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Any chance Romar steps down
bananasnblondes
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He could preserve his legacy by admitting/ pretending that his heart's not in it anymore. Make an announcement that he will help pick out his successor and transition his players and recruits to the new coach. They might even name something at the arena after him or make him a statue.
Otherwise he gets fired and is Ernie Kent/Ben Howland/any other coach who had moderate success but was run out of town.
If I was Woodward I'd start putting this bug in his ear.
Otherwise he gets fired and is Ernie Kent/Ben Howland/any other coach who had moderate success but was run out of town.
If I was Woodward I'd start putting this bug in his ear.
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Now more than ever before
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Who do you go after if you're UW? As an Oregon fan, the one guy who scares the shit out of me if UW hires him (meaning he's the guy you should get and I can't believe USC blew him off) is Randy Bennett at St Marys.
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Tony Bennett, Few, and some of the coaches at hawt mid majors. I really have stopped following college bball since it's horrible so I don't know. Earn your salary Woodward.
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fuck thatFire_Marshall_Bill said:Tony Bennett, Few, and some of the coaches at hawt mid majors. I really have stopped following college bball since it's horrible so I don't know. Earn your salary Woodward.
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Few ain't coming to UW.
He's the classic pussy that loves being the big fish in a small pond.
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Don't worry. UW will never go after Randy Bennett. Too many recent "scandals" for the pussy town that is Seattle. Bennett cares more about winning than being a nice guy.ntxduck said:Who do you go after if you're UW? As an Oregon fan, the one guy who scares the shit out of me if UW hires him (meaning he's the guy you should get and I can't believe USC blew him off) is Randy Bennett at St Marys.
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There is only one condition where I could see Few taking a major conference job and that's if Gonzaga wins out this year and gets bounced early again in the tournament as a 1 seed. Few might finally realize that if he wants to coach in Final Fours it will have to be somewhere that doesn't play a WCC schedule.CheersWestDawg said:Few ain't coming to UW.
He's the classic pussy that loves being the big fish in a small pond.
It allows him to bump weenies with dipshits like Seth Davis and Andy Katz.
Another point is that the possibility of walking into the recruiting class UW has coming in (assuming the next coach can keep them in the boat) could be a pretty good bargaining chip to bring in a decent coach. -
This is a good poontbananasnblondes said:
There is only one condition where I could see Few taking a major conference job and that's if Gonzaga wins out this year and gets bounced early again in the tournament as a 1 seed. Few might finally realize that if he wants to coach in Final Fours it will have to be somewhere that doesn't play a WCC schedule.CheersWestDawg said:Few ain't coming to UW.
He's the classic pussy that loves being the big fish in a small pond.
It allows him to bump weenies with dipshits like Seth Davis and Andy Katz.
Another point is that the possibility of walking into the recruiting class UW has coming in (assuming the next coach can keep them in the boat) could be a pretty good bargaining chip to bring in a decent coach.
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If you all think Romar doesn't like Few, some of the boosters would likely light few on fire before actually ponying up money to bring him to UW. There is no chance in hell Few is coaching UW. Nor should any of us want Few.
I don't think any of us should really waste our time trying to figure out who to hire. I don't think anyone really knows how sought after a UW job will be post romar. I see a lot of potential in the program, there is money, and good support when the program isn't dead.
The recruits in the seattle area should attract someone decent to UW. The question is whether woody goes after an established guy or an up and coming coach. -
You people act like UW isn't a top notch job. If you get max resources to recruit, tons of local talent and around 2 million a year at a place lacking traditional power expectations, you want that job.
You fire Romar, UW immediately becomes the most sought after position on the west. Just because the results on the floor haven't shown it, everything is in place to be successful at UW. -
Totally agree with the formula, just wondering who actually out there would bite. Not a ton of West coast low end D1 guys to be excited about. so then are you looking at who else? 1st assistants?Doogles said:You people act like UW isn't a top notch job. If you get max resources to recruit, tons of local talent and around 2 million a year at a place lacking traditional power expectations, you want that job.
You fire Romar, UW immediately becomes the most sought after position on the west. Just because the results on the floor haven't shown it, everything is in place to be successful at UW.
I really am kinda trolling for some names b/c I don't know what would be realistic. -
I've been told by @MikeDamone (RIP) that this is as good as UW basketball will ever be.Doogles said:You people act like UW isn't a top notch job. If you get max resources to recruit, tons of local talent and around 2 million a year at a place lacking traditional power expectations, you want that job.
You fire Romar, UW immediately becomes the most sought after position on the west. Just because the results on the floor haven't shown it, everything is in place to be successful at UW. -
It's a stretch, but i've mentioned Brian Katz from Sac st before. He has them winning for the first time in PROGRAM history and that school has complete shit for resources. Literally can't hold the Big Sky tournament if they get first place because the Gym is smaller than some high schools.FreeChavez said:
Totally agree with the formula, just wondering who actually out there would bite. Not a ton of West coast low end D1 guys to be excited about. so then are you looking at who else? 1st assistants?Doogles said:You people act like UW isn't a top notch job. If you get max resources to recruit, tons of local talent and around 2 million a year at a place lacking traditional power expectations, you want that job.
You fire Romar, UW immediately becomes the most sought after position on the west. Just because the results on the floor haven't shown it, everything is in place to be successful at UW.
I really am kinda trolling for some names b/c I don't know what would be realistic.
The more important thing on Katz is he is from Howland's coaching tree, who has had Pac success.
Also Colorado made an obscure hire from Howland's tree in a guy named Tad Boyle. It's working out for them nicely at just 600k a year. He's a great coach. A winner is a winner and he is going to get poached eventually because NOBODY wins at Sac State and he is doing it.
Edit: UW could definitely get someone higher profile, i'm just throwing out names that haven't been thought about. I really think if Tad Boyle can turn Colorado around Katz has a good chance here. -
I've heard that none of you know how bad our programs infrastructure is per Butler Cabin
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IF Romar is fired, Woodward better make a big time hire.
We better not end up with some assistant coach from a big name school looking for his first HC gig. -
...or whoever is currently coaching the 4th/5th place team in the WCC that is traditionally in 7th/8th placeThomasFremont said:IF Romar is fired, Woodward better make a big time hire.
We better not end up with some assistant coach from a big name school looking for his first HC gig. -
Or what? We might miss the ncaa tourney? People need to stop with the drama of "we need to hire X, or else". Nobody has a clue how a new guy will do. Tinkle, and LarryK are recent examples of guys nobody expected to turn the page that quickly, while the bum at USC and alford(okay i expected that one) have been more than lackluster.ThomasFremont said:IF Romar is fired, Woodward better make a big time hire.
We better not end up with some assistant coach from a big name school looking for his first HC gig.
Either way, you can't go further until you try something new. Romar has shown what his ability is here and it's time we give someone else the keys. Even if UW is a good job, we're not going to get some crazy ass hire. Basketball isn't like that at all. Hell, UCLA got alford of all people. -
Dude, you need to calm down, take a long walk on the beach to get some perspective, and then maybe re-read my post.FreeChavez said:
Or what? We might miss the ncaa tourney? People need to stop with the drama of "we need to hire X, or else". Nobody has a clue how a new guy will do. Tinkle, and LarryK are recent examples of guys nobody expected to turn the page that quickly, while the bum at USC and alford(okay i expected that one) have been more than lackluster.ThomasFremont said:IF Romar is fired, Woodward better make a big time hire.
We better not end up with some assistant coach from a big name school looking for his first HC gig.
Either way, you can't go further until you try something new. Romar has shown what his ability is here and it's time we give someone else the keys. Even if UW is a good job, we're not going to get some crazy ass hire. Basketball isn't like that at all. Hell, UCLA got alford of all people.
It's an obvious shot at Sark...aka the type of hire I don't want Pool Boy to make.
Trying "anything" or "something" else besides Romar isn't good enough. Obviously "anything" can happen, but that's the type of hope based decision making that gets you Sark. My only hesitation firing Romar is that Pool Boy has to hire his replacement. His track record does not instill confidence (kept Ty year 4, Sark). If he hadn't lucked into Petersen, we'd have Nuss. Pool Boy is a major dumb fuck.
My list of realistic candidates:
-Gregg Marshall
-Fred Hoiberg
-Archie Miller
-Shaka Smart
UW is a more desirable job. Location and pay improvement. It's also a step up from mid-major to power conference coaching for all but Hoiberg.
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First, Pool Boy wasn't the AD when the decision to retain Tyrone was made. That was Todd Turner. So get your facts right on that one.ThomasFremont said:
Dude, you need to calm down, take a long walk on the beach to get some perspective, and then maybe re-read my post.FreeChavez said:
Or what? We might miss the ncaa tourney? People need to stop with the drama of "we need to hire X, or else". Nobody has a clue how a new guy will do. Tinkle, and LarryK are recent examples of guys nobody expected to turn the page that quickly, while the bum at USC and alford(okay i expected that one) have been more than lackluster.ThomasFremont said:IF Romar is fired, Woodward better make a big time hire.
We better not end up with some assistant coach from a big name school looking for his first HC gig.
Either way, you can't go further until you try something new. Romar has shown what his ability is here and it's time we give someone else the keys. Even if UW is a good job, we're not going to get some crazy ass hire. Basketball isn't like that at all. Hell, UCLA got alford of all people.
It's an obvious shot at Sark...aka the type of hire I don't want Pool Boy to make.
Trying "anything" or "something" else besides Romar isn't good enough. Obviously "anything" can happen, but that's the type of hope based decision making that gets you Sark. My only hesitation firing Romar is that Pool Boy has to hire his replacement. His track record does not instill confidence (kept Ty year 4, Sark). If he hadn't lucked into Petersen, we'd have Nuss. Pool Boy is a major dumb fuck.
My list of realistic candidates:
-Gregg Marshall
-Fred Hoiberg
-Archie Miller
-Shaka Smart
UW is a more desirable job. Location and pay improvement. It's also a step up from mid-major to power conference coaching for all but Hoiberg.
Second, I believe that you can look at a few hires that Pool Boy has made and see that he might know a bit of what he's doing. The baseball program has gone from the sewer to being pretty damn good under Meggs (trust me, I saw them when they suck playing against my brother - I'd seen HS travel teams in Texas with far better talent). The women's basketball program is going to the Dance this year and is definitely on the right track (Pepsi can speak better to that than I can). So it's not like Pool Boy has completely shit the bed.
Third, Hoiberg isn't a realistic candidate. Neither is Shaka Smart. Not sure how much Gregg Marshall is either - but there may be an opening there because I believe his in-laws live up on Whidbey. Archie Miller is definitely worth talking to. There's also plenty of outside the box options as well whether it be guys that nobody has thought about because they have a CONTRACT elsewhere or guys coming from the pro ranks like Mac10. -
He was still Emmert's Pool boy before he was the AD. HTH.Tequilla said:
First, Pool Boy wasn't the AD when the decision to retain Tyrone was made. That was Todd Turner. So get your facts right on that one.ThomasFremont said:
Dude, you need to calm down, take a long walk on the beach to get some perspective, and then maybe re-read my post.FreeChavez said:
Or what? We might miss the ncaa tourney? People need to stop with the drama of "we need to hire X, or else". Nobody has a clue how a new guy will do. Tinkle, and LarryK are recent examples of guys nobody expected to turn the page that quickly, while the bum at USC and alford(okay i expected that one) have been more than lackluster.ThomasFremont said:IF Romar is fired, Woodward better make a big time hire.
We better not end up with some assistant coach from a big name school looking for his first HC gig.
Either way, you can't go further until you try something new. Romar has shown what his ability is here and it's time we give someone else the keys. Even if UW is a good job, we're not going to get some crazy ass hire. Basketball isn't like that at all. Hell, UCLA got alford of all people.
It's an obvious shot at Sark...aka the type of hire I don't want Pool Boy to make.
Trying "anything" or "something" else besides Romar isn't good enough. Obviously "anything" can happen, but that's the type of hope based decision making that gets you Sark. My only hesitation firing Romar is that Pool Boy has to hire his replacement. His track record does not instill confidence (kept Ty year 4, Sark). If he hadn't lucked into Petersen, we'd have Nuss. Pool Boy is a major dumb fuck.
My list of realistic candidates:
-Gregg Marshall
-Fred Hoiberg
-Archie Miller
-Shaka Smart
UW is a more desirable job. Location and pay improvement. It's also a step up from mid-major to power conference coaching for all but Hoiberg.
Second, I believe that you can look at a few hires that Pool Boy has made and see that he might know a bit of what he's doing. The baseball program has gone from the sewer to being pretty damn good under Meggs (trust me, I saw them when they suck playing against my brother - I'd seen HS travel teams in Texas with far better talent). The women's basketball program is going to the Dance this year and is definitely on the right track (Pepsi can speak better to that than I can). So it's not like Pool Boy has completely shit the bed.
Third, Hoiberg isn't a realistic candidate. Neither is Shaka Smart. Not sure how much Gregg Marshall is either - but there may be an opening there because I believe his in-laws live up on Whidbey. Archie Miller is definitely worth talking to. There's also plenty of outside the box options as well whether it be guys that nobody has thought about because they have a CONTRACT elsewhere or guys coming from the pro ranks like Mac10.
I'll admit Hoiberg is unlikely, since he is coaching his alma mater.
Put you make the call and offer a real contract anyway.
And NOGAF about the HC of the women's basketball team or the baseball team. Pool Boy's tenure as AD has been an abortion for the only two revenue sports. -
If were delving into sports no one cares about to grade pool boy, then he just lost the best women's volleyball coach in the country to Notre Dame.Tequilla said:
First, Pool Boy wasn't the AD when the decision to retain Tyrone was made. That was Todd Turner. So get your facts right on that one.ThomasFremont said:
Dude, you need to calm down, take a long walk on the beach to get some perspective, and then maybe re-read my post.FreeChavez said:
Or what? We might miss the ncaa tourney? People need to stop with the drama of "we need to hire X, or else". Nobody has a clue how a new guy will do. Tinkle, and LarryK are recent examples of guys nobody expected to turn the page that quickly, while the bum at USC and alford(okay i expected that one) have been more than lackluster.ThomasFremont said:IF Romar is fired, Woodward better make a big time hire.
We better not end up with some assistant coach from a big name school looking for his first HC gig.
Either way, you can't go further until you try something new. Romar has shown what his ability is here and it's time we give someone else the keys. Even if UW is a good job, we're not going to get some crazy ass hire. Basketball isn't like that at all. Hell, UCLA got alford of all people.
It's an obvious shot at Sark...aka the type of hire I don't want Pool Boy to make.
Trying "anything" or "something" else besides Romar isn't good enough. Obviously "anything" can happen, but that's the type of hope based decision making that gets you Sark. My only hesitation firing Romar is that Pool Boy has to hire his replacement. His track record does not instill confidence (kept Ty year 4, Sark). If he hadn't lucked into Petersen, we'd have Nuss. Pool Boy is a major dumb fuck.
My list of realistic candidates:
-Gregg Marshall
-Fred Hoiberg
-Archie Miller
-Shaka Smart
UW is a more desirable job. Location and pay improvement. It's also a step up from mid-major to power conference coaching for all but Hoiberg.
Second, I believe that you can look at a few hires that Pool Boy has made and see that he might know a bit of what he's doing. The baseball program has gone from the sewer to being pretty damn good under Meggs (trust me, I saw them when they suck playing against my brother - I'd seen HS travel teams in Texas with far better talent). The women's basketball program is going to the Dance this year and is definitely on the right track (Pepsi can speak better to that than I can). So it's not like Pool Boy has completely shit the bed.
Third, Hoiberg isn't a realistic candidate. Neither is Shaka Smart. Not sure how much Gregg Marshall is either - but there may be an opening there because I believe his in-laws live up on Whidbey. Archie Miller is definitely worth talking to. There's also plenty of outside the box options as well whether it be guys that nobody has thought about because they have a CONTRACT elsewhere or guys coming from the pro ranks like Mac10. -
Well I wasn't directly ripping you, but the convo has been out there for so long on Dm.c that I'm quick to the trigger. You don't fire X, b/c you don't really have viable option Y. So my apologies.ThomasFremont said:
Dude, you need to calm down, take a long walk on the beach to get some perspective, and then maybe re-read my post.FreeChavez said:
Or what? We might miss the ncaa tourney? People need to stop with the drama of "we need to hire X, or else". Nobody has a clue how a new guy will do. Tinkle, and LarryK are recent examples of guys nobody expected to turn the page that quickly, while the bum at USC and alford(okay i expected that one) have been more than lackluster.ThomasFremont said:IF Romar is fired, Woodward better make a big time hire.
We better not end up with some assistant coach from a big name school looking for his first HC gig.
Either way, you can't go further until you try something new. Romar has shown what his ability is here and it's time we give someone else the keys. Even if UW is a good job, we're not going to get some crazy ass hire. Basketball isn't like that at all. Hell, UCLA got alford of all people.
It's an obvious shot at Sark...aka the type of hire I don't want Pool Boy to make.
Trying "anything" or "something" else besides Romar isn't good enough. Obviously "anything" can happen, but that's the type of hope based decision making that gets you Sark. My only hesitation firing Romar is that Pool Boy has to hire his replacement. His track record does not instill confidence (kept Ty year 4, Sark). If he hadn't lucked into Petersen, we'd have Nuss. Pool Boy is a major dumb fuck.
My list of realistic candidates:
-Gregg Marshall
-Fred Hoiberg
-Archie Miller
-Shaka Smart
UW is a more desirable job. Location and pay improvement. It's also a step up from mid-major to power conference coaching for all but Hoiberg.
Your response though does make me pause. Let's get serious about our options. 3 people on your list are pretty out there and not realistic bar to set for our AD. Smart isn't going to UW after turning down god knows how many places(including westwood). Fred Hoiberg is at his school and has them as a top 25 program right now. Why start over in a whole new area(which you noted). Greg marshall? Maybe based on his family ties but I still don't see him as some sort of crazy upgrade worth pumping money into.
Archie miller is a legit comment though. He has ties to want to beat his brother. Obviously UW is better than dayton, but you have to believe being a midwest/east guy, that eventually he's going back. However that's been the rub on his brother for a while and he's turned down big chances. He's also at zona.
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I'll remove Hoiberg from the realistic category.FreeChavez said:
Well I wasn't directly ripping you, but the convo has been out there for so long on Dm.c that I'm quick to the trigger. You don't fire X, b/c you don't really have viable option Y. So my apologies.ThomasFremont said:
Dude, you need to calm down, take a long walk on the beach to get some perspective, and then maybe re-read my post.FreeChavez said:
Or what? We might miss the ncaa tourney? People need to stop with the drama of "we need to hire X, or else". Nobody has a clue how a new guy will do. Tinkle, and LarryK are recent examples of guys nobody expected to turn the page that quickly, while the bum at USC and alford(okay i expected that one) have been more than lackluster.ThomasFremont said:IF Romar is fired, Woodward better make a big time hire.
We better not end up with some assistant coach from a big name school looking for his first HC gig.
Either way, you can't go further until you try something new. Romar has shown what his ability is here and it's time we give someone else the keys. Even if UW is a good job, we're not going to get some crazy ass hire. Basketball isn't like that at all. Hell, UCLA got alford of all people.
It's an obvious shot at Sark...aka the type of hire I don't want Pool Boy to make.
Trying "anything" or "something" else besides Romar isn't good enough. Obviously "anything" can happen, but that's the type of hope based decision making that gets you Sark. My only hesitation firing Romar is that Pool Boy has to hire his replacement. His track record does not instill confidence (kept Ty year 4, Sark). If he hadn't lucked into Petersen, we'd have Nuss. Pool Boy is a major dumb fuck.
My list of realistic candidates:
-Gregg Marshall
-Fred Hoiberg
-Archie Miller
-Shaka Smart
UW is a more desirable job. Location and pay improvement. It's also a step up from mid-major to power conference coaching for all but Hoiberg.
Your response though does make me pause. Let's get serious about our options. 3 people on your list are pretty out there and not realistic bar to set for our AD. Smart isn't going to UW after turning down god knows how many places(including westwood). Fred Hoiberg is at his school and has them as a top 25 program right now. Why start over in a whole new area(which you noted). Greg marshall? Maybe based on his family ties but I still don't see him as some sort of crazy upgrade worth pumping money into.
Archie miller is a legit comment though. He has ties to want to beat his brother. Obviously UW is better than dayton, but you have to believe being a midwest/east guy, that eventually he's going back. However that's been the rub on his brother for a while and he's turned down big chances. He's also at zona.
Either way, miller would be a very interesting name to troll for.
He's making $2 million/yr at his alma mater with a large buyout clause. He's set up already for a Romar style tenure.
Smart turned down a lot of schools, but so did Pete before he wanted a new challenge. You at least take the shot. He's only making $1.3 million/yr at VCU. Money talks a little bit.
I agree that Marshall and Miller are more realistic, Miller being the MOST realistic. -
Marshall would be my #1 choice
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Interesting 2013 article on Gregg Marshall and what's keeping him in Wichita.
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Good read, thanks for posting.
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Well fuck...TTJ said:Interesting 2013 article on Gregg Marshall and what's keeping him in Wichita.
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The time to get Marshall is now. Van Vleet and Baker will be gone soon. Baker almost left for the NBA last year. I doubt he wants to rebuild again at Wichita State when he can do it somewhere else for two or three times the money.
I doubt he wants to come to UW though. He will have better opportunites at place where basketball is a bigger priority. The In-laws living in Washington could be a good thing. Maybe his wife would nag him about being closer to them. It could also not mean anything at all. They are in-laws. -
Pool boy also let Tyroan coach out the season which was a gutless decision.
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Was there an assistant coach on that team that you'd have turned the keys over to at that point? I seem to recall that staff was a dreckfest.HeretoBeatmyChest said:Pool boy also let Tyroan coach out the season which was a gutless decision.
