What's Your Toxic Doog Opinion?
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lmao
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When Oregon starts approaching any school that's even half of what UW is doing in terms of research revenue, we can talk.
Michigan and Washington practically stand alone in this conference in that regard. Anybody that doesn't think that matters, a lot, to those schools, not including the athletic history with them that Oregon doesn't have but UW does, wasn't paying attention.
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It's really hard to say what happens in 1992 if the Billy Joe situation/distraction didn't happen. Arizona had a super high-end defense that had caused problems to almost everybody they played (they missed a FG at the end of the game that would have had them win at Miami) but their offense was anemic. To beat them you had to have your offense put them in a position to be chasing and UW never did that between fumbles and an inconsistent Brunell. The score at 16-3 doesn't really tell the story as the TD came late in the 4th quarter … so the game was very much winnable. It's probably fair to say that had 1) Billy Joe started with no distraction and continuity OR 2) Brunell was just flat out the starter that UW likely would have won the game. But instead, it was the perfect storm of events to beat UW.
Had UW been undefeated would they have lost the Apple Cup in the snow at the Coug? That's also really hard to say. I forgot until I looked it up that UW was up 7-6 at halftime. Does the 3rd quarter collapse happen if UW had something material to play for? Who knows.
My sense is that UW would have lost to Michigan in the Rose Bowl regardless. By that point the team had a chance to reset behind Brunell and clearly had the carrot in front of them to win back to back Rose Bowls. Problem was that they had absolutely zero answer for Tyrone Wheatley … if you actually go back and watch the 1992 Rose Bowl Wheatley was really the only Michigan player that came off as dangerous in the game (not Desmond Howard). Not saying the 1992 team was bad or that they were necessarily running on fumes but they had some issues when you looked under the hood …
Nip took over the backfield duties as the lead RB (obviously he was talented enough to do that) … but stat wise you got very little out of Beno Bryant and Jay Barry who were your top 2 backs in 1991
Joe Kralik was the leading WR with 33 catches for 487 yards … to say that Bailey and McKay were missed would be an understatement
It was a very good team … but it wasn't a great team
Looking back I don't think that that team had the profile of a national championship team … championship contender yes.
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If Budda gets the INT (and there was a good chance he could have scored) and UW was able to get up 14-0 in the game … then there was a good chance that UW could have been in position to force Alabama to at least use the pass during the game.
From my seats I was directly facing the Alabama sidelines and after the Budda play Saban made a bee line to Kiffin (who I believe was still on staff and hadn't take the Tennessee job until after the game when Sark became the play caller for the title game against Clemson) and chew his ass out. Bama didn't throw in that game because Saban realized right then and there that a turnover or two in the passing game was the path to a UW victory.
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I don't disagree that it was a squandered year/opportunity but that team IMO wasn't a national championship caliber team … similar to 1992 in that it was a really good team.
When you go back and look at the regular season losses they were all super avoidable …
Auburn's game winning TD came on 3rd and goal from the 10 where it was OBVIOUS that they were going to run the ball and not risk a pass … one of the few times I was pissed at Kwiatkowski as a DC … force the FG and then you just need a FG to get the win. On the final drive UW got to the Auburn 37 with 2 minutes to go … plenty of time to work your play calling into FG range … but the play calling changes when you need to get a TD versus another 1st down.
The Oregon game was completely self inflicted … went for it in the 4th tied and failed instead of kicking the go-ahead FG and then missed the game winning FG as time expired.
The Cal game highlighted 1) how important Gaskin was (missed the game) and 2) the idiotic decision to put in Haener ahead of Browning leading to the pick 6 that ultimately cost the game. Big picture when you look at the roster at that point Browning was effectively a game manager and there weren't really any dynamic WRs on the roster at this point. When you lose your do everything RB you get into problems quickly.
The final score doesn't suggest as much but we were bloodied by Ohio St … we were a good team but not a CFP team
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Nobody cheered for that 2018 UW OT loss to Oregon harder than the Pac 12 and all of their employees besides UW-affiliated people.
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I definitely don’t think 2018 was national title caliber and not even playoff caliber a lot of years but the Pac-12 was down - USC was down, Oregon was still a year away, Stanford was done and the Coug almost stole a title. Botching the game against Auburn in Atlanta was super avoidable.
My doog opinion is the Pac-12 setup that fucking game in Eugene to fuck UW and give momentum to Oregon. Still Peterman and Uw absolutely blew a game they should have won.
I think the Pererman quitting vibes were already on that team and Browning was a lowkey disaster but Gaskin kind of willed them. They also almost blew a game to Stanford at home.
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My doog ifs have all been stated. That UCLA loss still stings. Ed Cunningham has brought it up multiple tims. Notre Dame who was ranked #1 lost earlier in the day to Tennessee. #2 ranked UW just had to win, at home, against one of the lesser UCLA teams of that time.
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we? recruit at a top 10 level every year with lil jimmy, deboner, and fisher of boys, and do more with more.
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It was a bad weather day and then you add on the Lewis injury and it just amplified things … it was a day that the D needed to be at its best and frankly they weren't.
I think most people don't really remember how hot/cold Brunell was as a QB at UW … he got a lot better once he got to the NFL and learned for a few years in Green Bay before heading to Jacksonville.
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I acknowledge that UW has phenomenal research revenue. Do you really think athletic conferences give 2 shits about that in this modern era? I don't. They may want schools that fit a certain mold: big, R1 universities. But beyond that, I don't think they care.
Stanford and Cal are the elite of the elite in terms of research revenue and the B1G had zero interest.
Just be a large, R1 university and you're in as long as your football team brings big TV ratings.
The answer is sports revenue. What was the question?
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Do you really think that AD is the only thing factored in here?
lol the answer is not strictly sports revenue. If it was, Oregon would be taken to task on what their numbers look like when they have down years or when the spigot gets turned off. But they haven't been. "Are you UW's Chief rival" was their one box to check.
I understand that the alarms that go off in Anne Arbor when a research factory like UW gets mentioned for realignment do not make a sound on campuses like Oregon and Ohio State.
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I obviously don't because I clearly stated that schools needed to be R1, large universities. But that's it.
Oregon is an AAU, R1 university. Why the hell would the B1G care about research revenue beyond these classifications?
Does the B1G get money from UW's research expenditures? How much of UW's research grant IDC rate includes B1G "taxes"?
I'll answer for you. Zero.
Ps fuck you vanilla
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Schools don't need to just be R1. That's something that schools like Oregon and Oregon State assert. Not Michigan.
Yeah who said that the B1G athletic conference needs to get direct cash for a 1B research school like Michigan, who fucking RUNS them more than Ohio State even, to be like, "Hey, when it comes to raking in hundreds of millions with practical stem research, we now have an incoming peer if we take Washington "
You quooks are around 2 years behind on this topic.
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Ok, die on this hill if you must.
I think we can agree UW isn't in the B1G because of its mascot.
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It's not even a hill and no one's dying over this.
