I would never argue that the premise of vaccinations don't work. The main problem is the amount of thimerisol or mercury in these vaccines and giving children 10 shots at the same time. It's not safe to put that high level of mercury in your body and can seriously fuck up your brain. Add to that the drug companies' and government willingness over the years to use the population (and especially our own soldiers) as human guinea pigs to test their shit without knowing the effects. Is it really a stretch for someone not to trust the government or drug companies to tell you what's best for you?
I would never argue that the premise of vaccinations don't work. The main problem is the amount of thimerisol or mercury in these vaccines and giving children 10 shots at the same time. It's not safe to put that high level of mercury in your body and can seriously fuck up your brain. Add to that the drug companies' and government willingness over the years to use the population (and especially our own soldiers) as human guinea pigs to test their shit without knowing the effects. Is it really a stretch for someone not to trust the government or drug companies to tell you what's best for you?
pawz and d2d are couple dumbfucks on the same intellectual level as Jenny McCarthy.
Go fuck yourselves and then DIAFF - or of measles, mumps or rubella, you fucking idiots. You're pathetic.
Does the medical evidence mean nothing to you? Opt out of vaccinations - and send your little typhoid Mary offspring to a leper colony offshore with all the rest of the dumbasses who believe in Jenny McCarthy rather than the studies that prove that vaccinations pose a minimal threat compared to a very real risk of not vaccinating.
For 10's of thousands of years, the life expectancy was 30 to 50 years old, you dumbasses. If you die at 35, we won't have to listen to your anti-vaccination bullshit and you won't breed any more dipshits.
I haven't been the beneficiary of your sweet-nothings since the old days of Unleashed. I'm waxing nostalgic ...
I always know I'm on to something the more I'm viciously attacked for it. So thanks for my validation.
"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." - Albert Einstein
As usual you're assuming a blanket statement on my part. Obviously I would be a Honda-esq retard if i choose to ignore the historical benefits of MMR or Polio vaccines. I'll take those.
But for the nouveau-vaccinations of the last 20-30 years, the verdict is out. Especially the yearly flu vaccine that is literally produced a year late - every year - and tends to induce a flu in the vaccinated anyway. But it gets pitched every year by profit motivated, hiding behind the guise of health.
Further df, as i recall, you have a special needs child. I don't recall the specifics, but do you see the causation as a random chance? How random is it when you consider birth defects are on an exponential rise over the same 20-30 year period? One MIT professor predicts that HALF of all children will be autistic by 2050. That's fucking nuts and I want some answers.
So what's the cause of the exponential rise? There are only a few variables that are consistent to the same time period, the advent of pharmaceuticals (pills and vaccines) and GMO food. On all fronts what we need is more information. In the interim, I'm willing to take my chances without these nouveau drugs and vaccinations.
If you still feel the need to castigate me as a pariah for being concerned about the long-term effects these foods and drugs, which are only being colored in-favor by special interests that profit by them, then I accept my lot.
At the end of the day, we need more information, by unbiased sources. But since the special profit-minded interests are the only ones willing to foot the bill for said data collection, I expect them to release said information as they see fit.
Speaking of fear getting in the way of reality....
Don't you think diagnosis has a large part in higher autism rates? Haven't you heard any commercials about diagnosing autism?? 30 years ago we just called the child FS. Now we are diagnosing and helping them.
Going from 1 in 2000 children in the 70s and 80s, to 1 in 68 children in 2010 is not merely a matter of diagnosis. it's exponential growth.
I would never argue that the premise of vaccinations don't work. The main problem is the amount of thimerisol or mercury in these vaccines and giving children 10 shots at the same time. It's not safe to put that high level of mercury in your body and can seriously fuck up your brain. Add to that the drug companies' and government willingness over the years to use the population (and especially our own soldiers) as human guinea pigs to test their shit without knowing the effects. Is it really a stretch for someone not to trust the government or drug companies to tell you what's best for you?
Only HondaFS thinks we should blindly follow. So there is that.
Let's come at it this way. Show me an increase in the use of vaccines that correlates to the increase in diagnosed autism, that shows causality.
Is that kind of like naming obamacare the 'Affordable' Care Act even though everyone's prices doubled? I should vote for it before I read it? I'd like to know who is really paying the bills of the 'doctors' behind that website. As usual, the devil is in the details.
The fact is, we just don't know enough yet about the unintended consequences of these various vaccinations. Remember just a few short years ago when an HPV vaccination was a "must-have" and rushed to "market"? And how did that turn out? And i think they now 'recommend' people get it by the time they are 10yo. WTF?!
This is just fucking crazy, rushing to judgement on fear-based thinking.
I find it amusing (sad, not funny haha) that an ultra-liberal like yourself is taking a position that supports immediate corporate profit over taking the time to make sure we have it right - for kids sake.
And I find it similarly amusing, that you think you know what's best for my body, my (future) kid's bodies - which you want to legislate - but you vote pro-choice on the other-side of the same premise.
In my mid-thirties, I don't even have half the vaccinations that are now suggested/required. I'm pretty sure I'll be OK.
Lest we forget the fact that for 10s of thousands of years the human species proliferated exponentially without any sort of modern medicine or vaccination.
This is your problem. This is d2d's problem. And apparently it's DJ's problem. It's not that your stupid. It's that you don't know how to think.
Why did you only put the last two paragraphs in bold? The whole post was FS.
The last two paragraphs best illustrate the point I was making. If I need help being outwitted by d2d I'll let you know. Until then, fuck off.
For 10's of thousands of years, the life expectancy was 30 to 50 years old, you dumbasses.
And then man became civilized and developed clean drinking water, and kept it separated from the sewage. Health improved. Life expectancy increased. Widespread vaccination use occurred far after this, and when most diseases were already generally rare and survivable amongst otherwise generally healthy people.
Gates isn't helping people with his vaccination crusade like he'd have you believe. Get them sustainable clean drinking water and functional waste management.
The first successful small pox vaccine was in the 18th century. Life expectancy has doubled in the last 150 years. I am not a math whiz but I think I see some overlap.
pawz and d2d are couple dumbfucks on the same intellectual level as Jenny McCarthy.
Go fuck yourselves and then DIAFF - or of measles, mumps or rubella, you fucking idiots. You're pathetic.
Does the medical evidence mean nothing to you? Opt out of vaccinations - and send your little typhoid Mary offspring to a leper colony offshore with all the rest of the dumbasses who believe in Jenny McCarthy rather than the studies that prove that vaccinations pose a minimal threat compared to a very real risk of not vaccinating.
For 10's of thousands of years, the life expectancy was 30 to 50 years old, you dumbasses. If you die at 35, we won't have to listen to your anti-vaccination bullshit and you won't breed any more dipshits.
I haven't been the beneficiary of your sweet-nothings since the old days of Unleashed. I'm waxing nostalgic ...
I always know I'm on to something the more I'm viciously attacked for it. So thanks for my validation.
"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." - Albert Einstein
As usual you're assuming a blanket statement on my part. Obviously I would be a Honda-esq retard if i choose to ignore the historical benefits of MMR or Polio vaccines. I'll take those.
But for the nouveau-vaccinations of the last 20-30 years, the verdict is out. Especially the yearly flu vaccine that is literally produced a year late - every year - and tends to induce a flu in the vaccinated anyway. But it gets pitched every year by profit motivated, hiding behind the guise of health.
Further df, as i recall, you have a special needs child. I don't recall the specifics, but do you see the causation as a random chance? How random is it when you consider birth defects are on an exponential rise over the same 20-30 year period? One MIT professor predicts that HALF of all children will be autistic by 2050. That's fucking nuts and I want some answers.
So what's the cause of the exponential rise? There are only a few variables that are consistent to the same time period, the advent of pharmaceuticals (pills and vaccines) and GMO food. On all fronts what we need is more information. In the interim, I'm willing to take my chances without these nouveau drugs and vaccinations.
If you still feel the need to castigate me as a pariah for being concerned about the long-term effects these foods and drugs, which are only being colored in-favor by special interests that profit by them, then I accept my lot.
At the end of the day, we need more information, by unbiased sources. But since the special profit-minded interests are the only ones willing to foot the bill for said data collection, I expect them to release said information as they see fit.
Speaking of fear getting in the way of reality....
Don't you think diagnosis has a large part in higher autism rates? Haven't you heard any commercials about diagnosing autism?? 30 years ago we just called the child FS. Now we are diagnosing and helping them.
Going from 1 in 2000 children in the 70s and 80s, to 1 in 68 children in 2010 is not merely a matter of diagnosis. it's exponential growth.
I would never argue that the premise of vaccinations don't work. The main problem is the amount of thimerisol or mercury in these vaccines and giving children 10 shots at the same time. It's not safe to put that high level of mercury in your body and can seriously fuck up your brain. Add to that the drug companies' and government willingness over the years to use the population (and especially our own soldiers) as human guinea pigs to test their shit without knowing the effects. Is it really a stretch for someone not to trust the government or drug companies to tell you what's best for you?
Only HondaFS thinks we should blindly follow. So there is that.
Let's come at it this way. Show me an increase in the use of vaccines that correlates to the increase in diagnosed autism, that shows causality.
As I've stated, the current evidence is circumstantial. The problem is those with the means to study and compile hard data have a profit motive to maintain the status quo.
We need more, unbiased data. As of now, we are nowhere close to that.
pawz and d2d are couple dumbfucks on the same intellectual level as Jenny McCarthy.
Go fuck yourselves and then DIAFF - or of measles, mumps or rubella, you fucking idiots. You're pathetic.
Does the medical evidence mean nothing to you? Opt out of vaccinations - and send your little typhoid Mary offspring to a leper colony offshore with all the rest of the dumbasses who believe in Jenny McCarthy rather than the studies that prove that vaccinations pose a minimal threat compared to a very real risk of not vaccinating.
For 10's of thousands of years, the life expectancy was 30 to 50 years old, you dumbasses. If you die at 35, we won't have to listen to your anti-vaccination bullshit and you won't breed any more dipshits.
I haven't been the beneficiary of your sweet-nothings since the old days of Unleashed. I'm waxing nostalgic ...
I always know I'm on to something the more I'm viciously attacked for it. So thanks for my validation.
"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." - Albert Einstein
As usual you're assuming a blanket statement on my part. Obviously I would be a Honda-esq retard if i choose to ignore the historical benefits of MMR or Polio vaccines. I'll take those.
But for the nouveau-vaccinations of the last 20-30 years, the verdict is out. Especially the yearly flu vaccine that is literally produced a year late - every year - and tends to induce a flu in the vaccinated anyway. But it gets pitched every year by profit motivated, hiding behind the guise of health.
Further df, as i recall, you have a special needs child. I don't recall the specifics, but do you see the causation as a random chance? How random is it when you consider birth defects are on an exponential rise over the same 20-30 year period? One MIT professor predicts that HALF of all children will be autistic by 2050. That's fucking nuts and I want some answers.
So what's the cause of the exponential rise? There are only a few variables that are consistent to the same time period, the advent of pharmaceuticals (pills and vaccines) and GMO food. On all fronts what we need is more information. In the interim, I'm willing to take my chances without these nouveau drugs and vaccinations.
If you still feel the need to castigate me as a pariah for being concerned about the long-term effects these foods and drugs, which are only being colored in-favor by special interests that profit by them, then I accept my lot.
At the end of the day, we need more information, by unbiased sources. But since the special profit-minded interests are the only ones willing to foot the bill for said data collection, I expect them to release said information as they see fit.
Speaking of fear getting in the way of reality....
Don't you think diagnosis has a large part in higher autism rates? Haven't you heard any commercials about diagnosing autism?? 30 years ago we just called the child FS. Now we are diagnosing and helping them.
Going from 1 in 2000 children in the 70s and 80s, to 1 in 68 children in 2010 is not merely a matter of diagnosis. it's exponential growth.
I don't know much about all this, and don't have kids yet, but there seems to be a lack of causation here.
I would imagine the children of tomorrow are going retarded at an exponential clip because of all the chemicals surrounding us in our every day products and foods.
We place a laptop on our nuts while pressing our forehead against a microwave waiting for a chemically flavored hot pocket and then wonder why our seed is producing a bunch of corky's.
For 10's of thousands of years, the life expectancy was 30 to 50 years old, you dumbasses.
And then man became civilized and developed clean drinking water, and kept it separated from the sewage. Health improved. Life expectancy increased. Widespread vaccination use occurred far after this, and when most diseases were already generally rare and survivable amongst otherwise generally healthy people.
Gates isn't helping people with his vaccination crusade like he'd have you believe. Get them sustainable clean drinking water and functional waste management.
The first successful small pox vaccine was in the 18th century. Life expectancy has doubled in the last 150 years. I am not a math whiz but I think I see some overlap.
150 years ago puts us circa the Civil War. It was discovered during the Civil War that the best way to prevent infection was by washing hands before surgery. This data set is congruent with life expectancy doubling and the veracity of @Blackie 's poont.
I don't know much about all this, and don't have kids yet, but there seems to be a lack of causation here.
I would imagine the children of tomorrow are going retarded at an exponential clip because of all the chemicals surrounding us in our every day products and foods.
We place a laptop on our nuts while pressing our forehead against a microwave waiting for a chemically flavored hot pocket and then wonder why our seed is producing a bunch of corky's.
I'm all for lol'ing at what you said, but ma' works really hard to make those hot pockets and bring them downstairs for me. I won't tell her you said that. It doesn't taste like chemicals to me, ma'.
pawz and d2d are couple dumbfucks on the same intellectual level as Jenny McCarthy.
Go fuck yourselves and then DIAFF - or of measles, mumps or rubella, you fucking idiots. You're pathetic.
Does the medical evidence mean nothing to you? Opt out of vaccinations - and send your little typhoid Mary offspring to a leper colony offshore with all the rest of the dumbasses who believe in Jenny McCarthy rather than the studies that prove that vaccinations pose a minimal threat compared to a very real risk of not vaccinating.
For 10's of thousands of years, the life expectancy was 30 to 50 years old, you dumbasses. If you die at 35, we won't have to listen to your anti-vaccination bullshit and you won't breed any more dipshits.
I haven't been the beneficiary of your sweet-nothings since the old days of Unleashed. I'm waxing nostalgic ...
I always know I'm on to something the more I'm viciously attacked for it. So thanks for my validation.
"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." - Albert Einstein
As usual you're assuming a blanket statement on my part. Obviously I would be a Honda-esq retard if i choose to ignore the historical benefits of MMR or Polio vaccines. I'll take those.
But for the nouveau-vaccinations of the last 20-30 years, the verdict is out. Especially the yearly flu vaccine that is literally produced a year late - every year - and tends to induce a flu in the vaccinated anyway. But it gets pitched every year by profit motivated, hiding behind the guise of health.
Further df, as i recall, you have a special needs child. I don't recall the specifics, but do you see the causation as a random chance? How random is it when you consider birth defects are on an exponential rise over the same 20-30 year period? One MIT professor predicts that HALF of all children will be autistic by 2050. That's fucking nuts and I want some answers.
So what's the cause of the exponential rise? There are only a few variables that are consistent to the same time period, the advent of pharmaceuticals (pills and vaccines) and GMO food. On all fronts what we need is more information. In the interim, I'm willing to take my chances without these nouveau drugs and vaccinations.
If you still feel the need to castigate me as a pariah for being concerned about the long-term effects these foods and drugs, which are only being colored in-favor by special interests that profit by them, then I accept my lot.
At the end of the day, we need more information, by unbiased sources. But since the special profit-minded interests are the only ones willing to foot the bill for said data collection, I expect them to release said information as they see fit.
Speaking of fear getting in the way of reality....
Don't you think diagnosis has a large part in higher autism rates? Haven't you heard any commercials about diagnosing autism?? 30 years ago we just called the child FS. Now we are diagnosing and helping them.
Going from 1 in 2000 children in the 70s and 80s, to 1 in 68 children in 2010 is not merely a matter of diagnosis. it's exponential growth.
Great, then show me we have 68 times, or even exponential rates, of vaccinated children from the 80s.
You are trying to say my head hurts because I dropped a hammer on my toe.
Huh? I really don't think you are following the conversation cogently.
Please run along and let the adults talk.
Wow really? You are trying to link causality between vaccinations and autism. Don't you think if there was causality, autism would increase at the same rate that we are increasing vaccinations? Or somewhat close to it?
Here, let me type this a little slower so you can understand. You state autism is increasing exponentially. But have vaccinations changed drastically since the 70s/80s?
Reality is, just like the article you posted, and my metaphor, the cause is probably multiple things and we don't know the cause yet. So to create some conspiracy theory that drug manufacturers are trying to hide the link between vaccinations and autism is FS.
Is that kind of like naming obamacare the 'Affordable' Care Act even though everyone's prices doubled? I should vote for it before I read it? I'd like to know who is really paying the bills of the 'doctors' behind that website. As usual, the devil is in the details.
The fact is, we just don't know enough yet about the unintended consequences of these various vaccinations. Remember just a few short years ago when an HPV vaccination was a "must-have" and rushed to "market"? And how did that turn out? And i think they now 'recommend' people get it by the time they are 10yo. WTF?!
This is just fucking crazy, rushing to judgement on fear-based thinking.
I find it amusing (sad, not funny haha) that an ultra-liberal like yourself is taking a position that supports immediate corporate profit over taking the time to make sure we have it right - for kids sake.
And I find it similarly amusing, that you think you know what's best for my body, my (future) kid's bodies - which you want to legislate - but you vote pro-choice on the other-side of the same premise.
In my mid-thirties, I don't even have half the vaccinations that are now suggested/required. I'm pretty sure I'll be OK.
Lest we forget the fact that for 10s of thousands of years the human species proliferated exponentially without any sort of modern medicine or vaccination.
This is your problem. This is d2d's problem. And apparently it's DJ's problem. It's not that your stupid. It's that you don't know how to think.
pawz and d2d are couple dumbfucks on the same intellectual level as Jenny McCarthy.
Go fuck yourselves and then DIAFF - or of measles, mumps or rubella, you fucking idiots. You're pathetic.
Does the medical evidence mean nothing to you? Opt out of vaccinations - and send your little typhoid Mary offspring to a leper colony offshore with all the rest of the dumbasses who believe in Jenny McCarthy rather than the studies that prove that vaccinations pose a minimal threat compared to a very real risk of not vaccinating.
For 10's of thousands of years, the life expectancy was 30 to 50 years old, you dumbasses. If you die at 35, we won't have to listen to your anti-vaccination bullshit and you won't breed any more dipshits.
There's a vaccine for typhoid? So that's why you eat shit?
I would never argue that the premise of vaccinations don't work. The main problem is the amount of thimerisol or mercury in these vaccines and giving children 10 shots at the same time. It's not safe to put that high level of mercury in your body and can seriously fuck up your brain. Add to that the drug companies' and government willingness over the years to use the population (and especially our own soldiers) as human guinea pigs to test their shit without knowing the effects. Is it really a stretch for someone not to trust the government or drug companies to tell you what's best for you?
Only HondaFS thinks we should blindly follow. So there is that.
pawz and d2d are couple dumbfucks on the same intellectual level as Jenny McCarthy.
Go fuck yourselves and then DIAFF - or of measles, mumps or rubella, you fucking idiots. You're pathetic.
Does the medical evidence mean nothing to you? Opt out of vaccinations - and send your little typhoid Mary offspring to a leper colony offshore with all the rest of the dumbasses who believe in Jenny McCarthy rather than the studies that prove that vaccinations pose a minimal threat compared to a very real risk of not vaccinating.
For 10's of thousands of years, the life expectancy was 30 to 50 years old, you dumbasses. If you die at 35, we won't have to listen to your anti-vaccination bullshit and you won't breed any more dipshits.
I haven't been the beneficiary of your sweet-nothings since the old days of Unleashed. I'm waxing nostalgic ...
I always know I'm on to something the more I'm viciously attacked for it. So thanks for my validation.
"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." - Albert Einstein
As usual you're assuming a blanket statement on my part. Obviously I would be a Honda-esq retard if i choose to ignore the historical benefits of MMR or Polio vaccines. I'll take those.
But for the nouveau-vaccinations of the last 20-30 years, the verdict is out. Especially the yearly flu vaccine that is literally produced a year late - every year - and tends to induce a flu in the vaccinated anyway. But it gets pitched every year by profit motivated, hiding behind the guise of health.
Further df, as i recall, you have a special needs child. I don't recall the specifics, but do you see the causation as a random chance? How random is it when you consider birth defects are on an exponential rise over the same 20-30 year period? One MIT professor predicts that HALF of all children will be autistic by 2050. That's fucking nuts and I want some answers.
So what's the cause of the exponential rise? There are only a few variables that are consistent to the same time period, the advent of pharmaceuticals (pills and vaccines) and GMO food. On all fronts what we need is more information. In the interim, I'm willing to take my chances without these nouveau drugs and vaccinations.
If you still feel the need to castigate me as a pariah for being concerned about the long-term effects these foods and drugs, which are only being colored in-favor by special interests that profit by them, then I accept my lot.
At the end of the day, we need more information, by unbiased sources. But since the special profit-minded interests are the only ones willing to foot the bill for said data collection, I expect them to release said information as they see fit.
Speaking of fear getting in the way of reality....
Don't you think diagnosis has a large part in higher autism rates? Haven't you heard any commercials about diagnosing autism?? 30 years ago we just called the child FS. Now we are diagnosing and helping them.
Going from 1 in 2000 children in the 70s and 80s, to 1 in 68 children in 2010 is not merely a matter of diagnosis. it's exponential growth.
Great, then show me we have 68 times, or even exponential rates, of vaccinated children from the 80s.
You are trying to say my head hurts because I dropped a hammer on my toe.
Huh? I really don't think you are following the conversation cogently.
Please run along and let the adults talk.
Wow really? You are trying to link causality between vaccinations and autism. Don't you think if there was causality, autism would increase at the same rate that we are increasing vaccinations? Or somewhat close to it?
Here, let me type this a little slower so you can understand. You state autism is increasing exponentially. But have vaccinations changed drastically since the 70s/80s?
Reality is, just like the article you posted, and my metaphor, the cause is probably multiple things and we don't know the cause yet. So to create some conspiracy theory that drug manufacturers are trying to hide the link between vaccinations and autism is FS.
Yeah, a drug or pharmaceutical company would have no reason whatsoever to proactively limit it's liability. /sarcasm
If you think pumping an infant full of mercury or aluminum is a good idea, or at the very least doesn't have the potential for serious, harmful side-effects, kindly go play on the interstate.
I've said the cause of autism and other birth defects may have both: multiple reasons for the cause; and not enough information to clearly delineate a cause. You still clearly aren't following along, or processing the logic with those caveats.
While you play checkers, the rest of us are playing chess.
While the diagnostic rate has increased rapidly as of late (nobody should disagree) the rules and symptoms defining autism have been evolving and more inclusive as well.
So how does one compare the changing rates of a disease who's definition evolves to include behaviors not identified previously? No inference can be made (with any precision) on a dataset who's criteria changes by the decade. Comparing autism rates to 30 years ago is worthless when "autism" wasn't defined the same in 1985.....
TL:DR - The datset pawz and APAG are arguing here is fucked. Period. Also, I know where the dumb fucks hang out who keep bringing whooping cough to my youngest's elementary....
It's time to solve this debate. I am going to the doctor tomorrow and asking that 20 random vaccinations be injected directly into my dick. I'll report back with the results.
For 10's of thousands of years, the life expectancy was 30 to 50 years old, you dumbasses.
And then man became civilized and developed clean drinking water, and kept it separated from the sewage. Health improved. Life expectancy increased. Widespread vaccination use occurred far after this, and when most diseases were already generally rare and survivable amongst otherwise generally healthy people.
Gates isn't helping people with his vaccination crusade like he'd have you believe. Get them sustainable clean drinking water and functional waste management.
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webmd.com/brain/autism/searching-for-answers/autism-rise
cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/data.html
You are trying to say my head hurts because I dropped a hammer on my toe.
We need more, unbiased data. As of now, we are nowhere close to that.
I choose to error on the side of caution.
Huh? I really don't think you are following the conversation cogently.
Please run along and let the adults talk.
I would imagine the children of tomorrow are going retarded at an exponential clip because of all the chemicals surrounding us in our every day products and foods.
We place a laptop on our nuts while pressing our forehead against a microwave waiting for a chemically flavored hot pocket and then wonder why our seed is producing a bunch of corky's.
150 years ago puts us circa the Civil War. It was discovered during the Civil War that the best way to prevent infection was by washing hands before surgery. This data set is congruent with life expectancy doubling and the veracity of @Blackie 's poont.
Here, let me type this a little slower so you can understand. You state autism is increasing exponentially. But have vaccinations changed drastically since the 70s/80s?
Reality is, just like the article you posted, and my metaphor, the cause is probably multiple things and we don't know the cause yet. So to create some conspiracy theory that drug manufacturers are trying to hide the link between vaccinations and autism is FS.
If you think pumping an infant full of mercury or aluminum is a good idea, or at the very least doesn't have the potential for serious, harmful side-effects, kindly go play on the interstate.
I've said the cause of autism and other birth defects may have both: multiple reasons for the cause; and not enough information to clearly delineate a cause. You still clearly aren't following along, or processing the logic with those caveats.
While you play checkers, the rest of us are playing chess.
Hope this helps.
So how does one compare the changing rates of a disease who's definition evolves to include behaviors not identified previously? No inference can be made (with any precision) on a dataset who's criteria changes by the decade. Comparing autism rates to 30 years ago is worthless when "autism" wasn't defined the same in 1985.....
TL:DR - The datset pawz and APAG are arguing here is fucked. Period. Also, I know where the dumb fucks hang out who keep bringing whooping cough to my youngest's elementary....
Poop machine on the way