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OMG, could it be that our Government is wrong about something?
"It’s a proven fact that vaccine manufacturers and health authorities have known about the dangers associated with vaccines for a very long time, but have chosen to withhold them from public knowledge in order to maintain “herd immunity.” This is scientific fraud and manipulation of scientific data that’s dished out to doctors worldwide." Dr. Suzanne Humphries
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=efto1LpWkKw
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Thanks for the laugh, D2D. That video was great.
Shit talking aside, measles killed over half a million people in 1990.
"Most people live through it" = / = "no big fucking deal".
People are free to decide what they want. If people don't give their kids the measles vaccine, I'm free to point out that they're stupid.
1.) In 2013, there were 145,700 measles deaths globally – about 400 deaths every day or 16 deaths every hour.
2.) Measles vaccination resulted in a 75% drop in measles deaths between 2000 and 2013 worldwide.
Okay, okay, so this isn't Africa or other poor countries, this is
WASHINGTONAMERICA DAMMIT! so what about measles in a first-world country? What about France with a modern healthcare system and a population had adequate access to medical care, is educated, is wealthy, and has health insurance?http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/19/3/12-1360_article
Highlights are that there were >20,000 cases between 2008-2011, resulting in nearly 4,980 hospitalizations and even 10 deaths. Yeah, in France, who has a pretty damn good medical system.
And not just France, but other European countries have had thousands of cases per year in various outbreaks, with Spain and Italy having outbreaks in 2011, too. (http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/notes/2013/measles_20130117/en/) The other issue is costs. Look at some of the numbers I mentioned earlier for France's hospitalizations between 2008-2011; there were a total of 4,980 hospitalizations. That's money that is coming out of health insurance plans that could be coming out or your tax dollars. Yeah, in France, it's from the national health care system, but the same principle is true in the US if these patients are Medicaid... or worse, from within the same group of your private health insurance plan (meaning you'll be paying a higher cost-share in premiums the following year).
The first big deal is that it can be fatal, even in developed countries. The second big deal is costs.
Please cite "US only" statistics, not Bangladesh. I really don't care how many fucking Muslims died from measles. Whatever it was, it wasn't enough.
We made the decision. No one is forcing anyone to do anything.
Also, great retort. What else you got?
You "US only" statistics aren't going to teach you much because almost everyone in the US got vaccinated. This new crunchy granola hippy anti vaccine movement that you've somehow embraced is going to provide a different data set for us to look at in 15 or 20 years, but we're going to have to give measles some tim to get it's own viruses in there.
The whole poont is that where masses of people don't get vaccinated, it's a BFD. It would be wise to not become that.
In fact, Mississippi, of all states, has the highest rates of vaccination in the US.
This map is rabies vaccines for cats and dogs.
Also, your original argument was that vaccines aren't safe. Your map above shows that we aren't giving vaccines to cats and dogs in WA state, yet you criticize Patty Murray about it even though she's a Senator and is not affiliated with approving health policy at the state level.
PS: Republicans are smarter than Libtards.
bizpacreview.com/2013/03/10/pew-makes-it-official-republicans-are-smarter-than-democrats-54686