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Changes at Oklahoma

TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,954
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12127185/josh-heupel-oklahoma-sooners-offensive-coordinator

Another bad QB costing coordinators their jobs - and in some ways, relevant to the discussion that many are having on Jonathan Smith.

Having seen Knight play in person this year, he was bad ... although a MASSIVE improvement over Cyler Miles. He struggled with progressions as well accuracy. At times, it made the Oklahoma offense very easy to defend because you would almost dare Knight to throw the ball. Against TCU, he managed to hit 2-3 deep throws (at least 1 was a ridiculous catch by the WR) that accounted for almost all of Oklahoma's offense.

I know that we talk about different things that OC's can do to make things a little better offensively in bad situations. But the reality is that the QB is the most important position on the football field. If you are getting poor play at that position, it's almost impossible to have anything more than an average offense.
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  • whatshouldicareaboutwhatshouldicareabout Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,947 Swaye's Wigwam
    I didn't look at the author of the post and thought it was someone normal. Then I got to the line
    "Against TCU"
    and immediately knew it was Tequilla.

    ===

    On a serious note, I wonder if Petersen will give Smith one more year to turn things around. I'm sure Petersen will be with Smith this off-season redesigning the offense, and coaching him up on how to be a better play-caller and how to coach up the QBs. The one thing I like about Petersen is that he's there to coach up the coaches. Petersen has been with Smith for 3 seasons now with this being his first as an OC. If Petersen thought Smith would be a good OC after 2 years as a QB coach in Boise, then this is his season to prove it, and he will work his ass off to prove that he was right about hiring Smith last year.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,954
    Smith gets another year ... no reason to really debate this IMO
  • AtomicDawgAtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,234 Standard Supporter
    I think Petersen needs help with the offense. Couldn't run. Couldn't pass. Wrs weren't getting open Didn't do one thing well. Had zero identity. I don't think that smith is the guy to help him. Players are going to lose trust on that side of the ball fast next year if they look like that again in my opinion.

  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,954

    And if true, then it begs the question as to why Petersen made that decision in the first place.

    May have thought that he had a chance to be a really good coordinator. He may still think that.

    It's easy to be a coordinator when everything is working easy and you can push button your calls.

    It's not so easy when you have to learn how to make things work with a giant magnifying glass on you when you don't have the right pieces to make things work.

    Not saying that Smith couldn't have been better this year ... not saying that Petersen made a good/bad hire ... just saying that clearly there were examples this year where Smith probably lacked some seasoning and it showed.
  • WilburHooksHandsWilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804
    jecornel said:

    The offense at Washington sucks.

    Very short; read
  • bananasnblondesbananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,427
    How did Smith do as OC at Montana? This is a serious question. I really don't know and am too lazy to look it up.

    And before the doogman-ish "Montana is not the Pac-12", Chip Kelly at Southern New Hampshire University says STFU
  • whatshouldicareaboutwhatshouldicareabout Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,947 Swaye's Wigwam

    How did Smith do as OC at Montana? This is a serious question. I really don't know and am too lazy to look it up.

    And before the doogman-ish "Montana is not the Pac-12", Chip Kelly at Southern New Hampshire University says STFU

    7-4 in first year, didn't score very much
    11-3 in second year, scored a lot more but died somewhere in the playoffs and was sanctioned for something
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123

    How did Smith do as OC at Montana? This is a serious question. I really don't know and am too lazy to look it up.

    And before the doogman-ish "Montana is not the Pac-12", Chip Kelly at Southern New Hampshire University says STFU

    7-4 in first year, didn't score very much
    11-3 in second year, scored a lot more but died somewhere in the playoffs and was sanctioned for something
    Those are two shitty seasons compared to what Montana normally does. They are a powerhouse in the FCS.
  • CaptainPJCaptainPJ Member Posts: 2,986
    jecornel said:

    The offense at Washington sucks.

    *Christ*

    Thanks again, Captain O
  • puppylove_sugarsteelpuppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
    Tequilla said:

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12127185/josh-heupel-oklahoma-sooners-offensive-coordinator

    Another bad QB costing coordinators their jobs - and in some ways, relevant to the discussion that many are having on Jonathan Smith.

    Having seen Knight play in person this year, he was bad ... although a MASSIVE improvement over Cyler Miles. He struggled with progressions as well accuracy. At times, it made the Oklahoma offense very easy to defend because you would almost dare Knight to throw the ball. Against TCU, he managed to hit 2-3 deep throws (at least 1 was a ridiculous catch by the WR) that accounted for almost all of Oklahoma's offense.

    I know that we talk about different things that OC's can do to make things a little better offensively in bad situations. But the reality is that the QB is the most important position on the football field. If you are getting poor play at that position, it's almost impossible to have anything more than an average offense.

    Gino Torretta disproved that theory 25 years ago. Feel free to add to list.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,954

    Tequilla said:

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12127185/josh-heupel-oklahoma-sooners-offensive-coordinator

    Another bad QB costing coordinators their jobs - and in some ways, relevant to the discussion that many are having on Jonathan Smith.

    Having seen Knight play in person this year, he was bad ... although a MASSIVE improvement over Cyler Miles. He struggled with progressions as well accuracy. At times, it made the Oklahoma offense very easy to defend because you would almost dare Knight to throw the ball. Against TCU, he managed to hit 2-3 deep throws (at least 1 was a ridiculous catch by the WR) that accounted for almost all of Oklahoma's offense.

    I know that we talk about different things that OC's can do to make things a little better offensively in bad situations. But the reality is that the QB is the most important position on the football field. If you are getting poor play at that position, it's almost impossible to have anything more than an average offense.

    Gino Torretta disproved that theory 25 years ago. Feel free to add to list.
    So you are saying that a Heisman Trophy and National Championship winning QB was poor and comparable to Trevor Knight.

    Good news is that there's no way anybody is going to plagiarize that shit from you ... fucktard.
  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,633 Founders Club
    These coaches are too loyal and tend to stick with who they know vs. who might be better. That's what's happening.
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,995
    The QBs blew under Smith/Peterman their last year @ BSU.

    Just saying...
  • HeretoBeatmyChestHeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295

    I still don't get why we have a TE coach when we don't have TE's.

    Yes, out of Ajamu, Daniels, Hartvigson, Perkins and Sample, only Daniels is worth noting and he should be moved back to WR and play him like we did with Stringfellow.

    Have Pease coach TE's too and either demote SmithFS to QB coach and hire an OC or hire a new QB coach.

    While Kwiatkowski is DC, he also coaches DL but we also have Choate coaching that group.

    Smiff is over his fucking head being OC and coaching QB's.

    Paopao, I don't even fucking know what he's doing with our TE's but I like to say out his name because it's pretty cool.

    I heard Popooau is banging a girl I went to grade school with.
  • CanardCanard Member Posts: 504

    I still don't get why we have a TE coach when we don't have TE's.

    Yes, out of Ajamu, Daniels, Hartvigson, Perkins and Sample, only Daniels is worth noting and he should be moved back to WR and play him like we did with Stringfellow.

    Have Pease coach TE's too and either demote SmithFS to QB coach and hire an OC or hire a new QB coach.

    While Kwiatkowski is DC, he also coaches DL but we also have Choate coaching that group.

    Smiff is over his fucking head being OC and coaching QB's.

    Paopao, I don't even fucking know what he's doing with our TE's but I like to say out his name because it's pretty cool.

    I heard Popooau is banging a girl I went to grade school with.
    An assistant coach pounding 65 year old pussy should be immediately fired for a lack of ambition.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,954
    Canard said:

    I still don't get why we have a TE coach when we don't have TE's.

    Yes, out of Ajamu, Daniels, Hartvigson, Perkins and Sample, only Daniels is worth noting and he should be moved back to WR and play him like we did with Stringfellow.

    Have Pease coach TE's too and either demote SmithFS to QB coach and hire an OC or hire a new QB coach.

    While Kwiatkowski is DC, he also coaches DL but we also have Choate coaching that group.

    Smiff is over his fucking head being OC and coaching QB's.

    Paopao, I don't even fucking know what he's doing with our TE's but I like to say out his name because it's pretty cool.

    I heard Popooau is banging a girl I went to grade school with.
    An assistant coach pounding 65 year old pussy should be immediately fired for a lack of ambition.
    Better question/statement would be questioning anybody that would be pounding on Chest's seconds
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