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First Impressions of the 2014/15 UW Basketball team (Tequila style)
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I would disagree with that in one sense. Jason isn't going to be good at rating kids from all over the nation b/c that's not his niche'. His is PNW. He knows a lot of the kids, coaches, etc and seems to get great info. He's going to miss on player evals like the next guy, but one thing i always appreciate is that he doesn't spout bullshit like AB and the lemon parade to get people to tune into recruiting news. More than once i've seen kem and company try and hold peoples attention on a recruit and jason would say there is no chance. Oddly, never seen him be wrong in those instances.RoadDawg55 said:
Jason had the inside info, but he's incredibly biased to kids from the Northwest. He overrates them.FreeChavez said:
I did find it funny towards the end of my time over there the best poster who gave inside info on recruits and players was Jason Mccleary. He was inside the inner circle and gave solid player evals(unbiased). It was funny that he stopped pooosting towards the end b/c he got tired of bickering with kim and AB who knew about 1/4th as much as he did. If you want some good info on local hoops scene make sure you check jason out at leftcoastrecruiting. He seems like a really good guySevenEleven said:
Beach is a fucking moron and is usually dead wrong about most things- "UW will be the best defensive team in the Pac-12"FreeChavez said:
I've seen AB do a lot of critique of players and he gets many right, and some wrong just like anyone trying to predict a 17 yr old. He just seemed incredibly jaded against Zach and kept going even through his whole year at UCLA. It just seemed oddly not AB for player eval. It just seemed personal. Maybe I read it wrong, b/c usually he's not like that. Just was odd.dnc said:
That must have mostly been during my first exile from DM.c. I remember Beach having some negative things to say about Levine when I came back but they didn't seem like anything more than classic WDWHA stuff. Not saying he didn't have a personal vendetta against the kid, I missed a lot poast purge.FreeChavez said:
Yet I still can't get out of my head how beach railed on Levine. Everyone misses but that one always felt personal from him.dnc said:Gotta hand it to Beach, sounds like he nailed the Dorsey call.
Surprised to hear so much optimism on Winters, he's not a guy I had any expectations for. -
Jason knows his shit, but he's helping kids from the NW get recruited. He pumps them up and over values them. He says Big Sky kids are Pac 12 caliber if he knows them. He is not objective with them at all. It's not a big deal, but I've seen it quite a few times.FreeChavez said:
I would disagree with that in one sense. Jason isn't going to be good at rating kids from all over the nation b/c that's not his niche'. His is PNW. He knows a lot of the kids, coaches, etc and seems to get great info. He's going to miss on player evals like the next guy, but one thing i always appreciate is that he doesn't spout bullshit like AB and the lemon parade to get people to tune into recruiting news. More than once i've seen kem and company try and hold peoples attention on a recruit and jason would say there is no chance. Oddly, never seen him be wrong in those instances.RoadDawg55 said:
Jason had the inside info, but he's incredibly biased to kids from the Northwest. He overrates them.FreeChavez said:
I did find it funny towards the end of my time over there the best poster who gave inside info on recruits and players was Jason Mccleary. He was inside the inner circle and gave solid player evals(unbiased). It was funny that he stopped pooosting towards the end b/c he got tired of bickering with kim and AB who knew about 1/4th as much as he did. If you want some good info on local hoops scene make sure you check jason out at leftcoastrecruiting. He seems like a really good guySevenEleven said:
Beach is a fucking moron and is usually dead wrong about most things- "UW will be the best defensive team in the Pac-12"FreeChavez said:
I've seen AB do a lot of critique of players and he gets many right, and some wrong just like anyone trying to predict a 17 yr old. He just seemed incredibly jaded against Zach and kept going even through his whole year at UCLA. It just seemed oddly not AB for player eval. It just seemed personal. Maybe I read it wrong, b/c usually he's not like that. Just was odd.dnc said:
That must have mostly been during my first exile from DM.c. I remember Beach having some negative things to say about Levine when I came back but they didn't seem like anything more than classic WDWHA stuff. Not saying he didn't have a personal vendetta against the kid, I missed a lot poast purge.FreeChavez said:
Yet I still can't get out of my head how beach railed on Levine. Everyone misses but that one always felt personal from him.dnc said:Gotta hand it to Beach, sounds like he nailed the Dorsey call.
Surprised to hear so much optimism on Winters, he's not a guy I had any expectations for.
Jason is way more dialed in than anyone on that board. Romar actually likes him and sits by him watching games. The board would be better with him as the head of hoops. He knows where kids are going and who they are favoring. Kim and Beach bullshit because they are homers and because they want to drum up interest on their site. -
Oh yeah, he's a fine college PG. But the NBA early entry talk makes me LOL.FreeChavez said:
In the NBA i would agree with you, but not in college. You do not need an elite level of athleticism to create. You need brains, knowing what you're good at, and how to pick your spots. NWG is smart as hell with the basketball and knows how to use his body and pick his spots. What's interesting about a guy like NWG is that he will find a way to score, yet people with immense athletic talent just can't seem to find a way. He will average around 10-14ppg this year, with 6 or 7 assists. He's not flashy, but he gets the job doneThomasFremont said:
Disagree.RoadDawg55 said:NWG could be a #1 scoring option. He was pretty good last year and looks like a lead guard to me. After that, there really aren't any top caliber players.
The idea of Jarreau is better than he actually is. He has never looked like he had a great handle or was a great passer despite all the talk of him being highly skilled. I heard he has bulked up, but as a freshman he is a skinny, soft big guy with a decent jumper who sucks finishing around the basket. Then last year he had one good game against Central and tore his ACL. At this point, I would expect to be disappointed.
No outside shot, and lacks elite level athleticism to create.
CJ wilcox was one of the most athletic guys we've seen in years and the guy was baring on scared to go inside the key. -
Jason is never, ever wrong about where a kid is going. He's kind of their IrIshDawg22 - he has that shit dialed in.FreeChavez said:
I would disagree with that in one sense. Jason isn't going to be good at rating kids from all over the nation b/c that's not his niche'. His is PNW. He knows a lot of the kids, coaches, etc and seems to get great info. He's going to miss on player evals like the next guy, but one thing i always appreciate is that he doesn't spout bullshit like AB and the lemon parade to get people to tune into recruiting news. More than once i've seen kem and company try and hold peoples attention on a recruit and jason would say there is no chance. Oddly, never seen him be wrong in those instances.RoadDawg55 said:
Jason had the inside info, but he's incredibly biased to kids from the Northwest. He overrates them.FreeChavez said:
I did find it funny towards the end of my time over there the best poster who gave inside info on recruits and players was Jason Mccleary. He was inside the inner circle and gave solid player evals(unbiased). It was funny that he stopped pooosting towards the end b/c he got tired of bickering with kim and AB who knew about 1/4th as much as he did. If you want some good info on local hoops scene make sure you check jason out at leftcoastrecruiting. He seems like a really good guySevenEleven said:
Beach is a fucking moron and is usually dead wrong about most things- "UW will be the best defensive team in the Pac-12"FreeChavez said:
I've seen AB do a lot of critique of players and he gets many right, and some wrong just like anyone trying to predict a 17 yr old. He just seemed incredibly jaded against Zach and kept going even through his whole year at UCLA. It just seemed oddly not AB for player eval. It just seemed personal. Maybe I read it wrong, b/c usually he's not like that. Just was odd.dnc said:
That must have mostly been during my first exile from DM.c. I remember Beach having some negative things to say about Levine when I came back but they didn't seem like anything more than classic WDWHA stuff. Not saying he didn't have a personal vendetta against the kid, I missed a lot poast purge.FreeChavez said:
Yet I still can't get out of my head how beach railed on Levine. Everyone misses but that one always felt personal from him.dnc said:Gotta hand it to Beach, sounds like he nailed the Dorsey call.
Surprised to hear so much optimism on Winters, he's not a guy I had any expectations for.
He's often wrong about how good a kid is going to be. He overinflates the values of basically all the NW kids, as RoadDawg says. The difference is he's overrating them because he's trying to help the kids, not because he's trying to get another click. Kim should hire him but he won't because he prefers people he can cuntrol, and he would never be able to cuntrol Jason.
