Nelson Cruz
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So they should pa Braun 20 million for the sake of paying him 20 million? If they have that much more to spend there are much better alternatives, like John Lester, like Justin Upton, etc.Tequilla said:
The money is only an issue if you're trying to churn out profits or are up against a cap.dhdawg said:They'd also be getting an upgrade at SS albeit slight, miller isn't great by any means. But he at least showed signs of improvement after an horrific stretch from April to May. Outside of a couple months to begin 2013 when Segura played out of his mind he's been awful.
If the mariners were to receive cash in that deal I think it's one that would make sense for all sides.
Miller's wRC+ in 2014 was 20 points higher than Segura's.
You can't justify giving up those 2 prospects for Braun while he's making 20 million, if another team is willing to eat some of that maybe
If you're in a position where you're trying to win the entire thing in a league without a cap, your payroll becomes a little more of a blurred line.
Moreover, the current Mariner ownership is getting older by the years and there have been rumors in recent years of the team going on the market in the future. It would not shock me at all if this is a situation where you have some owners looking at this situation as their last best shot to win a championship. And in the process, winning a championship is good for business as not only will short-term attendance pick up, but so will local/team advertising dollars, TV ratings (including advertising), and in the end franchise value will increase.
Me wanting cash involved is not because I think they should go cheap, but because Braun at this moment is not worth 2 promising young players + 20 million -
Ask yourself these questions:dhdawg said:
So they should pa Braun 20 million for the sake of paying him 20 million? If they have that much more to spend there are much better alternatives, like John Lester, like Justin Upton, etc.Tequilla said:
The money is only an issue if you're trying to churn out profits or are up against a cap.dhdawg said:They'd also be getting an upgrade at SS albeit slight, miller isn't great by any means. But he at least showed signs of improvement after an horrific stretch from April to May. Outside of a couple months to begin 2013 when Segura played out of his mind he's been awful.
If the mariners were to receive cash in that deal I think it's one that would make sense for all sides.
Miller's wRC+ in 2014 was 20 points higher than Segura's.
You can't justify giving up those 2 prospects for Braun while he's making 20 million, if another team is willing to eat some of that maybe
If you're in a position where you're trying to win the entire thing in a league without a cap, your payroll becomes a little more of a blurred line.
Moreover, the current Mariner ownership is getting older by the years and there have been rumors in recent years of the team going on the market in the future. It would not shock me at all if this is a situation where you have some owners looking at this situation as their last best shot to win a championship. And in the process, winning a championship is good for business as not only will short-term attendance pick up, but so will local/team advertising dollars, TV ratings (including advertising), and in the end franchise value will increase.
Me wanting cash involved is not because I think they should go cheap, but because Braun at this moment is not worth 2 promising young players + 20 million
What type of player would be worth 2 promising young players + $20M a year in salary?
How far away is Braun from that player? Is he capable of producing at that level? Has he produced at that level? Is there a reasonable expectation that he could produce that going forward?
You talk about Upton. While from a $$$ standpoint he's a better 1-year alternative. However, he's a free agent after the year, will probably command a $20M+ salary once he reaches free agency (if he reaches it), and in the event he doesn't resign, you're trading 2 players for 1 year instead of with Braun you'd have 5 years of club control (plus an option year).
IF Braun was a top 3 MVP candidate last year, there's probably very little chance that he'd be on the market, and if he was, he'd cost far more than 2 prospects. He's the definition of a buy low, high risk, high reward player if you make the trade. -
Well there's the obvious ones, trout, Posey, lucroy, tulowitzki, Jose Abreu, Félix, etc. the list is limited however.
I never said I'd deal Paxton and miller for Upton, I'd be more inclined to deal them for Braun.
