When Will Oregon Go Away?
When Will Oregon Go Away? 19 votes
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Janet Reno (ROFL!!!!!!!!!!)
Not anytime soon
This was the original story by the time Chip took over
Still waiting
What we do know is that when UW isn't retarded our best beats their best
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Janet Reno (ROFL!!!!!!!!!!)
- helfrich just needed more time to get his guys in there
- dan never leaving, dont blame him, he could have a career like mark few and he's getting a statue built
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- profit
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They're never going away from what they historically were, now that Washington chose to save their program by rejecting the Apple deal and then colluding with them to GTFO at the last second.
As much as I don't/didn't want them in the B1G with us, it's exactly what USC deserves.
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wishful thinking come August while Fill is visiting Nike’s second campus.
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Janet Reno (ROFL!!!!!!!!!!)
They have the resources and will to quickly fire shit coaches and to buy players. They're not going away for a long time.
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Much as you will hate to see me write this, I think white hot Oregon hate motivates Washington more than anything and is a net plus for the program. Probably a net huge plus. Oh, yeah, there is the wine and cheese UW crowd who likes to see UW beating a good USC team and talking about "two classic heavy weights" and history and prestige and all that but it's total poseur talk and everyone knows it whether they admit it or not. And the reason it's poseur talk is because UW's football history is not 1b to USC's 1a. We? are not in their category by way of history. We just aren't. Nobody should make me show the numbers because it's humbling. They were the Pac 10.
But today is today, and the rivalry with Oregon helps recruiting because it's a rivalry that people talk about around the country. People know about it. Kids want to pick a side in it. It's a good thing for Washington football (and a good thing for Oregon football, admittedly). Every serious poster here knows that one thing Washington has suffered from historically is a bit of national anonymity and no serious objective person with a clue can argue that Washington's name recognition and rep matches its history. It deserves more. The Oregon rivalry helps with that. I am a pretty well traveled guy with people all over the country and my distinct impression is that people out there don't think of UW and USC as a thing … as some prestigious historical clash of titanic west coast programs. They don't. When people ask who USC rivals are they think UCLA (and then say "but who gives a shit?") and Notre Dame. They do not think Washington. Now, you ask the same question relating to Oregon, and people know it's UW and that gets the name out there. Nobody gives a shit about the Apple Cup other than NW purists and I can respect that but in terms of the national stage NOGAFF.
The Oregon rivalry is a thing and candidly it deserves to be a thing. It's a damn good rivalry especially by milk toast west coast standards. -
Agree with most everything you wrote and I’m a total homer but not once have I thought or cared what college football fans thought about UW in relation to SC outside the west coast. If you’re a true fan of college football and older that 30 everyone with a brain knows the only blue blood west of Texas in football is and has always been SC. Is anyone actually arguing this?
People in the know and not in their SEC bubble haven’t forgotten how they watched the PAC dominate the Rose Bowls of the past. There wasn’t a hundred bowl games and they call it the granddaddy for a reason until the sport has slowed become basterized the last deadcade.
It took a good not great team to end creeps 58 game win streak in the Orange Bowl. UW tucked away up in the northwest, something Florida and FSU couldn’t accomplish during their peak years.
I’ve gone off on a tangent but knowledgable fans know what UW has accomplished without a marketing machine behind the scenes. We have some great and significant wins on the big stage although we like SC have had some down decades the past 25 years.
Interesting take on the UW/Oregon rivalry that never entered my skull. Beating Oregon probably does benefit the program outside the duckade plus. I consider Nike and the markings machine behind them to be an unfair advantage but life isn’t fair and that machine while it has been a series actually does benefit us like a rising tide after reading the previous comment.
This brain isn’t as sharp as it once was but it never occurred to me his point on the ducks and rivalry and how it helps us nationally. Oregon’s is similar to Gonzaga the past 30 years which I hate to admit seems like catching lightning in a bottle. I’d still like to see the old PAC12 teams become part of the big two or three conferences once the dust settles on the Big12/ACC with eventually but maybe that’s tradition and old rivals that can’t sustain especially when wsu/OSU join all the shit MWC teams ruining the once great PAC name.~Tequila
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One of the more talented UW teams despite record which I attribute to coaching. Go through the '94 UW roster and you'll see it.
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To be fair, you?re retarded pretty fucking often.
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When Fill dies - the woke tards get ahold of the money and sqaunder it on trans bathrooms and DEI nonsense
it’s a classic big 10 rivalry
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Oregon will win 10 plus games forever, Bill!
Strong take. We've barely been able to see what the rivalry could be if both programs are thriving and 2023 showed it can get the recognition it deserves, if both are. I do think having to compete with a progrum that cares and has their shit together has benefited UW instead. USC/UW has never been a rivalry and never will be so can just forget about that.
One big thing in the rivalry for UW is making sure they don't just lose the best players from instate to Oregon every year. Especially now, there's not enough of those guys who UW probably couldn't get out of state talent wise but have an opening because they're in Washington to lose to their closest rival and Oregon is in a good position to recruit those guys.
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Up til now I've been pissed that one sweatshop owner can singlehandedly cheat, bribe, and corrupt a turd school into a media darling.
But given that's now reality, the point raised here is interesting. The Oregon-UW thing elevates UW.
Personally I think we were more elevated when we were raking all the talent in the NW 4th of the country.
But if this Oregon-UW thing is to ever work in our favor we need to improve our brand within that rivalry, while Oregon's needs to sully. They have world class marketing. UW had that Oregon grad we hired a few years ago with her tramp stamp who kept posing in OU swag, and now we have no one.
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Oregon will win 10 plus games forever, Bill!
I think UW's branding has improved over the years but winning is much more important than branding. Everyone forgets everyone was snickering about Oregon's brand bullshit a lot more before they started winning 10 games plus every year once Chip got there. The media and world was different and wasn't just cheerleading and dead internet theory bullshit on social media but the winning was much more important than the branding.
UW will be just fine and keep pace if they can win and don't do shit like have Petersen quit, hire Jimmy, and have DeBoer leave the way he did.
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Yeah UW's effort back in ~2011-2013 versus what it is now is night and day. And it's clearly from all the money and attention they got in 2023. Even the frumpiest of university admins understand the value of printing money like that. But having a rival that care to the degree that they do has contributed to that much more than an old money blue blood that has taken themselves down a level, is 200 million dollars in debt even after killing their conference, and could be in serious trouble unless their people step up and handle Riley.
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Oregon will win 10 plus games forever, Bill!
It seemed like in the early-2010s UW kind of tried to just copy Oregon and that may have come from Sark. Then we had the Petersen OKG shit and the Greatest Setting, Academis shit that was too boring and tame. Then it felt like we kind of had years of nothing other than Greatest Setting.
Seems more dialed in now. The Be A Pro thing is still questionable though to me because Judd's fluffing a bunch of players he had nothing to do with and portal spending has helped Oregon eclipse UW in that anyway, and that's probably going to get worse before it gets better.
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Janet Reno (ROFL!!!!!!!!!!)
UW/Oregon could be west coast OSU/Michigan rivalry type game if we can make another run shortly. A good but disrespected UW is where we? need to be. Fake tough guys go to Oregon, we need a tough defense and solid offense. HS is a huge advantage.
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Oregon will win 10 plus games forever, Bill!
As much as I hate them, Oregon isn’t going back to pre-2000 levels anytime in the next 20 years unless something crazy happens
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Just stop. The @RaceBannon's semi?
eroticironic "football started in 1994" has become a doog mantra. Oregon had the third most wins in the fucking 1990s in the Pac-10, behind UW and (wtf) Arizona. They haven't been a shit ass program since the 80s.
Doogs act like it's new money when it's been a long time coming(twss). I get that we're all olds but get a fucking clue and stop lying to yourselves.From 2000-2009 Orgn was 14th in the nation in wins(#2 in the Pac). UW was 89th, behind WSU(lmfao) and UA and OSU. Fucking OSU had 31 more wins than UW that decade.
Go do 2010-2019, you won't like that at all.
Now go do 2020-Present. Where the fuck is Oregon going? All the academis smack and you can't plot a graph to save your own lives.
Yes 3-0 will never stop my ring from stinging, but grow a pair and call a spade a spade.
UW is a better skool, has more tradition, and half a natty(lol). Whoopty-fucking-doo.
Since 1992 Oregon is 8th in wins. UW is 35th.
Since '80, 19th and 23rd.
S_T_F_U
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Oregon will win 10 plus games forever, Bill!
imagine losing your shit because a rival board pretty much agrees your program isn’t going away. An Oregon coach at this point winning like Oregon did all of the 90s in a water ass Pac-10 other than 94 gets shitcanned btw DTD. You don’t want to go back to that. Most of the 2000s too
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UW being a much better school, having 100+ more years of tradition and football culture, and a day on the mountain top is not some "whoop dee doo" thing bud.
The reason: you saw how impossible it is to kill that, even after 10+ years of self sabotage.
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Oregon will win 10 plus games forever, Bill!
I was complimenting your school, but great essay. Sorry you disagree with the year your program became relevant. Not sorry about 2023. Fag.
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Oregon will win 10 plus games forever, Bill!
I can't even imagine the qookiest of qook argument Oregon was relevant before 94. They had two seasons where they finished ranked before that in the history of the program, and they were in the 40s and 50s and they weren't particularly astounding. Even 94 isn't much compared to what they've done since Chip got there.
That program is also in a 10x better place than it was in the rest of the 90s, where they weren't great either. Their best season was 95 where they got assblasted in the Cotton Bowl.
UW has to have their shit together to win in the rivalry. They haven't won a game in it while not being on point since 2003.
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Janet Reno (ROFL!!!!!!!!!!)
Even in 94 they lost to Utah and Hawaii
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Little brother syndrome and awfully defensive. dud2dud
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Coward doogs hate facts. I didn't state an opinion, I stated reality.
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Here's my quibble…. you say winning got Sux to the top. But before that, it was Oregon's uprecedented tackiness, billboards in times square hyping B- talents, Phil forcing OU merch into stores around the country if you wanted to carry Nike, SEC levels of illegal payments, and a fuckload of paid native OU promotion all over sports media…. that laid the foundation for Chip Kelly to succeed. In other words, it was a shit ton of corruption, coercion, planted media, and shitting on standards that got OU to the table - that they never organically deserved to be at due to their shitty talent base and shitty academics and methy campus - Before they could win with Kelly.
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lol. Christ
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Thread got retarded, but to answer the original question no they aren't going away because they are really good at or they at least spend enough on:
Transfer portal talent acquisition: They are much better at it than other schools that seemingly spend on their level. There's no doubt that the Tulane rb will be a top 3-4 back in conference. Pulling him makes having Jonah seem like not as big of an advantage.
Roster Management: kind of goes along with #1 but they either develop a rando guy out of nowhere or fill in their roster holes nicely from the portal every off-season. The 4-7 win UW teams it's usually one position that they just fail to even mildly patch, by comparison.
Staff turnover: Relatively stable, from an outsiders perspective anyways, and that helps with the above two points as well.
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Janet Reno (ROFL!!!!!!!!!!)
UW is retarded more often than not.
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I'm never going to be convinced that a large part of our? anguish, whether you want to talk about teams 2-minute drilling us with fucking inside runs or losing to mother fucking Montana, Petersen owns most of that.
All he had to do was go to AD/UC and tell them that everybody outside of Malloe and Kwiatkowski is fucking calcified and to go rebuild a new staff potentially keeping just those two guys. He also could have just not been a bitch and won a NY6 game before handing the program to someone else. He could of done a lot of things besides quit at 1am during a thunderstorm against a dead program in 2019.
