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  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    Taller qb's don't get injured???... check.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    Size has very little to do with a QB getting injured. Adams is probably more compact than Mariota anyways, so I'm not sure that is a good point. Adams could get hurt, or he won't. It's football. Either way it will be interesting.
  • RaccoonHarry
    RaccoonHarry Member Posts: 2,161

    Mosster47 said:

    Oregon is signing him to keep him away from UW


    He was already on the best football program in the state of Washington.
    If they were, they would've won on the field this year.
    The better team lost that day.

    Mike Bellotti
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Mosster47 said:

    beelzebub said:

    you know this board has jumped the sark when Mosster is voice of reason.


    Always have been. Doog hope is such a sweet jewel though. I like to hoard it like the Hebrews do with diamonds. Then I let just a little out to keep demand high.
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  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,380
    You clearly have a simple mind so did you go to the JC we know as Oregon? A bigger frame usually means more weight and generally bigger / stronger QBs are less likely to get injured.

    And as RoadDawg mentioned, genetics are also a factor as some guys are simply more injury prone than others. If Adams is prone to cramping, a HUNH read-option offense would be the worst offense for him outside of Paul Johnson's triple option. 6' 190 lbs, a step-up in competition, and prone to cramping? Yikes.

    Taller qb's don't get injured???... check.

  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,380
    I wouldn't say very little but I agree with you that some of it genetics and there's also some luck involved.

    However, I wouldn't call Adams compact at 6' 190....Russell Wilson is compact at about 5'10 1/2" and 206 lbs. Adams has a slight build more like Keith Price.

    Size has very little to do with a QB getting injured. Adams is probably more compact than Mariota anyways, so I'm not sure that is a good point. Adams could get hurt, or he won't. It's football. Either way it will be interesting.

  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    my simple mind is telling me the #2 team in the country wants Vernon Adams to come lead their team next season and they think he's perfect for what they like to run.

    I think it may also be time for you to change your tampon.
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,380
    If Chip Kelly was still at Oregon, this attempt would get the benefit of the doubt. But he's not and makes one wonder how bad Lockie and Mahalak are.

    As for your panties, why are they so in bunch simply because people are questioning if Helfrich is getting desperate? OTOH and looking at it from another angle, maybe Helfrich wants to ride Adams as long as he can and then if he gets injured, only then does he have to turn to Lockie or Mahalak.

    Personally and as someone else said, I think he'd be a better fit in an Air Raid type offense since he'd probably last longer.

    my simple mind is telling me the #2 team in the country wants Vernon Adams to come lead their team next season and they think he's perfect for what they like to run.

    I think it may also be time for you to change your tampon.

  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    HFNY said:

    If Chip Kelly was still at Oregon, this attempt would get the benefit of the doubt. But he's not and makes one wonder how bad Lockie and Mahalak are.

    As for your panties, why are they so in bunch simply because people are questioning if Helfrich is getting desperate? OTOH and looking at it from another angle, maybe Helfrich wants to ride Adams as long as he can and then if he gets injured, only then does he have to turn to Lockie or Mahalak.

    Personally and as someone else said, I think he'd be a better fit in an Air Raid type offense since he'd probably last longer.

    my simple mind is telling me the #2 team in the country wants Vernon Adams to come lead their team next season and they think he's perfect for what they like to run.

    I think it may also be time for you to change your tampon.

    With the receiving talent Oregon is bringing back next year, the offense might have a lot more air raid to it. I know they have Tyner and Freeman, but they'll have Allen, Stanford, Carrington, Marshall, and Addison from injury. Oregon has so much wealth on the outside, they can't ingore it.
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,380
    That is true, would love to have Oregon's WRs talent / depth.

    HFNY said:

    If Chip Kelly was still at Oregon, this attempt would get the benefit of the doubt. But he's not and makes one wonder how bad Lockie and Mahalak are.

    As for your panties, why are they so in bunch simply because people are questioning if Helfrich is getting desperate? OTOH and looking at it from another angle, maybe Helfrich wants to ride Adams as long as he can and then if he gets injured, only then does he have to turn to Lockie or Mahalak.

    Personally and as someone else said, I think he'd be a better fit in an Air Raid type offense since he'd probably last longer.

    my simple mind is telling me the #2 team in the country wants Vernon Adams to come lead their team next season and they think he's perfect for what they like to run.

    I think it may also be time for you to change your tampon.

    With the receiving talent Oregon is bringing back next year, the offense might have a lot more air raid to it. I know they have Tyner and Freeman, but they'll have Allen, Stanford, Carrington, Marshall, and Addison from injury. Oregon has so much wealth on the outside, they can't ingore it.
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,672 Founders Club
    The kyler murray dream apparently died last night for oregon and texas at the hands of Kevin Sumlin
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    The dream never really was. Murray's dad was a QB at aggy and while I think he might have considered Oregon more if we were closer to home, we aren't.

    Also, kind of a bone of contention for me is that Helfrich really like to fling the ball around more than Kelly did. I like the spread-option with the running game as the primary weapon rather than a pass-oriented spread. Helfrich as an ex-QB and QBs coach is much more interested in the passing game. Oregon passed a lot more with Mariota and will almost certainly continue that trend if Adams comes to Eugene.

    I'm still giving Helfrich the benefit of the doubt because of the strong finish to the 2014 season. Oregon also had two talented guys transfer out when Mariota decided to come back for his senior year. If Bryan Bennett had been willing to spend an extra year in the program and go to five years of eligibility, he would be the QB next fall, using his fifth year of eligibility. Then we wouldn't need a Vernon Adams to fill the gap.
  • CokeGreaterThanPepsi
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646

    Size has very little to do with a QB getting injured. Adams is probably more compact than Mariota anyways, so I'm not sure that is a good point. Adams could get hurt, or he won't. It's football. Either way it will be interesting.

    The only thing is that Adams has an actual disease that leads to severe body cramping, so it's not really all about his size. But I get your poont none the less.
  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    edited January 2015
    AZDuck said:

    The dream never really was. Murray's dad was a QB at aggy and while I think he might have considered Oregon more if we were closer to home, we aren't.

    Also, kind of a bone of contention for me is that Helfrich really like to fling the ball around more than Kelly did. I like the spread-option with the running game as the primary weapon rather than a pass-oriented spread. Helfrich as an ex-QB and QBs coach is much more interested in the passing game. Oregon passed a lot more with Mariota and will almost certainly continue that trend if Adams comes to Eugene.

    I'm still giving Helfrich the benefit of the doubt because of the strong finish to the 2014 season. Oregon also had two talented guys transfer out when Mariota decided to come back for his senior year. If Bryan Bennett had been willing to spend an extra year in the program and go to five years of eligibility, he would be the QB next fall, using his fifth year of eligibility. Then we wouldn't need a Vernon Adams to fill the gap.

    Not only was he a QB at A&M, he was a legendary QB at A&M. Up until Manziel he was probably the best QB in school history.

    It would be akin to Dan Fouts having a 5star QB son committ to the Ducks for over a year and then leave them in the lurch 5 days before NSD. Never was gonna happen, even if Oregon was located in Texas. Quook.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381

    AZDuck said:

    The dream never really was. Murray's dad was a QB at aggy and while I think he might have considered Oregon more if we were closer to home, we aren't.

    Also, kind of a bone of contention for me is that Helfrich really like to fling the ball around more than Kelly did. I like the spread-option with the running game as the primary weapon rather than a pass-oriented spread. Helfrich as an ex-QB and QBs coach is much more interested in the passing game. Oregon passed a lot more with Mariota and will almost certainly continue that trend if Adams comes to Eugene.

    I'm still giving Helfrich the benefit of the doubt because of the strong finish to the 2014 season. Oregon also had two talented guys transfer out when Mariota decided to come back for his senior year. If Bryan Bennett had been willing to spend an extra year in the program and go to five years of eligibility, he would be the QB next fall, using his fifth year of eligibility. Then we wouldn't need a Vernon Adams to fill the gap.

    Not only was he a QB at A&M, he was a legendary QB at A&M. Up until Manziel he was probably the best QB in school history.

    It would be akin to Dan Fouts having a 5star QB son committ to the Ducks for over a year and then leave them in the lurch 5 days before NSD. Never was gonna happen, even if Oregon was located in Texas. Quook.
    You really are the king of butthurt.
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,720 Founders Club
    brchco12 said:

    The kyler murray dream apparently died last night for oregon and texas at the hands of Kevin Sumlin Black Sark

  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    Doogles said:

    brchco12 said:

    The kyler murray dream apparently died last night for oregon and texas at the hands of Kevin Sumlin Black Sark

    Perfectest description of Sumlin I have ever seen
  • Jave
    Jave Member Posts: 43
    Yea, real loss there on the 5'11" quarterback who looked great in high school. Next man up.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    You take Vernon Adams for one year even if Mariota comes back. That one year ride was going to go to a walk-on that would never do anything on the field besides score a late TD on UW. You've got an absolutely proven QB that wants to come for one season. In no way does it make any sense to turn that opportunity down no matter your offensive style of depth.

    Lets say Mahalak is a stud, he just kills is for the first six weeks and breaks his ankle. Guess what? You've got Vernon Adams to go in. Outside of Ohio State you've got the best backup QB in the country.

    Zero programs say no to Adams. He could have went anywhere.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,654 Founders Club
    edited January 2015
    Mosster47 said:

    You take Vernon Adams for one year even if Mariota comes back.That one year ride was going to go to a walk-on that would never do anything on the field besides score a late TD on UW. You've got an absolutely proven QB that wants to come for one season. In no way does it make any sense to turn that opportunity down no matter your offensive style of depth.

    Lets say Mahalak is a stud, he just kills is for the first six weeks and breaks his ankle. Guess what? You've got Vernon Adams to go in. Outside of Ohio State you've got the best backup QB in the country.

    Zero programs say no to Adams. He could have went anywhere.

    It's still Friday for the next 2 minutes.
  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    edited January 2015
    Mosster47 said:

    You take Vernon Adams for one year even if Mariota comes back. That one year ride was going to go to a walk-on that would never do anything on the field besides score a late TD on UW. You've got an absolutely proven QB that wants to come for one season. In no way does it make any sense to turn that opportunity down no matter your offensive style of depth.

    Lets say Mahalak is a stud, he just kills is for the first six weeks and breaks his ankle. Guess what? You've got Vernon Adams to go in. Outside of Ohio State you've got the best backup QB in the country.

    Zero programs say no to Adams. He could have went anywhere.

    Naieve and narrow thinking there.

    Vernon Adams has a say in this as well. He doesn't take the transfer just to sit on the bench. If he is going there, it's because he got assurances he would likely win the job and start. He would go someplace else otherwise, or he would stay put and play out his last year.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    HFNY said:

    If Chip Kelly was still at Oregon, this attempt would get the benefit of the doubt. But he's not and makes one wonder how bad Lockie and Mahalak are.

    As for your panties, why are they so in bunch simply because people are questioning if Helfrich is getting desperate? OTOH and looking at it from another angle, maybe Helfrich wants to ride Adams as long as he can and then if he gets injured, only then does he have to turn to Lockie or Mahalak.

    Personally and as someone else said, I think he'd be a better fit in an Air Raid type offense since he'd probably last longer.

    my simple mind is telling me the #2 team in the country wants Vernon Adams to come lead their team next season and they think he's perfect for what they like to run.

    I think it may also be time for you to change your tampon.

    My Lord. Aubs is blushing at this brilliant unbiased analysis you bring to this thread.

    It's always great to see the true Doogs get that waft of breeze back in their sails after an Oregon loss. Adams is no Mariota. But He's damn good as you all know. And Chiip Kelly's not coming back