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  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    haie said:

    After watching the game I have a hard time thinking Stanford is that good. Sure they will win 8 or 9 games but they will lose their share of games in conference.

    I think we are destined to win 3 or 4 conference games. Petersen gets paid a boat load of money to figure it out but so far he hasn't. It's like watching rick when he took over for Lambo. Rick scrapped everything and said what the fuck can we do when they were 0-2 ans they adapted their entire offense to the talent they had.
    I really think we should run our qb a shitload of times because we sure as he'll can't throw vs a decent defense. But I leave that to Pete to figure out.

    I agree about the offense. I have seen QB's like Miles win, but they aren't in offenses that rely on downfield passing and going through progressions. Once Stanford shut down the running game in the second half, it was all over. Colin Klein at Kansas State comes to mind. He couldn't throw for shit and wasn't a blazing fast runner, but he was efficient. I hope they tailor the offense more to Miles' strengths.
    They may as well just start running the fucking option.
    PGOS has been honking that horn for days. I don't think it's a bad idea.
    Go back & watch the triple option out of pistol in the 3rd quarter. One of the few bright points.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,011
    Sorry...hadn't been on the boards and I'll probably start a shitstorm by posting this but there is no way anyone can say we have the same amount of talent as when Sark started. There are holes, but we have 3 guys on defense that will go in the first 2 rounds of the draft next year, an OL (Charles) and some WRs that will play in the pros, and we don't have a walk-on safety or walk-on want-to-be rapper OG.

    That said, there is no way this team is only winning 5 games like Sark's first year, or only 7 games next year like the rest of Sark's career. Its a big step up to go from 4-5 wins to 7-8 wins, and its another big step up to go to 9-10 wins, and its an even bigger jump for that final step up. We should hit the 9-10 win level this year and end up barely ranked and I haven't seen anything yet that convinces me otherwise.

    Its apple and oranges...Sark provided with his tenure and what we see in our QB and OL depth that he wasn't the guy to make the last couple of jumps...I hope Peterman is. Roaddawg's numbers are good...we've seen this kind of performance before from Sark QBs, and the only difference is that we almost won this game instead of losing by 40.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited September 2014

    Sorry...hadn't been on the boards and I'll probably start a shitstorm by posting this but there is no way anyone can say we have the same amount of talent as when Sark started. There are holes, but we have 3 guys on defense that will go in the first 2 rounds of the draft next year, an OL (Charles) and some WRs that will play in the pros, and we don't have a walk-on safety or walk-on want-to-be rapper OG.

    That said, there is no way this team is only winning 5 games like Sark's first year, or only 7 games next year like the rest of Sark's career. Its a big step up to go from 4-5 wins to 7-8 wins, and its another big step up to go to 9-10 wins, and its an even bigger jump for that final step up. We should hit the 9-10 win level this year and end up barely ranked and I haven't seen anything yet that convinces me otherwise.

    Its apple and oranges...Sark provided with his tenure and what we see in our QB and OL depth that he wasn't the guy to make the last couple of jumps...I hope Peterman is. Roaddawg's numbers are good...we've seen this kind of performance before from Sark QBs, and the only difference is that we almost won this game instead of losing by 40.

    Disagree -

    1. Go down the list of 2009 starters vs 2014 starters. You find a mixed bag. Overall 2009 has a bit of on edge on offense, 2014 has the edge on defense. Overall the difference isn't drastic.

    2. Of course this team will win more than 2009 and 2010. Mostly because of a 13 game schedule and the front loaded dreckfest of teams. The first five games in 2009 were:

    LSU
    Idaho
    USC
    Stanford
    Notre Dame

    The 2009 team started 2-3. The 2014 team would fair no better.

    The first 5 games of 2010 were:

    BYU
    Syracuse
    Nebraska
    USC
    ASU

    The 2010 team started 2-3. The 2014 team would fair no better.

    2009 and 2010 would both be 4-1 with the 2014 schedule.

    Point is, Sark didn't leave the cupboard really any more stocked than when he arrived.

    We measured Sark by his conference record. We should use the same standard. 4-5 and 5-4. This team looks on par with that. The preseason scrimmage wins should not cloud the truth.

    http://hardcorehusky.com/forums/#/discussion/13144/a-q-for-the-board
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,541 Founders Club

    Sorry...hadn't been on the boards and I'll probably start a shitstorm by posting this but there is no way anyone can say we have the same amount of talent as when Sark started. There are holes, but we have 3 guys on defense that will go in the first 2 rounds of the draft next year, an OL (Charles) and some WRs that will play in the pros, and we don't have a walk-on safety or walk-on want-to-be rapper OG.

    That said, there is no way this team is only winning 5 games like Sark's first year, or only 7 games next year like the rest of Sark's career. Its a big step up to go from 4-5 wins to 7-8 wins, and its another big step up to go to 9-10 wins, and its an even bigger jump for that final step up. We should hit the 9-10 win level this year and end up barely ranked and I haven't seen anything yet that convinces me otherwise.

    Its apple and oranges...Sark provided with his tenure and what we see in our QB and OL depth that he wasn't the guy to make the last couple of jumps...I hope Peterman is. Roaddawg's numbers are good...we've seen this kind of performance before from Sark QBs, and the only difference is that we almost won this game instead of losing by 40.

    Disagree -

    1. Go down the list of 2009 starters vs 2014 starters. You find a mixed bag. Overall 2009 has a bit of on edge on offense, 2014 has the edge on defense. Overall the difference isn't drastic.

    2. Of course this team will win more than 2009 and 2010. Mostly because of a 13 game schedule and the front loaded dreckfest of teams. The first five games in 2009 were:

    LSU
    Idaho
    USC
    Stanford
    Notre Dame

    The 2009 team started 2-3. The 2014 team would fair no better.

    The first 5 games of 2010 were:

    BYU
    Syracuse
    Nebraska
    USC
    ASU

    The 2010 team started 2-3. The 2014 team would fair no better.

    2009 and 2010 would both be 4-1 with the 2014 schedule.

    Point is, Sark didn't leave the cupboard really any more stocked than when he arrived.

    We measured Sark by his conference record. We should use the same standard. 4-5 and 5-4. This team looks on par with that. The preseason scrimmage wins should not cloud the truth.

    http://hardcorehusky.com/forums/#/discussion/13144/a-q-for-the-board
    Bolded for OBK fucking stupid
  • The_Undertaker
    The_Undertaker Member Posts: 521
    edited September 2014
    The thing is Stanford offense is sound but doesn't score that many points. Oir defense had an incredible game with a high number of key turnovers. The score is a bit misleading. What are we gonna do when we play better PAC 12 offenses? These teams score a TD on every other drive. How are we gonna answer that?

    We are Stanford with Nunes. Every coach is gonna stack the box and dare Miles to beat them with his arm, which he can't do. LIPO but 4 or 5 conference wins sounds optimistic at this point to me.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Sorry...hadn't been on the boards and I'll probably start a shitstorm by posting this but there is no way anyone can say we have the same amount of talent as when Sark started. There are holes, but we have 3 guys on defense that will go in the first 2 rounds of the draft next year, an OL (Charles) and some WRs that will play in the pros, and we don't have a walk-on safety or walk-on want-to-be rapper OG.

    That said, there is no way this team is only winning 5 games like Sark's first year, or only 7 games next year like the rest of Sark's career. Its a big step up to go from 4-5 wins to 7-8 wins, and its another big step up to go to 9-10 wins, and its an even bigger jump for that final step up. We should hit the 9-10 win level this year and end up barely ranked and I haven't seen anything yet that convinces me otherwise.

    Its apple and oranges...Sark provided with his tenure and what we see in our QB and OL depth that he wasn't the guy to make the last couple of jumps...I hope Peterman is. Roaddawg's numbers are good...we've seen this kind of performance before from Sark QBs, and the only difference is that we almost won this game instead of losing by 40.

    Disagree -

    1. Go down the list of 2009 starters vs 2014 starters. You find a mixed bag. Overall 2009 has a bit of on edge on offense, 2014 has the edge on defense. Overall the difference isn't drastic.

    2. Of course this team will win more than 2009 and 2010. Mostly because of a 13 game schedule and the front loaded dreckfest of teams. The first five games in 2009 were:

    LSU
    Idaho
    USC
    Stanford
    Notre Dame

    The 2009 team started 2-3. The 2014 team would fair no better.

    The first 5 games of 2010 were:

    BYU
    Syracuse
    Nebraska
    USC
    ASU

    The 2010 team started 2-3. The 2014 team would fair no better.

    2009 and 2010 would both be 4-1 with the 2014 schedule.

    Point is, Sark didn't leave the cupboard really any more stocked than when he arrived.

    We measured Sark by his conference record. We should use the same standard. 4-5 and 5-4. This team looks on par with that. The preseason scrimmage wins should not cloud the truth.

    http://hardcorehusky.com/forums/#/discussion/13144/a-q-for-the-board
    Bolded for OBK fucking stupid
    Why? Help me out, I'm slow.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,541 Founders Club
    He claims we always play the current cupcake schedule

    And they played Michigan Fucking State!!!1111!!!
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    He claims we always play the current cupcake schedule

    And they played Michigan Fucking State!!!1111!!!

    Ah...I see.

    When comparing apples to apples, talent wise, Sark left Petersen in only a marginally better place then TW left him. Fuck that narrative that Sark was anything more than average..at anything. (expect flapping his pie hole)
  • RaccoonHarry
    RaccoonHarry Member Posts: 2,161

    Sorry...hadn't been on the boards and I'll probably start a shitstorm by posting this but there is no way anyone can say we have the same amount of talent as when Sark started. There are holes, but we have 3 guys on defense that will go in the first 2 rounds of the draft next year, an OL (Charles) and some WRs that will play in the pros, and we don't have a walk-on safety or walk-on want-to-be rapper OG.

    That said, there is no way this team is only winning 5 games like Sark's first year, or only 7 games next year like the rest of Sark's career. Its a big step up to go from 4-5 wins to 7-8 wins, and its another big step up to go to 9-10 wins, and its an even bigger jump for that final step up. We should hit the 9-10 win level this year and end up barely ranked and I haven't seen anything yet that convinces me otherwise.

    Its apple and oranges...Sark provided with his tenure and what we see in our QB and OL depth that he wasn't the guy to make the last couple of jumps...I hope Peterman is. Roaddawg's numbers are good...we've seen this kind of performance before from Sark QBs, and the only difference is that we almost won this game instead of losing by 40.

    Disagree -

    1. Go down the list of 2009 starters vs 2014 starters. You find a mixed bag. Overall 2009 has a bit of on edge on offense, 2014 has the edge on defense. Overall the difference isn't drastic.

    2. Of course this team will win more than 2009 and 2010. Mostly because of a 13 game schedule and the front loaded dreckfest of teams. The first five games in 2009 were:

    LSU
    Idaho
    USC
    Stanford
    Notre Dame

    The 2009 team started 2-3. The 2014 team would fair no better.

    The first 5 games of 2010 were:

    BYU
    Syracuse
    Nebraska
    USC
    ASU

    The 2010 team started 2-3. The 2014 team would fair no better.

    2009 and 2010 would both be 4-1 with the 2014 schedule.

    Point is, Sark didn't leave the cupboard really any more stocked than when he arrived.

    We measured Sark by his conference record. We should use the same standard. 4-5 and 5-4. This team looks on par with that. The preseason scrimmage wins should not cloud the truth.

    http://hardcorehusky.com/forums/#/discussion/13144/a-q-for-the-board
    Fare
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Sorry...hadn't been on the boards and I'll probably start a shitstorm by posting this but there is no way anyone can say we have the same amount of talent as when Sark started. There are holes, but we have 3 guys on defense that will go in the first 2 rounds of the draft next year, an OL (Charles) and some WRs that will play in the pros, and we don't have a walk-on safety or walk-on want-to-be rapper OG.

    That said, there is no way this team is only winning 5 games like Sark's first year, or only 7 games next year like the rest of Sark's career. Its a big step up to go from 4-5 wins to 7-8 wins, and its another big step up to go to 9-10 wins, and its an even bigger jump for that final step up. We should hit the 9-10 win level this year and end up barely ranked and I haven't seen anything yet that convinces me otherwise.

    Its apple and oranges...Sark provided with his tenure and what we see in our QB and OL depth that he wasn't the guy to make the last couple of jumps...I hope Peterman is. Roaddawg's numbers are good...we've seen this kind of performance before from Sark QBs, and the only difference is that we almost won this game instead of losing by 40.

    Disagree -

    1. Go down the list of 2009 starters vs 2014 starters. You find a mixed bag. Overall 2009 has a bit of on edge on offense, 2014 has the edge on defense. Overall the difference isn't drastic.

    2. Of course this team will win more than 2009 and 2010. Mostly because of a 13 game schedule and the front loaded dreckfest of teams. The first five games in 2009 were:

    LSU
    Idaho
    USC
    Stanford
    Notre Dame

    The 2009 team started 2-3. The 2014 team would fair no better.

    The first 5 games of 2010 were:

    BYU
    Syracuse
    Nebraska
    USC
    ASU

    The 2010 team started 2-3. The 2014 team would fair no better.

    2009 and 2010 would both be 4-1 with the 2014 schedule.

    Point is, Sark didn't leave the cupboard really any more stocked than when he arrived.

    We measured Sark by his conference record. We should use the same standard. 4-5 and 5-4. This team looks on par with that. The preseason scrimmage wins should not cloud the truth.

    http://hardcorehusky.com/forums/#/discussion/13144/a-q-for-the-board
    Fare
    I never claimed to be a journalist.

    I suck at homophones.