What are the thoughts on electronics manufacturing with the tariffs? That seems to be a sector that hasn't been manufactured domestically for a very long time. What was the last major company to manufacture large-scale consumer-ready electronics in the USA? Zenith in the 70's and 80's? Early Apple computers? Is it feasible to bring that back to the states? Or just hoping that negotiations with those countries based on the tariffs will lower the prices back down? Assuming the latter, which I don't disagree with.
I have a 4 year old I Phone that works perfectly so I could give a rip. Those that live on their phones and pride themselves on having the latest and greatest are the ones who will be paying. I am a supporter of the leveling of the playing field. I have worked with and seen other countries block fair trade with USA made products. It has hurt this country badly and needs to be corrected.
The irony here is that the rich got uber rich when they shipped the jobs overseas. They took jobs away and made trillions. All we have heard for the past the 12 years is how evil the rich are but now the rats are protesting cost cutting and tariffs that will bring jobs back and level the playing field. The democrats are so filled with hate for people who don't think like them that they will work against their own country.
Fabs are already coming back to the US for the first time in decades. Intel is likely the sole remaining major company to do fab domestically (and as a company is failing for it and other reasons). Micron still does some, but mainly for R&D purposes. Interestingly, both of these companies have new domestic fabs coming online in the near future, along with TSMC, Microchip, Samsung et al
For better or worse, the chips act really has changed the semis game.
I think it's too early to tell how Tariffs will have an impact, particularly in view of the massive increase in domestic production, but so long as TSMC in particular keeps it's bleeding edge tech in Taiwan, that particular aspect of global trade will remain relevant.
Semis are also notoriously awful for the environment. It'll be interesting to see how the left responds once they're done burning EVs
My uncle is partly to blame. He was a manufacturers rep that serviced Marshall Field back in the 60's. Every time we visited him in Lake Oswego he had shit from Toshiba and other jap manufacturers of electronics. Swept the nation. Japanese products went from a punch line to dominant. He made a ton of money
Long term it will happen in many places, including here, roughly evenly distributed based on demand because of robotics. Things will be built based on orders which will shorten the time frames to save on capital carrying costs and bad inventory.
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What are the thoughts on electronics manufacturing with the tariffs? That seems to be a sector that hasn't been manufactured domestically for a very long time. What was the last major company to manufacture large-scale consumer-ready electronics in the USA? Zenith in the 70's and 80's? Early Apple computers? Is it feasible to bring that back to the states? Or just hoping that negotiations with those countries based on the tariffs will lower the prices back down? Assuming the latter, which I don't disagree with.
I have a 4 year old I Phone that works perfectly so I could give a rip. Those that live on their phones and pride themselves on having the latest and greatest are the ones who will be paying. I am a supporter of the leveling of the playing field. I have worked with and seen other countries block fair trade with USA made products. It has hurt this country badly and needs to be corrected.
The irony here is that the rich got uber rich when they shipped the jobs overseas. They took jobs away and made trillions. All we have heard for the past the 12 years is how evil the rich are but now the rats are protesting cost cutting and tariffs that will bring jobs back and level the playing field. The democrats are so filled with hate for people who don't think like them that they will work against their own country.
Fabs are already coming back to the US for the first time in decades. Intel is likely the sole remaining major company to do fab domestically (and as a company is failing for it and other reasons). Micron still does some, but mainly for R&D purposes. Interestingly, both of these companies have new domestic fabs coming online in the near future, along with TSMC, Microchip, Samsung et al
For better or worse, the chips act really has changed the semis game.
I think it's too early to tell how Tariffs will have an impact, particularly in view of the massive increase in domestic production, but so long as TSMC in particular keeps it's bleeding edge tech in Taiwan, that particular aspect of global trade will remain relevant.
Semis are also notoriously awful for the environment. It'll be interesting to see how the left responds once they're done burning EVs
My uncle is partly to blame. He was a manufacturers rep that serviced Marshall Field back in the 60's. Every time we visited him in Lake Oswego he had shit from Toshiba and other jap manufacturers of electronics. Swept the nation. Japanese products went from a punch line to dominant. He made a ton of money
Long term it will happen in many places, including here, roughly evenly distributed based on demand because of robotics. Things will be built based on orders which will shorten the time frames to save on capital carrying costs and bad inventory.
Son of a bittttttttchhhhhhh
man what a loss not getting the newest Apple intelligence
15 was a good upgrade. USBC and good camera for video.
It’ll be a few years for a big change like that