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Upshaw

CuntWaffleCuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
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@MWCherrington: #Washington’s Robert Upshaw is averaging 22.1 points and 9.1 blocks per 40 minutes. Averaging 18.8 minutes per game. Time for that to go up.
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  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,745
    How many fouls per 40?
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  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    dnc said:

    How many fouls per 40?

    I think fouls have only been an issue in two games.
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  • CuntWaffleCuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    RoadDawg55 said:

    dnc said:

    How many fouls per 40?

    I think fouls have only been an issue in two games.
    This. I'm sure it will be an issue again but FT's are his biggest issue right now, fouls aren't anywhere close.
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  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    Upshaw's playing time will keep increasing. He has/had conditioning issues and Romar is taking it kind of slow with him.

    He's only going to get better. He's far exceeded even the doogliest expectations.
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  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    RoadDawg55 said:

    Upshaw's playing time will keep increasing. He has/had conditioning issues and Romar is taking it kind of slow with him.

    He's only going to get better. He's far exceeded even the doogliest expectations.

    At this rate, Upshaw will be a better NBA prospect than NWG.
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  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,745
    ThomasFremont said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    Upshaw's playing time will keep increasing. He has/had conditioning issues and Romar is taking it kind of slow with him.

    He's only going to get better. He's far exceeded even the doogliest expectations.

    At this rate, Upshaw will be a better NBA prospect than NWG.
    I think everyone agrees he's a better NBA prospect than NWG.

    FWIW, Chad Ford's latest top 100 rankings have Upshaw at like #60 and NWG unranked. I think Upshaw will move up quickly. I don't think anyone knows what to do with Goss. He was underrated coming out of HS and will almost certainly be underrated coming out of college as well.
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  • dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    Goss will always be hampered by the fact he isn't elite athletically.
    Upshaw is the better prospect, but there are issues with him. Perhaps he can develop into a Deandre Jordan type.
    Excited to see what Upshaw will be in february
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  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,745
    edited December 2014
    dhdawg said:

    Goss will always be hampered by the fact he isn't elite athletically.
    Upshaw is the better prospect, but there are issues with him. Perhaps he can develop into a Deandre Jordan type.
    Excited to see what Upshaw will be in february

    There's so many possible outcomes for Upshaw's career. He could be out of basketball by May or a lottery pick in June or a hundred things in between. He's the ultimate high ceiling low floor player.
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  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    dnc said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    Upshaw's playing time will keep increasing. He has/had conditioning issues and Romar is taking it kind of slow with him.

    He's only going to get better. He's far exceeded even the doogliest expectations.

    At this rate, Upshaw will be a better NBA prospect than NWG.
    I think everyone agrees he's a better NBA prospect than NWG.

    FWIW, Chad Ford's latest top 100 rankings have Upshaw at like #60 and NWG unranked. I think Upshaw will move up quickly. I don't think anyone knows what to do with Goss. He was underrated coming out of HS and will almost certainly be underrated coming out of college as well.
    Now we all agree. But before the season, Upshaw was nothing but rumor and questions. Whereas Goss had at least proven something on the court.

    Right now Upshaw is improving while Goss looks roughly the same.
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  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    dnc said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    Upshaw's playing time will keep increasing. He has/had conditioning issues and Romar is taking it kind of slow with him.

    He's only going to get better. He's far exceeded even the doogliest expectations.

    At this rate, Upshaw will be a better NBA prospect than NWG.
    I think everyone agrees he's a better NBA prospect than NWG.

    FWIW, Chad Ford's latest top 100 rankings have Upshaw at like #60 and NWG unranked. I think Upshaw will move up quickly. I don't think anyone knows what to do with Goss. He was underrated coming out of HS and will almost certainly be underrated coming out of college as well.
    When is the last time Chad Ford updated those? I don't get NWG not being ranked. CJ Wilcox is a first rounder, but NWG isn't even ranked in the top 100?
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  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,745
    RoadDawg55 said:

    dnc said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    Upshaw's playing time will keep increasing. He has/had conditioning issues and Romar is taking it kind of slow with him.

    He's only going to get better. He's far exceeded even the doogliest expectations.

    At this rate, Upshaw will be a better NBA prospect than NWG.
    I think everyone agrees he's a better NBA prospect than NWG.

    FWIW, Chad Ford's latest top 100 rankings have Upshaw at like #60 and NWG unranked. I think Upshaw will move up quickly. I don't think anyone knows what to do with Goss. He was underrated coming out of HS and will almost certainly be underrated coming out of college as well.
    When is the last time Chad Ford updated those? I don't get NWG not being ranked. CJ Wilcox is a first rounder, but NWG isn't even ranked in the top 100?
    This week I believe.
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  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    RoadDawg55 said:

    dnc said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    Upshaw's playing time will keep increasing. He has/had conditioning issues and Romar is taking it kind of slow with him.

    He's only going to get better. He's far exceeded even the doogliest expectations.

    At this rate, Upshaw will be a better NBA prospect than NWG.
    I think everyone agrees he's a better NBA prospect than NWG.

    FWIW, Chad Ford's latest top 100 rankings have Upshaw at like #60 and NWG unranked. I think Upshaw will move up quickly. I don't think anyone knows what to do with Goss. He was underrated coming out of HS and will almost certainly be underrated coming out of college as well.
    When is the last time Chad Ford updated those? I don't get NWG not being ranked. CJ Wilcox is a first rounder, but NWG isn't even ranked in the top 100?
    Wilcox is an elite shooter. NWG isn't.

    Wilcox has more size.

    Wilcox has more athleticism.

    And Wilcox went 28th. Barely a 1st rounder.

    NWG isn't a 1st rounder as is.
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  • CuntWaffleCuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    NWG isn't an elite athlete but people needs to stop talking about him like he is Steve Blake.
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  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    CuntWaffle said:

    NWG isn't an elite athlete but people needs to stop talking about him like he is Steve Blake.

    Steve Blake can shoot.
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  • CuntWaffleCuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    ThomasFremont said:

    CuntWaffle said:

    NWG isn't an elite athlete but people needs to stop talking about him like he is Steve Blake.

    Steve Blake can shoot.
    Athletically.
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  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    CuntWaffle said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    CuntWaffle said:

    NWG isn't an elite athlete but people needs to stop talking about him like he is Steve Blake.

    Steve Blake can shoot.
    Athletically.
    I know...

    That was me throwing shade on NWG's jump shot.
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  • FreeChavezFreeChavez Member Posts: 3,223
    I think some of you are a bit confused on blake. While the guy isn't athletically gifted vertical wise, he is very quick defensively and a very good player. He's never been flashy, and had one of the ugliest jumpers. That being said, he's much different than NWG defensively, and even as a PG.

    Either way, NWG will always be a guy who is going to have to earn his spot b/c of his lack of elite athleticism. I know we all love NWG, but I could see him going undrafted or in the 2nd round if he left. IT was the last freaking pick of the draft and IT was a very good player at UW. Some guys just never will be the golden children of scouts and gms'. Guys like NWG who succeed at every level will find a way at the nba level, but i still don't think that translates to a high pick regardless of what year he leaves. His situation reminds me of IT as far as draft stock. He isn't going to improve his stock dramatically by staying another two years. All he does is get older. If he really believes in himself, he leaves after this year regardless of draft position.

    Upshaw has a skillset which is rare, even in nba terms. He's still got a long way to go, but a nba team could easily talk themselves into a 7' with his athleticism and ability in the 1st round. His sketchy past may push him to the 2nd round.

    Nbadraftnet has upshaw in the 2nd round, and nwg not even ranked in the top 2. Eventhough I love NWG as a husky fan, I don't think i'd take him as an NBA GM in the draft. I would sign him and see how he did at camps, but I just don't see him as being top 60 player in the nba draft(considering foreign players as well).
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  • FreeChavezFreeChavez Member Posts: 3,223
    CuntWaffle said:

    @MWCherrington: #Washington’s Robert Upshaw is averaging 22.1 points and 9.1 blocks per 40 minutes. Averaging 18.8 minutes per game. Time for that to go up.

    I love these stats acting as if he played 35 minutes a game he'd somehow play at the same pace as the 20-25 he's playing now. Romar is being extremely smart in handling upshaw. Let him get into shape and learn to play a little more as the season goes on. By the pac12, upshaw probably will be up to 27-30 minutes a game barring foul trouble.

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  • doogsinparadisedoogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    Yet Nik fucking Stauskas was picked eighth?
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  • dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    He isn't going to improve his draft stock unless he improves his jumper. If his draft stock is all he's concerned with (which is probably the case) goss is gone, but there are a few kids who do decide to stick around for whatever reason, so it's possible however unlikely
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