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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,573
    So 2016 is going to be special?
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    So 2016 is going to be special?

    Probably not.

    But the talent is there for the next HC to get a jump start on rebuilding the program.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    edited March 2015
    TheGlove said:

    If you were a puget sound area blue chipper, why would you choose UW?

    academis
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,573
    edited March 2015

    So 2016 is going to be special?

    Probably not.

    But the talent is there for the next HC to get a jump start on rebuilding the program.
    Hopefully you get the right coach.
  • huskyhooligan
    huskyhooligan Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,089 Swaye's Wigwam
    Buddy and I discussed this at the game last night. Dorsey is a shooter and I like him long term. Winters seems to just be missing something on his shot.

    I digress. Both agreed Romar took it easy, and failed in recruiting. Part of the problem, he keeps recruiting Joel Smith. First, I loved Joel Smith pre-injury, he had some amazing dunks and seemed to hit the open three. Buuuuuut that was about it. When asked to put the ball on the floor he struggled and couldn't create his own shot. This team reflects Joel Smith recruiting ... minus some athleticism.

    The other thing Romar hasn't done is recruit So Cal, at all. Holiday, Grant, Jones, all great LA talent who played rolls and offered different looks. In the Puget Sound lean years, Romar failed to get anything out of LA.
  • HuskyInAZ
    HuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,733
    Dorsey and Winters would not start or play significant minutes on any team in the P12.

    This clusterfuck of the past 5+ years is 100% on Romar. Door. Ass. Out.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,295
    Dorsey can stroke the ball ... and has a future as a role player.

    That being said, on a well coached, well organized, and well recruited team, Dorsey would RS and then be a guy that in his 3rd, 4th, and 5th year in the program would be a valuable rotational player. As it is, he's more or less going to go into the offseason with absolutely zero confidence playing on a team that has quit with terrible habits.
  • MakaDawg
    MakaDawg Member Posts: 492

    Historically WA state, specifically the Seattle/Tacoma area, has been a good source of talent. Not as strong as Cali, NYC, etc. But good.

    I mentioned in a previous thread that since Tony Wroten, there have only been two great recruits to come out of the state of WA: Zach LaVine and Shaqquan Aaron.

    LaVine is already in the NBA, and Aaron is a frosh at Louisville. Romar failed to get them. It sucks. To make it worse, there were not any decent role players to offer scholarships to that could help the roster. None. Aaron's two Beach teammates had academic issues, which is why Crisp is in prep school now and delayed his enrollment. Dorsey was the next best local guy. LaVine's class was even more lackluster. The next best player, DJ Fenner, went to Nevada.

    A lot has been made of the recruiting class coming next fall, and for good reason. It's a top 10 class nationally. The improvement in the local talent pool is a big reason why. Three of those guys are from the Seattle area. Romar not only got all the best guys to stay home, there were actually multiple guys worth getting this year.

    Why do I care? Because the best teams under Romar have always been led by a core of local guys: B-Roy, Nate, Conroy. Brockman, IT, Overton. The loss of identity is Romar's fault. I think it also has a lot to do with the guys on the roster. We have had a total of one WA scholarship player on the roster since Wroten and Gaddy left.

    2016 looks almost as promising as 2015. It lacks top end star power like Murray, but actually has more depth than this year's class.

    The 2016 recruits from WA that I want to see in purple and gold:

    -JaQuori McLaughlin, PG Gig Harbor: verbally committed already. Good shooter, good handles with size and athleticism.

    -Keith Smith, SF Rainier Beach: the 2nd best player on Beach. Verbally committed to San Diego St. Knee injury currently has him sidelined. If he is healthy, he is the top player in the state for 2016. Does everything well.

    -Alphonso Anderson, PF Garfield: a bit short for a college post player, but Anderson could be the next Jamaal Williams. Very strong and efficient in the post.

    -Isiah Brown, PG Lakeside: Seattle Times all state team. Led Metro league in scoring. Has been a UW offer since 8th grade.

    -Steven Beo, PG Richland: not as highly rated, but a pure shooter with NBA range. The kind of role player UW has not had since Appleby, Turner, or Wilcox. Has a UW offer.

    2017 is too early to call, but Garfield and Beach both have some great underclassmen.

    No matter who coaches hoops at UW next year and beyond, the local talent is there to build another core of local stars. UW will have four spots from graduation next year, and possibly as many as six scholarships depending on NWG and Murray's NBA plans. Lock up the local talent pool and add in some Cali guys (sound familiar?) and this shit might get fixed.

    How good is Jashaun Agosto?

    I seem to remember there being some hype around the kid.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    MakaDawg said:

    Historically WA state, specifically the Seattle/Tacoma area, has been a good source of talent. Not as strong as Cali, NYC, etc. But good.

    I mentioned in a previous thread that since Tony Wroten, there have only been two great recruits to come out of the state of WA: Zach LaVine and Shaqquan Aaron.

    LaVine is already in the NBA, and Aaron is a frosh at Louisville. Romar failed to get them. It sucks. To make it worse, there were not any decent role players to offer scholarships to that could help the roster. None. Aaron's two Beach teammates had academic issues, which is why Crisp is in prep school now and delayed his enrollment. Dorsey was the next best local guy. LaVine's class was even more lackluster. The next best player, DJ Fenner, went to Nevada.

    A lot has been made of the recruiting class coming next fall, and for good reason. It's a top 10 class nationally. The improvement in the local talent pool is a big reason why. Three of those guys are from the Seattle area. Romar not only got all the best guys to stay home, there were actually multiple guys worth getting this year.

    Why do I care? Because the best teams under Romar have always been led by a core of local guys: B-Roy, Nate, Conroy. Brockman, IT, Overton. The loss of identity is Romar's fault. I think it also has a lot to do with the guys on the roster. We have had a total of one WA scholarship player on the roster since Wroten and Gaddy left.

    2016 looks almost as promising as 2015. It lacks top end star power like Murray, but actually has more depth than this year's class.

    The 2016 recruits from WA that I want to see in purple and gold:

    -JaQuori McLaughlin, PG Gig Harbor: verbally committed already. Good shooter, good handles with size and athleticism.

    -Keith Smith, SF Rainier Beach: the 2nd best player on Beach. Verbally committed to San Diego St. Knee injury currently has him sidelined. If he is healthy, he is the top player in the state for 2016. Does everything well.

    -Alphonso Anderson, PF Garfield: a bit short for a college post player, but Anderson could be the next Jamaal Williams. Very strong and efficient in the post.

    -Isiah Brown, PG Lakeside: Seattle Times all state team. Led Metro league in scoring. Has been a UW offer since 8th grade.

    -Steven Beo, PG Richland: not as highly rated, but a pure shooter with NBA range. The kind of role player UW has not had since Appleby, Turner, or Wilcox. Has a UW offer.

    2017 is too early to call, but Garfield and Beach both have some great underclassmen.

    No matter who coaches hoops at UW next year and beyond, the local talent is there to build another core of local stars. UW will have four spots from graduation next year, and possibly as many as six scholarships depending on NWG and Murray's NBA plans. Lock up the local talent pool and add in some Cali guys (sound familiar?) and this shit might get fixed.

    How good is Jashaun Agosto?

    I seem to remember there being some hype around the kid.
    Not a D-1 player.

    Too short. Doesn't have game like IT and Nate.