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'17 UW offeree ATH Salvon Ahmed (Juanita HS)

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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 69,698 Founders Club
    Bill Stapleton was underrated, but was a hard-hitting bad ass.
  • RaccoonHarry
    RaccoonHarry Member Posts: 2,161
    Ahmed? WTF? The Huskies are getting so desperate for talent they're recruiting ISIS?
  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
    Now lets not get carried away James.
  • HuskyInAZ
    HuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,732
    I don't get the obsession with this 7 on 7 stuff. IMO, it shows nothing. It would be like evaluating a kids BB talent based on how he looks at practice in a 3 on 2 drill.

    If the OP really wants an opinion, post some game film (elevated, not field level), and the interested TBSers on this board will bite. Case in point......Fotu Leiatoleileiamuna.
  • JamesChristianson
    JamesChristianson Member Posts: 45

    Now lets not get carried away James.

    I did say the word "possibility"...not getting carried away. As long as we are talking about recruiting, EVERY issue is speculation until the player(s) put on the pads and set foot in Husky Stadium on game day. So, I'm just enjoying the speculation. And I would not even bother talking about him in such a manner if he wasn't an all-conference sophomore and hadn't proved it on the field.

  • JamesChristianson
    JamesChristianson Member Posts: 45
    HuskyInAZ said:

    I don't get the obsession with this 7 on 7 stuff. IMO, it shows nothing. It would be like evaluating a kids BB talent based on how he looks at practice in a 3 on 2 drill.

    If the OP really wants an opinion, post some game film (elevated, not field level), and the interested TBSers on this board will bite. Case in point......Fotu Leiatoleileiamuna.

    No obsession. Just an observation on how a kid can break on the ball in full speed 7v7 games and drills better than anyone else, including a 4-star recruit. That's worth noting. The only thing we don't know is how well he tackles in pads.

    If I took you literally ("it shows NOTHING"), then high schools and colleges should never practice...they should just scrimmage 100% of the time to figure out their depth charts. The fact is that some drills, and some game-LIKE scenarios do show A LITTLE something...or else they wouldn't put up a depth chart BEFORE a game and announce starters BEFORE game 1 of the season. Colleges can't know how well a kid is gonna do in college until he actually plays in college after he's recruited. So, everything you know before he suits up at a D1 school has SOME value.

    BTW, during hoop tryouts, they will do 3 on 2 drills as part of the process to evaluate who gets cut and who stays.

  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754

    HuskyInAZ said:

    I don't get the obsession with this 7 on 7 stuff. IMO, it shows nothing. It would be like evaluating a kids BB talent based on how he looks at practice in a 3 on 2 drill.

    If the OP really wants an opinion, post some game film (elevated, not field level), and the interested TBSers on this board will bite. Case in point......Fotu Leiatoleileiamuna.

    No obsession. Just an observation on how a kid can break on the ball in full speed 7v7 games and drills better than anyone else, including a 4-star recruit. That's worth noting. The only thing we don't know is how well he tackles in pads.

    If I took you literally ("it shows NOTHING"), then high schools and colleges should never practice...they should just scrimmage 100% of the time to figure out their depth charts. The fact is that some drills, and some game-LIKE scenarios do show A LITTLE something...or else they wouldn't put up a depth chart BEFORE a game and announce starters BEFORE game 1 of the season. Colleges can't know how well a kid is gonna do in college until he actually plays in college after he's recruited. So, everything you know before he suits up at a D1 school has SOME value.

    BTW, during hoop tryouts, they will do 3 on 2 drills as part of the process to evaluate who gets cut and who stays.

    Yeah, it shows nothing.
  • HuskyInAZ
    HuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,732

    HuskyInAZ said:

    I don't get the obsession with this 7 on 7 stuff. IMO, it shows nothing. It would be like evaluating a kids BB talent based on how he looks at practice in a 3 on 2 drill.

    If the OP really wants an opinion, post some game film (elevated, not field level), and the interested TBSers on this board will bite. Case in point......Fotu Leiatoleileiamuna.

    No obsession. Just an observation on how a kid can break on the ball in full speed 7v7 games and drills better than anyone else, including a 4-star recruit. That's worth noting. The only thing we don't know is how well he tackles in pads.

    If I took you literally ("it shows NOTHING"), then high schools and colleges should never practice...they should just scrimmage 100% of the time to figure out their depth charts. The fact is that some drills, and some game-LIKE scenarios do show A LITTLE something...or else they wouldn't put up a depth chart BEFORE a game and announce starters BEFORE game 1 of the season. Colleges can't know how well a kid is gonna do in college until he actually plays in college after he's recruited. So, everything you know before he suits up at a D1 school has SOME value.

    BTW, during hoop tryouts, they will do 3 on 2 drills as part of the process to evaluate who gets cut and who stays.

    My point is that in terms of RECRUITING VIDEOS, game footage shot from above is, by far, the best video to use when evaluating a player. The only value, IMO, of video of drills (e.g. 7 on 7) is that it allows the video to zoom in on skill/technique details, such as how are their feet, how well do they use their hands and the dreaded....how are their hips.....in a DRILL environment. This is only true do to the fact that game footage is almost always shot to cover the entire field, and can be really tough to see those details. But game footage will always show the RESULTS of those skills/techniques or lack thereof.

    Hudl does a great job of this. I know they don't shoot the video, and as rough as their editing can be, they are simple, shot at the right angle (for the most part) and usually allow an evaluator enough footage to evaluate a player's game performance. And they don't have any of the soccer mom fluff, which is a complete waste of time if the purpose of the video is recruiting.

    As for the 3 on 2 basketball analogy, I'm not talking about junior high sports. I'm talking about D1 sports. Please enlighten me on any major college coach who uses 3 on 2 drills as part of the process to evaluate their players or recruits. Do they use layup drills as part of that process as well?