2) yes those are facts the debt went up that much. But let's look at why. Part of it is from additional tax cuts and the stimulus package, we are about a trillion in spending there. The rest is from the wars (which is partially him for extending them for so long), reduced revenues from the recession, and increased welfare from the recession. The recession started a full year before he was elected. I dont stroke Obama, I just dont make up shit and pretend all of the $8 trillion is on Obama. That's just FS.
3) yes and those things you rip Bush on, carried over to Obama. So you remember losing 800k jobs a month? The TARP bailout? Or just expect Obama to fix that on day 1.
The funny part is watching videos of the same news sources blasting Obama got the debt and recession in 2009 and then blaming the recession in 2001 on Clinton. Even tho it started well into Bush's term. That's my point. You parrot right wing talking points.
1) *gurgle*.. *slurp*...*gurgle*. I think we've already shown you have no clue how to understand even the most basic of news sources including govt data (O'Reilly is now = to govt data...you should tell him and make his ego even bigger)...
2) So you (finally) agree its reality, but now its just not 'fair'. How liberal of you. He's the President...he can cancel/expand/add programs as he sees fit as he has in working with Congress (go look at the tab for Obamacare with the "taxes" that pay for it now being pushed out/repealed/etc...funny how your 501c fails to mention that...and its only going to climb). In addition, the economy should be booming as was beaten through your weak talking points in a previous thread. It hasn't because of his policies, so govt revenues haven't grown like they should. *Gurgle* and *slurp* away as you keep apologizing for it and explaining it away...
3) Really? We are still sending one-time checks out to people? Effin moron. And Obama quadrupled down on the medicare drug benefit with that ACA, but its great for Obama and bad for Bush. And yes, its been 6 YEARS, yet we are still running half a trillion $ deficits a year. Lemming.
1) *gurgle*.. *slurp*...*gurgle*. I think we've already shown you have no clue how to understand even the most basic of news sources including govt data (O'Reilly is now = to govt data...you should tell him and make his ego even bigger)...
2) So you (finally) agree its reality, but now its just not 'fair'. How liberal of you. He's the President...he can cancel/expand/add programs as he sees fit as he has in working with Congress (go look at the tab for Obamacare with the "taxes" that pay for it now being pushed out/repealed/etc...funny how your 501c fails to mention that...and its only going to climb). In addition, the economy should be booming as was beaten through your weak talking points in a previous thread. It hasn't because of his policies, so govt revenues haven't grown like they should. *Gurgle* and *slurp* away as you keep apologizing for it and explaining it away...
3) Really? We are still sending one-time checks out to people? Effin moron. And Obama quadrupled down on the medicare drug benefit with that ACA, but its great for Obama and bad for Bush. And yes, its been 6 YEARS, yet we are still running half a trillion $ deficits a year. Lemming.
Its truly is amazing you keep hitting reply...
8 years into Bush and we ran a $1.5 trillion deficit. What's your point? Even Romney said 2020 was the best case for a balanced budget.
It would be nice if you skipped backed into reality.
Through a bail-out...i.e. a one-time spending event. Obama institutionalized the spending. And Bush spent way too much...I'm not arguing he didn't. His debt is just half of what Obama's spent.
I've seen walls more enlightened then you. Keep *Gurgling*.
Through a bail-out...i.e. a one-time spending event. Obama institutionalized the spending. And Bush spent way too much...I'm not arguing he didn't. His debt is just half of what Obama's spent.
I've seen walls more enlightened then you. Keep *Gurgling*.
And Bush sending checks directly to people didn't institutionalize spending? At least Obama made people work for their money.
Through a bail-out...i.e. a one-time spending event. Obama institutionalized the spending. And Bush spent way too much...I'm not arguing he didn't. His debt is just half of what Obama's spent.
I've seen walls more enlightened then you. Keep *Gurgling*.
And Bush sending checks directly to people didn't institutionalize spending? At least Obama made people work for their money.
Every time I think we've hit rock bottom on your intelligence you prove it goes even lower with a gem like this...
Do you have a clue what you are talking about? The Economic Stimulus Act of 2008 was a one-time "tax rebate" that in essence was the IRS mailing a check out to everybody ONLY ONE TIME. Institutionalizing means growing government bureaucracy and permanent programs (i.e. years and years of spending). And I'm glad you think all the folks with Obama-phones are "working" for their free money.
Through a bail-out...i.e. a one-time spending event. Obama institutionalized the spending. And Bush spent way too much...I'm not arguing he didn't. His debt is just half of what Obama's spent.
I've seen walls more enlightened then you. Keep *Gurgling*.
And Bush sending checks directly to people didn't institutionalize spending? At least Obama made people work for their money.
Every time I think we've hit rock bottom on your intelligence you prove it goes even lower with a gem like this...
Do you have a clue what you are talking about? The Economic Stimulus Act of 2008 was a one-time "tax rebate" that in essence was the IRS mailing a check out to everybody ONLY ONE TIME. Institutionalizing means growing government bureaucracy and permanent programs (i.e. years and years of spending). And I'm glad you think all the folks with Obama-phones are "working" for their free money.
And even lower...although it appears you at least discovered Google.
Yeah, institutionalize spending is the same as mailing a one-time check (you know, the topic brought up which you ignored), or a tax cut with a gimmick ending date (although you don't seem to mind those when it relates to the ACA and gimmick far-off taxes that will never happen...).
And the spending on the Lifeline phones was something like $800 million in 2008. Its now $2.2 billion. Hence the name "Obamaphone". Hence the anger by some of being a perfectly good example of institutionalizing increased spending under Obama. Hence more pie in your face and yet another topic that went straight over your head.
You really aren't good at this...
I'm bored and have some other things pulling my time. So feel free to have the last post. I'm sure it will be another raging example of your exemplary intellect...
Obama will indeed go down as the worst president in modern history. Nice job with the veto on the Keystone Pipeline today. If you think that is a victory for the environment and public safety, you are very naive. I am a big fan of the environment, but also good quality blue collar jobs associated with the construction of a project of this size
On the other side, if you think the greasy Italian from NYC is a real or true conservative, you need to do some research. Let me know what you come up with
And even lower...although it appears you at least discovered Google.
Yeah, institutionalize spending is the same as mailing a one-time check (you know, the topic brought up which you ignored), or a tax cut with a gimmick ending date (although you don't seem to mind those when it relates to the ACA and gimmick far-off taxes that will never happen...).
And the spending on the Lifeline phones was something like $800 million in 2008. Its now $2.2 billion. Hence the name "Obamaphone". Hence the anger by some of being a perfectly good example of institutionalizing increased spending under Obama. Hence more pie in your face and yet another topic that went straight over your head.
You really aren't good at this...
I'm bored and have some other things pulling my time. So feel free to have the last post. I'm sure it will be another raging example of your exemplary intellect...
Except you clearly didn't read my post. Here's my point. There's no difference between Republicans and democrats.
But keep parroting conservative talking points, the crowd on this site sure digs it.
Is this a douchenozzle contest between Barack and Rudy?
Obama wins rather easily........................say 34-17?
Rudy's still 3 scores worth of douchenozzle, though, so it wouldn't be a bad idea for him to just stfu.
Overplay Barack to the left and he can't do shit. Homeboy can't cross over worth a damn and has no range on his J. Dude probably plays zone in pickup games too.
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2) yes those are facts the debt went up that much. But let's look at why. Part of it is from additional tax cuts and the stimulus package, we are about a trillion in spending there. The rest is from the wars (which is partially him for extending them for so long), reduced revenues from the recession, and increased welfare from the recession. The recession started a full year before he was elected. I dont stroke Obama, I just dont make up shit and pretend all of the $8 trillion is on Obama. That's just FS.
3) yes and those things you rip Bush on, carried over to Obama. So you remember losing 800k jobs a month? The TARP bailout? Or just expect Obama to fix that on day 1.
The funny part is watching videos of the same news sources blasting Obama got the debt and recession in 2009 and then blaming the recession in 2001 on Clinton. Even tho it started well into Bush's term. That's my point. You parrot right wing talking points.
2) So you (finally) agree its reality, but now its just not 'fair'. How liberal of you. He's the President...he can cancel/expand/add programs as he sees fit as he has in working with Congress (go look at the tab for Obamacare with the "taxes" that pay for it now being pushed out/repealed/etc...funny how your 501c fails to mention that...and its only going to climb). In addition, the economy should be booming as was beaten through your weak talking points in a previous thread. It hasn't because of his policies, so govt revenues haven't grown like they should. *Gurgle* and *slurp* away as you keep apologizing for it and explaining it away...
3) Really? We are still sending one-time checks out to people? Effin moron. And Obama quadrupled down on the medicare drug benefit with that ACA, but its great for Obama and bad for Bush. And yes, its been 6 YEARS, yet we are still running half a trillion $ deficits a year. Lemming.
Its truly is amazing you keep hitting reply...
It would be nice if you skipped backed into reality.
I've seen walls more enlightened then you. Keep *Gurgling*.
Do you have a clue what you are talking about? The Economic Stimulus Act of 2008 was a one-time "tax rebate" that in essence was the IRS mailing a check out to everybody ONLY ONE TIME. Institutionalizing means growing government bureaucracy and permanent programs (i.e. years and years of spending). And I'm glad you think all the folks with Obama-phones are "working" for their free money.
God I hope you aren't a UW grad...
http://m.sfgate.com/politics/article/Bush-signs-1-3-trillion-tax-cut-bill-300-600-2913184.php
Bush did that more than once.... And from 2001 to 2008, I think that qualifies as "years and years".
Dont you mean the Bush phone?
http://www.freegovernmentcellphones.net/faq/obama-phone
It's very clear from multiple sources that the free cell phone program started before Obama was elected.
I do chuckle when the person who calls others stupid has multiple factually incorrect statements.
Great job parroting Bill O'Reilly. You must be proud.
Obama wins rather easily........................say 34-17?
Rudy's still 3 scores worth of douchenozzle, though, so it wouldn't be a bad idea for him to just stfu.
Yeah, institutionalize spending is the same as mailing a one-time check (you know, the topic brought up which you ignored), or a tax cut with a gimmick ending date (although you don't seem to mind those when it relates to the ACA and gimmick far-off taxes that will never happen...).
And the spending on the Lifeline phones was something like $800 million in 2008. Its now $2.2 billion. Hence the name "Obamaphone". Hence the anger by some of being a perfectly good example of institutionalizing increased spending under Obama. Hence more pie in your face and yet another topic that went straight over your head.
You really aren't good at this...
I'm bored and have some other things pulling my time. So feel free to have the last post. I'm sure it will be another raging example of your exemplary intellect...
On the other side, if you think the greasy Italian from NYC is a real or true conservative, you need to do some research. Let me know what you come up with
But keep parroting conservative talking points, the crowd on this site sure digs it.
"Independents are split. Some 42 percent say Obama loves the U.S. but close to the same number, 38 percent, say he does not."
teaparty.org/poll-47-percent-think-obama-loves-america-85806/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=poll-47-percent-think-obama-loves-america