Push up the Middle and Heat...you get it.
The improved performance of Miles was nice, but remember that the coogs set an NCAA record against the cal defense.
But the D-line's performance is much more exciting. If this game was a sign of things to come...if we can generate that kind of Heat and Push, then I think this team will turn a corner. It's no secret - you win games by causing the opposing QBs to feel uneasy, which causes more premature passes and errant throws. Disrupting backfields is invaluable - get into their backfield before they can carry out their plays.
It's The Formula for winning: PUTMHFTE.
Yah, water is wet.
Comments
-
thanks. i'm keeping all that in mind.
yes, water is wet. I agree.
scoring touch downs helps win games too! -
The difference is the push up the middle. Shelton has been unleashed. The other guys playing inside are getting it too.
UW has had decent rush off the edge before, including most of the last 5 years or so. It's nearly useless if someone isn't causing some havoc in the middle though.
Shelton is this team's MVP so far and I don't think it's even close. Maybe that's a "water is wet" statement too. -
Shelton will be missed. Let's not forget that this is the guy who chased down and beat the ever living shit out of the guy who had a gun and shot his brother. He's the fucking man. One of my all-time favorite Huskies.
-
I love Shelton, but Kikaha will be the toughest guy for the team to replace next year.Gladstone said:Shelton will be missed. Let's not forget that this is the guy who chased down and beat the ever living shit out of the guy who had a gun and shot his brother. He's the fucking man. One of my all-time favorite Huskies.
-
I'll make the argument for Peters.RoadDawg55 said:
I love Shelton, but Kikaha will be the toughest guy for the team to replace next year.Gladstone said:Shelton will be missed. Let's not forget that this is the guy who chased down and beat the ever living shit out of the guy who had a gun and shot his brother. He's the fucking man. One of my all-time favorite Huskies.
He removes a receiver from the offense each time he's out there. He nullified Montgomery on offense, whose biggest play was running a fly-sweep away from Peters. He has three INTs on the year and the two against Georgia State helped prevent further embarrassment. Without Peters, our defense gave up big plays to EWU and Illinois. Yes, it's true he got beat deep against EWU to start, but that's largely because he thought he had safety help over the top and King was late. -
I don't get it. What are you saying, exactly?
-
The young DB's are good though. Jones, Baker, and King all should continue to get better. Hale has looked good in limited time. Kelly only played the first two games when everyone struggled. We don't have another true pass rusher and Kikaha is an All American type. It's just my opinion, but Kikaha types are the most valuable defensive players in college football. I feel better about the depth and options at DT, LB (Shaq), and CB than DE/OLB.whatshouldicareabout said:
I'll make the argument for Peters.RoadDawg55 said:
I love Shelton, but Kikaha will be the toughest guy for the team to replace next year.Gladstone said:Shelton will be missed. Let's not forget that this is the guy who chased down and beat the ever living shit out of the guy who had a gun and shot his brother. He's the fucking man. One of my all-time favorite Huskies.
He removes a receiver from the offense each time he's out there. He nullified Montgomery on offense, whose biggest play was running a fly-sweep away from Peters. He has three INTs on the year and the two against Georgia State helped prevent further embarrassment. Without Peters, our defense gave up big plays to EWU and Illinois. Yes, it's true he got beat deep against EWU to start, but that's largely because he thought he had safety help over the top and King was late. -
Agree on the relative value of Peters, really disagree about Shelton vs Kikaha. Shelton is the best player on this team. There's plenty of edge rushers out there, but that kind of pass rush from the middle is basically unheard of.RoadDawg55 said:
The young DB's are good though. Jones, Baker, and King all should continue to get better. Hale has looked good in limited time. Kelly only played the first two games when everyone struggled. We don't have another true pass rusher and Kikaha is an All American type. It's just my opinion, but Kikaha types are the most valuable defensive players in college football. I feel better about the depth and options at DT, LB (Shaq), and CB than DE/OLB.whatshouldicareabout said:
I'll make the argument for Peters.RoadDawg55 said:
I love Shelton, but Kikaha will be the toughest guy for the team to replace next year.Gladstone said:Shelton will be missed. Let's not forget that this is the guy who chased down and beat the ever living shit out of the guy who had a gun and shot his brother. He's the fucking man. One of my all-time favorite Huskies.
He removes a receiver from the offense each time he's out there. He nullified Montgomery on offense, whose biggest play was running a fly-sweep away from Peters. He has three INTs on the year and the two against Georgia State helped prevent further embarrassment. Without Peters, our defense gave up big plays to EWU and Illinois. Yes, it's true he got beat deep against EWU to start, but that's largely because he thought he had safety help over the top and King was late.
-
Peters was targeted like 2 or 3 times total in the Cal game. It's a pretty good sign when one of the corners is rarely seen on camera. I'd say he's doing his job.
Kinda hard to imagine the defense not taking a big step backward next season with 4 guys likely being high draft picks. It's a good test for the staff. -
I love Marcus Peters, he's my favorite player on the team, total MKG. But what Shelton's doing is crazy.chuck said:Peters was targeted like 2 or 3 times total in the Cal game. It's a pretty good sign when one of the corners is rarely seen on camera. I'd say he's doing his job.
Kinda hard to imagine the defense not taking a big step backward next season with 4 guys likely being high draft picks. It's a good test for the staff.
-
All 4 are great. The All American hype we all laughed at doesn't look very far fetched. Shaq because of his hype and defensive TD's is probably a lock.chuck said:Peters was targeted like 2 or 3 times total in the Cal game. It's a pretty good sign when one of the corners is rarely seen on camera. I'd say he's doing his job.
Kinda hard to imagine the defense not taking a big step backward next season with 4 guys likely being high draft picks. It's a good test for the staff. -
Agree with everything you've said in this thread. Edge rushers are easier to replace. A solid interior DT who plugs the line and makes a few stops is hard enough to replace, but one who wreaks havoc like Shelton comes along once a decade at best.dnc said:
I love Marcus Peters, he's my favorite player on the team total MKG. But what Shelton's doing is crazy.chuck said:Peters was targeted like 2 or 3 times total in the Cal game. It's a pretty good sign when one of the corners is rarely seen on camera. I'd say he's doing his job.
Kinda hard to imagine the defense not taking a big step backward next season with 4 guys likely being high draft picks. It's a good test for the staff. -
Its a tough call because Shelton is the bigger loss but we have natural replacements there immediately with Qualls and Vea. Not sure how Dissly, Mathis and McGary will do replacing Kikaha.
-
It's funny to think that, of the four stars on the team, the guy with the most hype and four defensive TDs is the one UW can most afford to lose. I think it's true though.RoadDawg55 said:
All 4 are great. The All American hype we all laughed at doesn't look very far fetched. Shaq because of his hype and defensive TD's is probably a lock.chuck said:Peters was targeted like 2 or 3 times total in the Cal game. It's a pretty good sign when one of the corners is rarely seen on camera. I'd say he's doing his job.
Kinda hard to imagine the defense not taking a big step backward next season with 4 guys likely being high draft picks. It's a good test for the staff.
-
Fucking church school program scared away future heisman winning QB sacker Farria. Thanks coach. Not saying it's anyones fault but Tosh would have kept him here and Tosh loved UW. Don't twist.HeretoBeatmyChest said:Its a tough call because Shelton is the bigger loss but we have natural replacements there immediately with Qualls and Vea. Not sure how Dissly, Mathis and McGary will do replacing Kikaha.
-
We haven't had a true full time disruptor in the middle since Triplett. That alone should tell you how rare it is to find guys like Shelton. Kikaha is a beast, but Danny sucking up double and triple teams helps free up the other guys tremendously.
Could be argued all day, but everyone is right about one thing...Kikaha and Shelton are two of the 3 best DL we have had in a decade or more, on the team, in their primes, at the same time. We won't replace that anytime soon. I hope to see them meet at Mariota this weekend and break him in half. -
As long as he's not returning a kickoffGladstone said:Shelton will be missed. Let's not forget that this is the guy who chased down and beat the ever living shit out of the guy who had a gun and shot his brother. He's the fucking man. One of my all-time favorite Huskies.
