Why would UCLA want Fisch?
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Well we have a coach that can go 9-3 losing to Ohio State Michigan and Oregon already
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Petersen would lobby for UW to hire Franklin if it was open and Franklin would have taken that job over every other that was offered to him.
He might be a pretty good fit for Washington's culture with OKG shit, but his offenses have sucked too hard for too long, although I think what did him in at PSU was this blind loyalty to Allar and forcing him in the offense.
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He's had the same quarterback for years
The name changes but it's the same guy
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simple AI
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Penn State has a consistent history of strong offensive play, particularly in recent years with players like Saquon Barkley and Jahan Dotson.While there have been some struggles, the team has shown a significant improvement in offensive rankings over the last decade.”
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Clearly, I don't live in a data-informed world.
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I mean with the offensive genius calling plays and the “Big 3” Washington scores 6,7 and 13 against Ohio State, Michigan and Wisconsin. Throw Oregon in that mix and possibly UCLA at the Rose Bowl were they will blizt the shit out of this weak ass O-Line and Washington averages around 7 points per game against some of the decent defensive teams on the Big 10
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Franklin also hired John Donovan and whatever dipshit that is currently their OC. He’s a CEO type that needs to get his hires right or he’s fucked. That is somewhat true for all coaches, but with some it’s more important than others.
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Exactly this. As much as I hate Jedd right now I think he already has the program to a place where they are mostly winning the games they should against Big 10 drek, never beating Ohio State or Oregon or Indiana or whatever program is A level that year and then still dropping 1-2 games a year that you shouldn't.
Talking recruiting, I think Judd would be at a high level at a place like Penn State in a location like they are and Franklin would be lower at UW.
We want big swings.
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I don’t get the misconception of Penn State football around here. I know they kicked the shit out of Washington but still
“Before James Franklin took over in 2014, Penn State’s recruiting history was shaped by Joe Paterno’s long tenure and the transitional years under Bill O’Brien. Paterno emphasized regional recruiting with a focus on Pennsylvania and the Northeast, while O’Brien (2012–2013) had to rebuild amid NCAA sanctions, relying on overlooked prospects and transfers rather than top national classes.”- Joe Paterno Era (1966–2011)
• Regional dominance: Paterno built his rosters by recruiting heavily from Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Maryland.
• Philosophy: He valued character and academics as much as athletic ability, often prioritizing “program fit” over chasing national stars.
• Results:• Penn State regularly landed top in-state talent, producing NFL players like Kerry Collins, LaVar Arrington, and Paul Posluszny.
• Recruiting classes were strong but not always nationally elite, as Paterno resisted the shift toward recruiting services and social media hype.• Challenges late in tenure: By the 2000s, Penn State struggled to keep pace with programs like Ohio State and SEC schools that aggressively pursued national recruits.
- Bill O’Brien Era (2012–2013)
• Context: O’Brien inherited the program after the Sandusky scandal and NCAA sanctions (scholarship reductions, bowl bans).
• Recruiting impact:• Penn State’s classes ranked lower nationally due to scholarship limits.
• O’Brien focused on finding undervalued prospects and keeping existing players from transferring.
• Despite restrictions, he landed notable recruits like Christian Hackenberg (QB, 5-star), who became the centerpiece of his offense.• Legacy: O’Brien stabilized the program and proved Penn State could still attract talent even under sanctions, setting the stage for Franklin’s broader recruiting reach.
- Recruiting Trends Pre-Franklin
• Strengths:• Strong pipeline from Pennsylvania high schools (e.g., Pittsburgh Central Catholic, Bishop McDevitt).
• Consistent production of linebackers (“Linebacker U”) and offensive linemen.• Weaknesses:• Limited national footprint compared to SEC powers.
• Sanctions and late-career Paterno recruiting struggles -
@ WoolleyDoogUnder James Franklin (2014–2025), Penn State consistently recruited at a top-15 national level, expanded its reach beyond Pennsylvania into the South and Midwest, and built strong pipelines in Maryland, New Jersey, and Virginia. His tenure produced multiple top-10 classes, highlighted by elite prospects like Saquon Barkley, Micah Parsons, and Drew Allar. However, after Franklin’s firing in October 2025, Penn State’s recruiting classes began to unravel, with several high-profile decommitments A to Z Sp... +3.
📈 Recruiting Successes Under Franklin
• National Expansion: Franklin modernized Penn State’s recruiting, leveraging social media and NIL to attract talent nationwide.
• Top Classes:• 2018 class ranked No. 6 nationally, featuring Micah Parsons (5-star LB).
• 2022 class ranked No. 6 nationally, headlined by Drew Allar (QB, 5-star).
• Multiple classes finished in the top 15, keeping Penn State competitive with Ohio State and Michigan.• Star Players Landed:• Saquon Barkley (2015) – became an NFL star.
• Micah Parsons (2018) – NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year.
• Drew Allar (2022) – centerpiece QB recruit.• Regional Pipeline: Maintained dominance in Pennsylvania while expanding into talent-rich areas like Maryland (via the “DMV pipeline”) and New Jersey.
