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Cyler Miles is a noodle armed QB that is rumored to be able to run but suffers from severe brain lock and has obviously been coached to not use his best asset, his legs
Nearly everything Miles does as a QB is wrong, his mechanics are horrible, he gets brain lock, he is nonathletic when scrambling out of the pocket, drops his eyes, and he doesnt set his feet properly after play action or when rolling out. This guy has obviously never been actually taught anything other than just be athletic and do "stuff". To be fair Miles has done a decent job limiting turnovers and is decent at the option read.
Miles suffers from the deadly combo of shitty previous coaching, mediocre skill and a new scheme that has obviously coached him to only run as a absolute last resort. The coaches need to realize that Miles not running is the worst QB in the pac12. They need to change the scheme completely. If Miles gets hurt WGAF, plug in the next bad QB and run him too. Miles failure so far lies with everybody, Sark, Miles, and Chris Petermen. (experienced readers will note that blaming assistant coaches for huge failures like correctly using a starting QB is fucking stupid).
Jeff Lindquist is an inaccurate QB in the mold of RonnieRainbow and Hannah Montanas brother. Is he really that much worse than a non-running Miles? I don’t think so.
Lindquist is Lindquist, a career Pac12 backup QB with little to offer, future Tulane starting QB
Troy Williams is a relative unknown at this point; he appeared to actually want to play football against the Ducks and threw with some zip on the ball. Williams has a decently quick release and his mechanics aren't completely FS. That is better than Miles or Lindquist. Williams provides the most upside, we know what Miles and Lindquist are going to give us and its not ever going to be good enough.
Future: Miles really doesnt look like a guy who is going to improve enough. We should move forward with Williams NOW. There will be a few growing pains and turnovers but an anemic 3 and out offense with a QB that clearly isnt going to develop into what we need is worse. I expect Lindquist to transfer away this offseason. With KJ Karta Samuels and Jake Browning this group just needs time to develop the raw talent that is there.
Nearly everything Miles does as a QB is wrong, his mechanics are horrible, he gets brain lock, he is nonathletic when scrambling out of the pocket, drops his eyes, and he doesnt set his feet properly after play action or when rolling out. This guy has obviously never been actually taught anything other than just be athletic and do "stuff". To be fair Miles has done a decent job limiting turnovers and is decent at the option read.
Miles suffers from the deadly combo of shitty previous coaching, mediocre skill and a new scheme that has obviously coached him to only run as a absolute last resort. The coaches need to realize that Miles not running is the worst QB in the pac12. They need to change the scheme completely. If Miles gets hurt WGAF, plug in the next bad QB and run him too. Miles failure so far lies with everybody, Sark, Miles, and Chris Petermen. (experienced readers will note that blaming assistant coaches for huge failures like correctly using a starting QB is fucking stupid).
Jeff Lindquist is an inaccurate QB in the mold of RonnieRainbow and Hannah Montanas brother. Is he really that much worse than a non-running Miles? I don’t think so.
Lindquist is Lindquist, a career Pac12 backup QB with little to offer, future Tulane starting QB
Troy Williams is a relative unknown at this point; he appeared to actually want to play football against the Ducks and threw with some zip on the ball. Williams has a decently quick release and his mechanics aren't completely FS. That is better than Miles or Lindquist. Williams provides the most upside, we know what Miles and Lindquist are going to give us and its not ever going to be good enough.
Future: Miles really doesnt look like a guy who is going to improve enough. We should move forward with Williams NOW. There will be a few growing pains and turnovers but an anemic 3 and out offense with a QB that clearly isnt going to develop into what we need is worse. I expect Lindquist to transfer away this offseason. With KJ Karta Samuels and Jake Browning this group just needs time to develop the raw talent that is there.
Comments
Miles does not throw with anticipation... unlikely he ever will. Slick rick didn't offer at UCLA because of his throwing mechanics... sark recruited him based on stars.
Cyler looks like a 10 year old contorting his body trying to heave a weighted football.
Neither will survive with Shelton, Atoe and Tanigawa letting unblocked rushers through the line.
Sark is better at developing QBs
*not my real take, but watch this meme take hold soon,
Miles is mediocre to bad in every aspect of playing QB. Even his speed is highly overrated.
I'd rate Miles in the bottom 1/4 of the Pac as far as QBs go, and by your RS Sophomore year that's probably as good as you're going to be. With what we see from Miles, no thank you. I hesitate to lay blame right now on Jonathon Smith because it's so obvious that Miles isn't a serviceable QB at the Pac level.
Besides on-field issues you have the off-field crap with String (who?), and the rep of being a weed fanatic. Allegedly. Roll the dice with Troy Williams and always bet on black.
I didn't see him in fall ball but remember liking his high-school throwing motion and he looked liked the most natural QB on the roster when I watched him in the spring game.
He also is a much better runner than Miles. Better vision, better instincts, better acceleration, and better speed. He also has a strong arm and got his feet wet throwing the ball 10 times and running 5 times yesterday (nice TD run).
StanbackWilliams.