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the talent gap

So despite my best efforts, I found myself starting to get sucked in, as always, by the preseason hope. Husky stadium, year two of the Wilcox era, there are things to be excited about. Then I wandered over to esuck (lol).

Christ, what a depressing reality check. One thread comparing the rosters of UO and UW had the consensus being (once you took out tards who think Colt is better than ASJ) that they'd take 4 or 5 of our players. 22 starters and they think maybe 5 of ours are better than theirs. My solace is that they are underestimating our linebackers but, even so, ouch.

Another thread broke down our star players' stat lines against UO. Take a look:

Keith Price
2012- 19-31 145 yards 0 Td's 2 Int's
2011- 24-35 143 yards 2 Td's 2 Int's
2010- 14-28 127 yards 1 Td 0 Int

Kasen Williams
2012- 6-48 0 Td
2011- 6-79 1 Td

ASJ
2012- 2-33 0 Td
2011- 1-(minus)6 0 Td

That is unreal. Our stars just straight up disappear. Anyways, crown 'em. Our "rivals" make it 10 in a row this year.*


*Although I watched a replay of the USC-UO game yesterday and was reminded that a mediocre USC offense torched the Ducks for 51 points. So hope springs eternal and all that.
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453
    Sark's offense always sucks against good to decent defenses that is something that everyone seems to forget.

    Also I like how that Quook conveniently left out how Polk did against them and Sankey.
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    So despite my best efforts, I found myself starting to get sucked in, as always, by the preseason hope. Husky stadium, year two of the Wilcox era, there are things to be excited about. Then I wandered over to esuck (lol).

    Christ, what a depressing reality check. One thread comparing the rosters of UO and UW had the consensus being (once you took out tards who think Colt is better than ASJ) that they'd take 4 or 5 of our players. 22 starters and they think maybe 5 of ours are better than theirs. My solace is that they are underestimating our linebackers but, even so, ouch.

    Another thread broke down our star players' stat lines against UO. Take a look:

    Keith Price
    2012- 19-31 145 yards 0 Td's 2 Int's
    2011- 24-35 143 yards 2 Td's 2 Int's
    2010- 14-28 127 yards 1 Td 0 Int

    Kasen Williams
    2012- 6-48 0 Td
    2011- 6-79 1 Td

    ASJ
    2012- 2-33 0 Td
    2011- 1-(minus)6 0 Td

    That is unreal. Our stars just straight up disappear. Anyways, crown 'em. Our "rivals" make it 10 in a row this year.*


    *Although I watched a replay of the USC-UO game yesterday and was reminded that a mediocre USC offense torched the Ducks for 51 points. So hope springs eternal and all that.

    #HiMatmik!

  • chrisvashon
    chrisvashon Member Posts: 627

    Sark's offense always sucks against good to decent defenses that is something that everyone seems to forget.

    Also I like how that Quook conveniently left out how Polk did against them and Sankey.

    Sankey is a gamer, no doubt. But he can't do it himself.

    2012 Rushing: B. Sankey (WASH) - 25 CAR, 104 YDS, 2 TD
    2011 C. Polk 24 80 3.3

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453

    Sark's offense always sucks against good to decent defenses that is something that everyone seems to forget.

    Also I like how that Quook conveniently left out how Polk did against them and Sankey.

    Sankey is a gamer, no doubt. But he can't do it himself.

    2012 Rushing: B. Sankey (WASH) - 25 CAR, 104 YDS, 2 TD
    2011 C. Polk 24 80 3.3

    Polk was slowed down in 2011 but he still had 6 receptions for 31 yards so over 100 yards total offense.

    In 2010: He had 17 carries for 73 yards(4.3 YPC)

    In 2009: 18 carries for 104 yards(5.8 YPC) with a TD.

    In 2008: He was shut down only had 19 yards on 14 carries(1.4 YPC).
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,377 Standard Supporter
    edited August 2013
    Lyerla and ASJ are both really good, but I don't think Lyerla is far behind ASJ, if at all. Lyerla is faster, tougher, and far better with the ball in his hands than ASJ. I don't know who is the better blocker, but I do know ASJ isn't all that good at it. Oregon even lined Lyerla up at RB at times. I won't be surprised if Lyerla has a better NFL career.
  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133

    So despite my best efforts, I found myself starting to get sucked in, as always, by the preseason hope. Husky stadium, year two of the Wilcox era, there are things to be excited about. Then I wandered over to esuck (lol).

    Christ, what a depressing reality check. One thread comparing the rosters of UO and UW had the consensus being (once you took out tards who think Colt is better than ASJ) that they'd take 4 or 5 of our players. 22 starters and they think maybe 5 of ours are better than theirs. My solace is that they are underestimating our linebackers but, even so, ouch.

    Another thread broke down our star players' stat lines against UO. Take a look:

    Keith Price
    2012- 19-31 145 yards 0 Td's 2 Int's
    2011- 24-35 143 yards 2 Td's 2 Int's
    2010- 14-28 127 yards 1 Td 0 Int

    Kasen Williams
    2012- 6-48 0 Td
    2011- 6-79 1 Td

    ASJ
    2012- 2-33 0 Td
    2011- 1-(minus)6 0 Td

    That is unreal. Our stars just straight up disappear. Anyways, crown 'em. Our "rivals" make it 10 in a row this year.*


    *Although I watched a replay of the USC-UO game yesterday and was reminded that a mediocre USC offense torched the Ducks for 51 points. So hope springs eternal and all that.

    Stay off educk, its turning you into a fucktardo. Dude, you've got to have better things to do.! Holy shitballs! Watch UW vs BSU and then make assertions and roster comparisons.

    If we can just find a coach by the time we play Oregon, Our rosters will stack up just fine. In other words, if Sark coaches like he did his 1st year, UO is in deep doo-doo!
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    So despite my best efforts, I found myself starting to get sucked in, as always, by the preseason hope. Husky stadium, year two of the Wilcox era, there are things to be excited about. Then I wandered over to esuck (lol).

    Christ, what a depressing reality check. One thread comparing the rosters of UO and UW had the consensus being (once you took out tards who think Colt is better than ASJ) that they'd take 4 or 5 of our players. 22 starters and they think maybe 5 of ours are better than theirs. My solace is that they are underestimating our linebackers but, even so, ouch.

    Another thread broke down our star players' stat lines against UO. Take a look:

    Keith Price
    2012- 19-31 145 yards 0 Td's 2 Int's
    2011- 24-35 143 yards 2 Td's 2 Int's
    2010- 14-28 127 yards 1 Td 0 Int

    Kasen Williams
    2012- 6-48 0 Td
    2011- 6-79 1 Td

    ASJ
    2012- 2-33 0 Td
    2011- 1-(minus)6 0 Td

    That is unreal. Our stars just straight up disappear. Anyways, crown 'em. Our "rivals" make it 10 in a row this year.*


    *Although I watched a replay of the USC-UO game yesterday and was reminded that a mediocre USC offense torched the Ducks for 51 points. So hope springs eternal and all that.

    Stay off educk, its turning you into a fucktardo. Dude, you've got to have better things to do.! Holy shitballs! Watch UW vs BSU and then make assertions and roster comparisons.

    If we can just find a coach by the time we play Oregon, Our rosters will stack up just fine. In other words, if Sark coaches like he did his 1st year, UO is in deep doo-doo!
    2:30 bong rips >>>>> 2:30 shots of five hour energy
  • chrisvashon
    chrisvashon Member Posts: 627

    Lyerla and ASJ are both really good, but I don't think Lyerla is far behind ASJ, if at all. Lyerla is faster, tougher, and far better with the ball in his hands than ASJ. I don't know who is the better blocker, but I do know ASJ isn't all that good at it. Oregon even lined Lyerla up at RB at times. I won't be surprised if Lyerla has a better NFL career.

    Don't know about that

    Lyerla - 25 392 6
    ASJ - 69 852 7

    Lyerla is a check down. ASJ is our entire receiving core. #69




  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,377 Standard Supporter
    edited August 2013

    Lyerla and ASJ are both really good, but I don't think Lyerla is far behind ASJ, if at all. Lyerla is faster, tougher, and far better with the ball in his hands than ASJ. I don't know who is the better blocker, but I do know ASJ isn't all that good at it. Oregon even lined Lyerla up at RB at times. I won't be surprised if Lyerla has a better NFL career.

    Don't know about that

    Lyerla - 25 392 6
    ASJ - 69 852 7

    Lyerla is a check down. ASJ is our entire receiving core. #69




    Totally different offenses. Lyerla plays in a run first offense and has to share the ball with a lot of other guys. ASJ plays in a pass first offense where he and Kasen were the only options. You don't think Lyerla would have better stats in UW's offense?

    25 receptions for 392 is an average of 15.7 yards per catch. That's not a check down. That's the highest average for any player on Oregon who caught at least 10 balls. Oregon had 7 guys who caught more than 20 passes (and another with 19), UW had 4.

  • chrisvashon
    chrisvashon Member Posts: 627
    edited August 2013
    Perhaps "afterthought" would be a better descriptor than "check down."

    Our passing attack is built around ASJ because he's the best tight end in the country. Even Sark knows to get the best players the ball (unless it's the running back).

    Chip is a good coach. And Lyerla had 25 catches all season. On the most prolific offense in the country. I'm guessing they ran more plays than anyone else. 25 grabs is really pedestrian in that context.