Vernon Adams to Oregon?
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Taller qb's don't get injured???... check.
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Size has very little to do with a QB getting injured. Adams is probably more compact than Mariota anyways, so I'm not sure that is a good point. Adams could get hurt, or he won't. It's football. Either way it will be interesting.
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The better team lost that day.whatshouldicareabout said:
If they were, they would've won on the field this year.Mosster47 said:RaceBannon said:Oregon is signing him to keep him away from UW
He was already on the best football program in the state of Washington.
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You clearly have a simple mind so did you go to the JC we know as Oregon? A bigger frame usually means more weight and generally bigger / stronger QBs are less likely to get injured.
And as RoadDawg mentioned, genetics are also a factor as some guys are simply more injury prone than others. If Adams is prone to cramping, a HUNH read-option offense would be the worst offense for him outside of Paul Johnson's triple option. 6' 190 lbs, a step-up in competition, and prone to cramping? Yikes.sarktastic said:Taller qb's don't get injured???... check.
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I wouldn't say very little but I agree with you that some of it genetics and there's also some luck involved.
However, I wouldn't call Adams compact at 6' 190....Russell Wilson is compact at about 5'10 1/2" and 206 lbs. Adams has a slight build more like Keith Price.RoadDawg55 said:Size has very little to do with a QB getting injured. Adams is probably more compact than Mariota anyways, so I'm not sure that is a good point. Adams could get hurt, or he won't. It's football. Either way it will be interesting.
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my simple mind is telling me the #2 team in the country wants Vernon Adams to come lead their team next season and they think he's perfect for what they like to run.
I think it may also be time for you to change your tampon. -
If Chip Kelly was still at Oregon, this attempt would get the benefit of the doubt. But he's not and makes one wonder how bad Lockie and Mahalak are.
As for your panties, why are they so in bunch simply because people are questioning if Helfrich is getting desperate? OTOH and looking at it from another angle, maybe Helfrich wants to ride Adams as long as he can and then if he gets injured, only then does he have to turn to Lockie or Mahalak.
Personally and as someone else said, I think he'd be a better fit in an Air Raid type offense since he'd probably last longer.sarktastic said:my simple mind is telling me the #2 team in the country wants Vernon Adams to come lead their team next season and they think he's perfect for what they like to run.
I think it may also be time for you to change your tampon. -
With the receiving talent Oregon is bringing back next year, the offense might have a lot more air raid to it. I know they have Tyner and Freeman, but they'll have Allen, Stanford, Carrington, Marshall, and Addison from injury. Oregon has so much wealth on the outside, they can't ingore it.HFNY said:If Chip Kelly was still at Oregon, this attempt would get the benefit of the doubt. But he's not and makes one wonder how bad Lockie and Mahalak are.
As for your panties, why are they so in bunch simply because people are questioning if Helfrich is getting desperate? OTOH and looking at it from another angle, maybe Helfrich wants to ride Adams as long as he can and then if he gets injured, only then does he have to turn to Lockie or Mahalak.
Personally and as someone else said, I think he'd be a better fit in an Air Raid type offense since he'd probably last longer.sarktastic said:my simple mind is telling me the #2 team in the country wants Vernon Adams to come lead their team next season and they think he's perfect for what they like to run.
I think it may also be time for you to change your tampon. -
That is true, would love to have Oregon's WRs talent / depth.greenblood said:
With the receiving talent Oregon is bringing back next year, the offense might have a lot more air raid to it. I know they have Tyner and Freeman, but they'll have Allen, Stanford, Carrington, Marshall, and Addison from injury. Oregon has so much wealth on the outside, they can't ingore it.HFNY said:If Chip Kelly was still at Oregon, this attempt would get the benefit of the doubt. But he's not and makes one wonder how bad Lockie and Mahalak are.
As for your panties, why are they so in bunch simply because people are questioning if Helfrich is getting desperate? OTOH and looking at it from another angle, maybe Helfrich wants to ride Adams as long as he can and then if he gets injured, only then does he have to turn to Lockie or Mahalak.
Personally and as someone else said, I think he'd be a better fit in an Air Raid type offense since he'd probably last longer.sarktastic said:my simple mind is telling me the #2 team in the country wants Vernon Adams to come lead their team next season and they think he's perfect for what they like to run.
I think it may also be time for you to change your tampon. -
The kyler murray dream apparently died last night for oregon and texas at the hands of Kevin Sumlin
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The dream never really was. Murray's dad was a QB at aggy and while I think he might have considered Oregon more if we were closer to home, we aren't.
Also, kind of a bone of contention for me is that Helfrich really like to fling the ball around more than Kelly did. I like the spread-option with the running game as the primary weapon rather than a pass-oriented spread. Helfrich as an ex-QB and QBs coach is much more interested in the passing game. Oregon passed a lot more with Mariota and will almost certainly continue that trend if Adams comes to Eugene.
I'm still giving Helfrich the benefit of the doubt because of the strong finish to the 2014 season. Oregon also had two talented guys transfer out when Mariota decided to come back for his senior year. If Bryan Bennett had been willing to spend an extra year in the program and go to five years of eligibility, he would be the QB next fall, using his fifth year of eligibility. Then we wouldn't need a Vernon Adams to fill the gap. -
The only thing is that Adams has an actual disease that leads to severe body cramping, so it's not really all about his size. But I get your poont none the less.RoadDawg55 said:Size has very little to do with a QB getting injured. Adams is probably more compact than Mariota anyways, so I'm not sure that is a good point. Adams could get hurt, or he won't. It's football. Either way it will be interesting.
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Not only was he a QB at A&M, he was a legendary QB at A&M. Up until Manziel he was probably the best QB in school history.AZDuck said:The dream never really was. Murray's dad was a QB at aggy and while I think he might have considered Oregon more if we were closer to home, we aren't.
Also, kind of a bone of contention for me is that Helfrich really like to fling the ball around more than Kelly did. I like the spread-option with the running game as the primary weapon rather than a pass-oriented spread. Helfrich as an ex-QB and QBs coach is much more interested in the passing game. Oregon passed a lot more with Mariota and will almost certainly continue that trend if Adams comes to Eugene.
I'm still giving Helfrich the benefit of the doubt because of the strong finish to the 2014 season. Oregon also had two talented guys transfer out when Mariota decided to come back for his senior year. If Bryan Bennett had been willing to spend an extra year in the program and go to five years of eligibility, he would be the QB next fall, using his fifth year of eligibility. Then we wouldn't need a Vernon Adams to fill the gap.
It would be akin to Dan Fouts having a 5star QB son committ to the Ducks for over a year and then leave them in the lurch 5 days before NSD. Never was gonna happen, even if Oregon was located in Texas. Quook.
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You really are the king of butthurt.BallSacked said:
Not only was he a QB at A&M, he was a legendary QB at A&M. Up until Manziel he was probably the best QB in school history.AZDuck said:The dream never really was. Murray's dad was a QB at aggy and while I think he might have considered Oregon more if we were closer to home, we aren't.
Also, kind of a bone of contention for me is that Helfrich really like to fling the ball around more than Kelly did. I like the spread-option with the running game as the primary weapon rather than a pass-oriented spread. Helfrich as an ex-QB and QBs coach is much more interested in the passing game. Oregon passed a lot more with Mariota and will almost certainly continue that trend if Adams comes to Eugene.
I'm still giving Helfrich the benefit of the doubt because of the strong finish to the 2014 season. Oregon also had two talented guys transfer out when Mariota decided to come back for his senior year. If Bryan Bennett had been willing to spend an extra year in the program and go to five years of eligibility, he would be the QB next fall, using his fifth year of eligibility. Then we wouldn't need a Vernon Adams to fill the gap.
It would be akin to Dan Fouts having a 5star QB son committ to the Ducks for over a year and then leave them in the lurch 5 days before NSD. Never was gonna happen, even if Oregon was located in Texas. Quook. -
brchco12 said:
The kyler murray dream apparently died last night for oregon and texas at the hands of
Kevin SumlinBlack Sark -
Yea, real loss there on the 5'11" quarterback who looked great in high school. Next man up.
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You take Vernon Adams for one year even if Mariota comes back. That one year ride was going to go to a walk-on that would never do anything on the field besides score a late TD on UW. You've got an absolutely proven QB that wants to come for one season. In no way does it make any sense to turn that opportunity down no matter your offensive style of depth.
Lets say Mahalak is a stud, he just kills is for the first six weeks and breaks his ankle. Guess what? You've got Vernon Adams to go in. Outside of Ohio State you've got the best backup QB in the country.
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It's still Friday for the next 2 minutes.Mosster47 said:You take Vernon Adams for one year even if Mariota comes back.That one year ride was going to go to a walk-on that would never do anything on the field besides score a late TD on UW. You've got an absolutely proven QB that wants to come for one season. In no way does it make any sense to turn that opportunity down no matter your offensive style of depth.
Lets say Mahalak is a stud, he just kills is for the first six weeks and breaks his ankle. Guess what? You've got Vernon Adams to go in. Outside of Ohio State you've got the best backup QB in the country.
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Naieve and narrow thinking there.Mosster47 said:You take Vernon Adams for one year even if Mariota comes back. That one year ride was going to go to a walk-on that would never do anything on the field besides score a late TD on UW. You've got an absolutely proven QB that wants to come for one season. In no way does it make any sense to turn that opportunity down no matter your offensive style of depth.
Lets say Mahalak is a stud, he just kills is for the first six weeks and breaks his ankle. Guess what? You've got Vernon Adams to go in. Outside of Ohio State you've got the best backup QB in the country.
Zero programs say no to Adams. He could have went anywhere.
Vernon Adams has a say in this as well. He doesn't take the transfer just to sit on the bench. If he is going there, it's because he got assurances he would likely win the job and start. He would go someplace else otherwise, or he would stay put and play out his last year.
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Does anyone else feel like educk AIDS is creeping over onto this site?
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My Lord. Aubs is blushing at this brilliant unbiased analysis you bring to this thread.HFNY said:If Chip Kelly was still at Oregon, this attempt would get the benefit of the doubt. But he's not and makes one wonder how bad Lockie and Mahalak are.
As for your panties, why are they so in bunch simply because people are questioning if Helfrich is getting desperate? OTOH and looking at it from another angle, maybe Helfrich wants to ride Adams as long as he can and then if he gets injured, only then does he have to turn to Lockie or Mahalak.
Personally and as someone else said, I think he'd be a better fit in an Air Raid type offense since he'd probably last longer.sarktastic said:my simple mind is telling me the #2 team in the country wants Vernon Adams to come lead their team next season and they think he's perfect for what they like to run.
I think it may also be time for you to change your tampon.
It's always great to see the true Doogs get that waft of breeze back in their sails after an Oregon loss. Adams is no Mariota. But He's damn good as you all know. And Chiip Kelly's not coming back