Military Morale Hits Alltime Low Under Obama.
USA TODAY:
Army morale low despite 6-year, $287M optimism programusatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/04/16/army-survey-morale/24897455/
"More than half of some 770,000 soldiers are pessimistic about their future in the military and nearly as many are unhappy in their jobs, despite a six-year, $287 million campaign to make troops more optimistic and resilient, findings obtained by USA TODAY show.
Twelve months of data through early 2015 show that 403,564 soldiers, or 52%, scored badly in the area of optimism, agreeing with statements such as "I rarely count on good things happening to me." Forty-eight percent have little satisfaction in or commitment to their jobs."
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I care.
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Nobody wants to talk about the reasons people in the military are unhappy of course. It would be uncomfortable to hear that the all volunteer force disagrees strongly with many of the feel good politically motivated decisions of the last 5 years.
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Why do you leave Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter, and Nixon out of this?Swaye said:Nobody wants to talk about the reasons people in the military are unhappy of course. It would be uncomfortable to hear that the all volunteer force disagrees strongly with many of the feel good politically motivated decisions of the last 40 years.
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Almost every decision GWB made for the military was wrong. The one thing he got right was hiring Robert Gates as SecDef. About the only military decision Obama got right was keeping Gates around. Panetta and Hagel have been terrible.
Frankly, I view both sides at fault for the clusterfuck that is happening right now in the military. The sequester is what is killing morale. People have been busting their asses for 12 years, and now are getting pink slips because Congress and the President can't get their shit together and devise a reasonable military budget.
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Obama has replaced the chain of command getting his own guys in there.
If Obama wanted to keep soldiers in after 12 years and let them retire after 20+ years, he would do that. He chose to go with free agency rather than resigning veterans.
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Obama just needs 5 more years to get his own guys in there.sarktastic said:Obama has replaced the chain of command getting his own guys in there.
If Obama wanted to keep soldiers in after 12 years and let them retire after 20+ years, he would do that. He chose to go with free agency rather than resigning veterans. -
I can't wait for the first openly gay Chief of Staff...2001400ex said:
Obama just needs 5 more years to get his own guys in there.sarktastic said:Obama has replaced the chain of command getting his own guys in there.
If Obama wanted to keep soldiers in after 12 years and let them retire after 20+ years, he would do that. He chose to go with free agency rather than resigning veterans.
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Because Obama is the CIC2001400ex said:
Why do you leave Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter, and Nixon out of this?Swaye said:Nobody wants to talk about the reasons people in the military are unhappy of course. It would be uncomfortable to hear that the all volunteer force disagrees strongly with many of the feel good politically motivated decisions of the last 40 years.
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The top ten reasons for bad morale are the same as they always have been, bad leadership. It doesn't matter if it's a company, a football team, or an infantry Regiment.sarktastic said:Obama has replaced the chain of command getting his own guys in there.
If Obama wanted to keep soldiers in after 12 years and let them retire after 20+ years, he would do that. He chose to go with free agency rather than resigning veterans.
Compare Don James to Tyrone Willingham. Compare Patton to the losers Obama hired. Think about your own work situation... working for Derek or Kim and Fatters. -
Maybe the young soldiers just don't fully appreciate the comportment lessons from Obama's train of command?
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Jake Almighty, he's six+ years into his administration. Doog POTFD.2001400ex said:
Why do you leave Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter, and Nixon out of this?Swaye said:Nobody wants to talk about the reasons people in the military are unhappy of course. It would be uncomfortable to hear that the all volunteer force disagrees strongly with many of the feel good politically motivated decisions of the last 40 years.
RN won the Rose Bowel, Obama cratered military morale.
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dnc said:
Jake Almighty, he's six+ years into his administration. Doog POTFD.2001400ex said:
Why do you leave Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter, and Nixon out of this?Swaye said:Nobody wants to talk about the reasons people in the military are unhappy of course. It would be uncomfortable to hear that the all volunteer force disagrees strongly with many of the feel good politically motivated decisions of the last 40 years.
RN won the Rose Bowel, Obama cratered military morale.
WIW.Perfect. You're on Honda Stupidity Patrol. Thanks for volunteering.
BTW, do you think it has anything to do with the uniforms?
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So they had a higher morale when we started an unjust war in Iraq and during Vietnam? And I'm suppose to take their opinions seriously, why exactly?
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allpurpleallgold said:
So they had a higher morale when we started an unjust war in Iraq and during Vietnam? And I'm suppose to take their opinions seriously, why exactly?
I don't give a damn what you do.
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It's a terrible time to be an American
Interest rates are down
gas prices are down
401K's are up
Housing prices are up
Horrible. I don't know I'm gonna make it through....guess I will just go back to the garage (am in middle of AR build) whole i wait for our new house in Orchards to get built -
None of the military guys I know had a problem with the war in Iraq when it started. Hell, Hillary didn't even have a problem with the war in Iraq when it started.allpurpleallgold said:So they had a higher morale when we started an unjust war in Iraq and during Vietnam? And I'm suppose to take their opinions seriously, why exactly?
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Sounds like America is a country of those who have and those who are going to have.HuskyJW said:It's a terrible time to be an American
Interest rates are down
gas prices are down
401K's are up
Housing prices are up
Horrible. I don't know I'm gonna make it through....guess I will just go back to the garage (am in middle of AR build) whole i wait for our new house in Orchards to get built
APAG? True? -
Wtf is an optimism program?
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... Who got the contract... And who in Congress are they related to?SteveInShelton said:Wtf is an optimism program?
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An optimistic program with a happy ending?SteveInShelton said:Wtf is an optimism program?
