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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,270
    The player leadership is obviously a big miss ... it's amazing how few leaders we have in this team. But it is what it is. That's not changing in the offseason either. That's changing when guys with leadership traits (your standard OKG) become upperclassmen and the dominant voices on the team. We're not there yet.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,270

    Tequilla said:

    The player leadership is obviously a big miss ... it's amazing how few leaders we have in this team. But it is what it is. That's not changing in the offseason either. That's changing when guys with leadership traits (your standard OKG) become upperclassmen and the dominant voices on the team. We're not there yet.

    Derek, who is pretty good at interviewing players and should stick to that, can tell you that the 1989 class came in and took over as underclassmen and changed the culture. It can happen
    And for that to happen, it normally requires them owning the starting lineup as well.

    We're probably another class or two away from being able to say that.
  • LaZoris
    LaZoris Member Posts: 1,734 Standard Supporter
    Miles fucking sucks. Enough said on that. Outside of Oregon's 3 n out they converted almost EVERY 3rd or 4th down conversion to keep the chains moving. Just a pathetic showing on defense. That 99 yd TD drive was pathetic to watch. As stated above - Game was over after that drive.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,778

    Not to go super doogish and pull the "We are all Dawgs and want the same thing", but we are all sick of bad football. This sucks. I don't give a fuck about who plays QB. I don't give a fuck about being right or wrong with my opinions and thoughts on the players and coaches. I want to win, and I don't want to have to wait 3 years and always talk about next year.

    Maybe show some class, though.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 70,330 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    The player leadership is obviously a big miss ... it's amazing how few leaders we have in this team. But it is what it is. That's not changing in the offseason either. That's changing when guys with leadership traits (your standard OKG) become upperclassmen and the dominant voices on the team. We're not there yet.

    Derek, who is pretty good at interviewing players and should stick to that, can tell you that the 1989 class came in and took over as underclassmen and changed the culture. It can happen
    And for that to happen, it normally requires them owning the starting lineup as well.

    We're probably another class or two away from being able to say that.
    Actually, that isn't true, they didn't own the starting lineup at all. While writing that book with Dave Hoffmann, he told me stories of how the redshirt freshmen classes of '88 was a pain in the sides of Don James and Lambo. They went after the starters in practic and tried to own them. Emtman didn't become a starter until late in the '89 season, I believe.
  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,842

    Agree on the team being leaderless. Sort of reminds of 1997. The team isn't as talented at that one, but there are some good individuals who can't lead when things go south. The QB really needs to be a leader. The offseason attempted beatdown of the 12s speaks volumes about Miles leadership ability. Peters acting like a cunty bitch after getting a dumbshit penalty tells the defensive backfield is leaderless. I would say this team isn't a whole lot worse in terms of talent than the 2000 team. The difference is 2000 had leaders, not guys who fold in the heat of the battle.

    This.

    The answer is always sitting on the bench.

    Through those three weeks, Holiday took all kinds of criticism from media reporters to alumni to fans and even students. Shirts popped up that said “The Holiday is over” on the front and “Quinn to Win” on the back.

    Nothing changed.