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Head Coach Jedd Fisch Postgame Press Conference: Ohio State

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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,150

    The Oregon vs Penn State game was probably the #2 game of the week depending on how you viewed the Bama at Georgia game

    Did it ever occur to people that the reason Jedd is talking about the quality of the game vs Ohio State and including in the same sphere of Oregon/Penn St is messaging to his players?

    Anybody citing Jedd being .500 at UW and holding anything tied to last year as indicative of what his future will be as UW coach needs to take a long walk for perspective.

    This isn't the 2000s anymore.

  • theknowledge
    theknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,687 Founders Club

    I get that, but they weren’t SEC tough in the trenches. They had some nice players, maybe even a great one or two but quality depth was always a problem on those teams. TOSU, LSU and Auburn pushed those kids around. The teams the last four years have been pretty stout along the lines and actually have good depth as well.

  • dtd
    dtd Member Posts: 5,407 Standard Supporter
    edited September 30

    lol, good grief. You just make shit up and pass it off as a fact. He's their head coach and he needs to send a message to his team in a press conference none of them will ever listen to when he's around them more than their teachers and families and girlfriends? And you insult everyone else's intelligence with some stupid fucking idea you state is a fact?

    And what a stupid fucking message. You lost at home by 18 to a true freshman QB making his first start on the road, you can hang with anyone!!!

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,612 Founders Club

    So we gave Judd last year. So what?

    This is this year. And everything is indicative including his career losing record

    How many more years should we give him?

    UW didn't think a coach who took a team from 4-8 to 25-3 was worth keeping

    Neither is Judd

  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,150

    I'm providing perspective on why Fisch may have said what he said … doesn't mean that I believe what Fisch said or that it's what I'd do if I was in his shoes

    Keep on twisting

  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,150

    Race,

    I can always count on you for not knowing that beaches exist for perspective

    Last year the roster was gutted from a combination of factors and really was more of a Year 0 for Jedd instead of a Year 1. Can you imagine what the roster would have looked like if Jedd wasn't able to bring a number of players from Arizona?

    When you cite his career record it shows a complete lack of understanding of what he took over at Arizona and the path that he took that program on. Quite frankly its ignorant and you're not the only person in the UW fanbase that misses the mark on that.

    You assume that 1) UW didn't try to keep DeBoer and 2) that there was a price at which DeBoer would have stayed.

    You could make reasonable arguments as to whether DeBoer or Fisch was the right coach to manage this program from 2024 forward and I'm not sure that the answer to that question is clear and obvious.

  • PurpleBaze
    PurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,398 Founders Club
  • dtd
    dtd Member Posts: 5,407 Standard Supporter
    edited September 30

    Oh so you're just making shit up and NOT passing it off as a fact this time? Has it ever occurred to you that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about? You're defending a massively stupid, embarrassing thing for him to have said, and telling people to touch grass after a 3 score home loss because you're a doog. That's a fact.

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,612 Founders Club

    If you wonder if Fisch or DeBoer are better then I rest my case

    Same kind of retards run the program

    How about we hold Fisch to the record DeBoer built without an exhibition season?

    No one cares about last year. It's gone

    And yes UW could have and should have kept DeBoer.

    JFC

  • WoolleyDoog
    WoolleyDoog Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,401 Founders Club
    edited September 30

    Just to piss off DTD, what's your take on Demond @Tequilla I have some pessadawg concerns and am at the very least the "best player on the field" pre-game talk was insane hyperbole.

  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,150

    Coaches say stupid shit all the time

    I'd recommend instead of getting your panties in a wad at every small thing that you look at the bigger picture …

    This team competed well all things considered against Ohio St given the talent gaps on the roster.

    A successful season this year is getting to the Oregon game at 9-2 with a chance to get into the CFP if they win that game. Not trying to say that this year doesn't matter, but this season is laying the foundation for the next 1-2 years.

    If you honestly look at the overall roster and view this as a CFP team that can do damage then I don't know what to tell you.

    Finishing top 15-20 this year would be a really good year … there's room to punch above that and that's the (stretch) goal.

    There's a lot of youth on this roster and still some roster gaps … it's ok to be honest about that.

  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,150

    From a gameday coaching perspective, DeBoer is better than Fisch.

    From a running the program standpoint, I do think it's fair to question whether DeBoer was a long-term fit here when you go back and look at his recruiting and more importantly his interest in it. DeBoer was much more interested in short-term fixes and leveraging the portal. Fisch's approach to building the program up through recruiting and development is the more sustainable approach long-term.

    So when I say that there are valid arguments to both as the answer, that's what I'm referring to.

    The problem with your "analysis" Race is that you're failing to acknowledge the impact that players have on a coach and their success …

    DeBoer got Years 5 and 6 of Penix combined with 3 NFL WRs and a solid number of holdovers from Petersen's recruiting in his 1st 2 years

    Fisch got a heavily depleted roster in Year 1 and if you look at expected win totals you're looking at 8-10 wins for Fisch in Year 2 … which would be comparable to DeBoer's Year 1 despite having a far younger roster impacted by recruiting voids from the Lake era and recruiting indifference from DeBoer

    I don't like that we weren't able to retain DeBoer … I know a very solid offer was made to him (substantially more money than Fisch makes). As I said previously, was there a number that would have got DeBoer to say no to Alabama? If we're being honest I'm not sure that there was a number.

  • dtd
    dtd Member Posts: 5,407 Standard Supporter
    edited September 30

    How in the fucking world can you type that shit with a straight face? Fisch took 19 transfers this last cycle. DeBoer took 19 total in his 2 years. DeBoer isn't interested in developing talent, but was the OC at Indiana for Penix's best season there.

    And here you go again making shit up and acting like they're facts. You don't know a god damned thing about how either of these guys want to run a program. Your arrogance is trumped only by your ignorance.

    If you want to argue KDB didn't need to hit the portal because of the roster he inherited, fine, but you don't know a flying fuck about how either man approaches wiping his ass, let alone running a CFB business.

    How many transfers did he take at Sioux Falls on his way to 67-3?

  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,381

    UW wasn't keeping DeBoer. You keep beating that dead horse but as soon as Saban decided to retire DeBoer was gone and there is fucking NOTHING that could've stopped that.

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,612 Founders Club

    I was right. The UW admin is a bunch of tequila level retards who weren't convinced that a 90percent winning percentage coach who just took a 4-8 team to 25-3 and the national title game was any better than a career loser from Arizona

    So now we get to wait 5 years for this great recruiter to field a team that doesn't look like a JV squad against the best in the country

    We Are Fucked Again

    Zero excitement for the program because fans know they got fucked again. But hey that first half was AWESOME

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,612 Founders Club

    dtd is dialed in. Others not so much

    How in the fucking world can you type that shit with a straight face? Fisch took 19 transfers this last cycle. DeBoer took 19 total in his 2 years. DeBoer isn't interested in developing talent, but was the OC at Indiana for Penix's best season there.

    And here you go again making shit up and acting like they're facts. You don't know a god damned thing about how either of these guys want to run a program. Your arrogance is trumped only by your ignorance.

    If you want to argue KDB didn't need to hit the portal because of the roster he inherited, fine, but you don't know a flying fuck about how either man approaches wiping his ass, let alone running a CFB business.

    How many transfers did he take at Sioux Falls on his way to 67-3?

    EwaDawg
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,892 Founders Club

    It’s fair to pick on Fisch’s winning %. If he was as good as he thinks he is he would’ve gotten a better job than Arizona or more than 1 year as an OC somewhere in NFL.

  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,150

    It's good to see that Race has forgotten to take his senile meds again

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,612 Founders Club

    I'm right. Of course. No surprise there

    Is the administration at least paying you Tequilla or are you just spinning the Doogs Greatest Hits?

  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,421

    To be fair, DeBoer didn't have to take a huge number of transfers because Petersen and co did such a good job of recruiting his last few years and DeBoer inherited them. The roster was pretty loaded outside of QB, RB, and the secondary.

    The NFL departures and the portal change forced Fisch and co. scramble to add bodies so it's really not a valid comparison.

  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,150

    It's a process … nothing about Saturday makes me think that there's time to divert from it.

    What DeBoer walked into was a better situation than what Fisch walked into … only you and your idiotic minions would debate that.

    The sky isn't falling …

    Let's let Jedd prove that it is falling before losing our shit instead of just losing our shit at all times because we hold this program to a level that quite frankly isn't realistic for really any program (maybe even for the bluest of blue bloods)

  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,510

    The good news for Jedd is that he got the talent on the team to a place where they can win double digit games.

    The bad news is if he doesn't do it he's not the killer we need.

    If you need citation you can Google Indiana Football

  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,892 Founders Club

    We are going to lose one BS game, lose at Michigan and lose to Oregon.

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,612 Founders Club

    DeBoer took over a 4-8 team from Jimmy Lake

    Only a doog would downplay that to jack up some loser

    Tequilla still trying to figure out if DeBoer is better than Fisch

    He needs more time

  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,150

    Go look at the team that DeBoer inherited versus the team that Jedd inherited … it's apples and oranges

    The only reason the 2021 team was 4-8 was because of Jimmy Lake FS

    For all your sound and fury Race you really are a simpleton dinosaur