Does Vanilla do any Beta Testing?
Rhetorical question.
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I think this is the beta testing.
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Why am I not surprised. We need cucky to chime in with all his high tech experience stocking shelves for a second opinion.
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Ok, is there a mobile version?
I hit the reply button and vanilla locked me out. I had to close the tab and come back and now it finally gave me the reply box without having to hit reply in the OP. 🤔
Im old but smarter than the self proclaimed PhD ! This shouldn't be hard.
It wasn't broken, stop fixing it!
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I didn't self proclaim a PhD. Sledog awarded it.
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Lol, did Sledog pick your avatar?
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Don't knock it. Some people around here are convinced I do have a PhD from Central.
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You have already deboonked that.
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Fyi ...to the mods or the powers that be at HH, I figured out how to reply to the thread but I have to refresh the page every time and there is no option that I can find to "quote" a particular members poast from my mobile device.
Not a fan of this new format if anyone is taking notes. Carry on 👍
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Oh wait, I found the quote " button…I'll be damned… I have to refresh again to do that..
Still not a fan.
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Fuck Vanilla
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Hate vanilla is far too weak of a term...
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Taking you to the top of a thread from mobile is basically making this site unusable. Especially the threads that have more than one page. Some of us prefer to read this site while driving.
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On my home PC I now get directed to the top of the first page of a thread when I open up the thread. It used to open at the last post that I read. I sort of get a new feature that has a bug but to intentionally take something that is working and then "improve" it so it doesn't work is hard to fathom in 2025. It's like the developers have no input from management on fixes and improvements and then given carte blanch to make changes which aren't subject to any review process and clearly no beta testing as that process is generally understood.
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Annoying isn't the word! You can set see "newest" but you have to do that every time… What a shit show!
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Soon as you pay me $1000/hr I clock in and get to work. Until then, not my problem.
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I think you need to pay for a membership in order to have the right to criticize.
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You can't sit on old web frameworks forever. They get too expensive to maintain and you fall behind security standards quickly. If your customer base is enterprise you simply can't stay on old shit forever.
The fact that they built a new platform that looks and works bad on mobile is their own unique fuckup that they did all by themselves.
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Yes I am in constant contact with Vanilla throughout this. Thank you for your feedback
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This will get remedied
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I will say that their new framework performs better than the old one if you're on a laptop with 32 gigs of ram.
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The old ESPN boreds in 2003 had a better layout…
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Not bad on a shitty chromebook as well.
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I understand not sitting on an old framework but man, are they incapable of coding a new one that exceeds the quality of a message board from 1998?
At this point it reminds me of scouring old user hosted boards that were DIY built by someone like Derek himself.
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@UW_Doog_Bot no defense from me. It's unacceptable. It's like the whole "message board from your phone" concept was not considered by their product people at all.
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Clearly dev’d by people who have no interest in - let alone use regularly - message board function and what might be actually important to an end-user. It’s really inexcusable.
And for the record, this isn’t on DJ.
This is 100% Vanilla fuckery. Trying to save a buck somewhere at end-users expense. An expense so unusable it will drive that end-user to different platforms. For shame.
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It strikes me this is a combination of over embrace of Agile "change for change sake" we'll break it and put it back if we have to, shitty foreign and/or inexperienced devs, and your typical lazy/absent product manager.
Jesus the industry is screwed up anymore. At least if you're actually competent you can probably make a killing.
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stopping by to say that this new UE is absolutely miserable
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The issue is that they thought they could just make a hybrid app and go after some new kind of customer while their current base and site just magically conform to mobile's "good enough" to not piss people off. That is the general strategy. You build one app and it works on everything, but there's still costs to that.
The problem is that in practice those apps do not magically conform to mobile well. They give you a terrible thing in mobile and an acceptable thing on every other viewport.
