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Holy fuck you are a Brooin for Mora. Taking bad about Pete to prop Mora up is akin to JohnB poo pooing Don James' accomplishments to boost Sark. It's not as bad, but it's similar. Go look at Pete's NFL defenses vs. Mora's. Pete is as good of a defensive coach as there is. Mora is not. The numbers don't lie. How many games had Carroll won in a row before the Vince Young game? If Mora loses 2 games over 3 years, I won't say shit about his defenses.allpurpleallgold said:
Carroll also had some bad defenses in college. PM Vince Young for details. But you're not cherry picking your facts or anything.RoadDawg55 said:Mora is a good motivator and recruiter. I've never been sold on the coaching though. Too many penalties, very average defenses for a defensive coach. People like the Carroll comparison, but Pete always had good defenses in the NFL before making the switch to college. Mora had very few good defenses in the NFL and the ones he did have in SF were dominant before he took over. It's not his fault his team is overhyped, but they are still a few years from being an actual contender to make the playoffs.
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The only time Mora was a real option was 2007. Compare his two plus years at UCLA to owen12 and two years of Sark. Considering the talent that was actually here I think we were correct in saying he could have rebuilt UW fast. He really has got UCLA excited and over rated or not UCLA is getting a lot of free pub and good recruiting.
I'm serious when I say he's a bit sloppy but it is just one game. A lot of people hate Led Miles too but I'd take him.
It changed for me when UW didn't fuck up and hired Petermen. But he'll have bad games too. I never thought Mora was an option when Sark and Pete were hired. We can win big with Peterson I think but if you think it will be easy to beat UCLA you're crazy -
From what I saw of it, UCLA looked like crap. But they did win on the road, and Don James won a lot of games in similar fashion. We would all be grumbling about the offense and wondering if we could win 8 games that year. He also said the biggest time for improvement is between game 1 and game 2.
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This post, like every other post you've had today, is a ridiculous overreaction.RoadDawg55 said:
Holy fuck you are a Brooin for Mora. Taking bad about Pete to prop Mora up is akin to JohnB poo pooing Don James' accomplishments to boost Sark. It's not as bad, but it's similar. Go look at Pete's NFL defenses vs. Mora's. Pete is as good of a defensive coach as there is. Mora is not. The numbers don't lie. How many games had Carroll won in a row before the Vince Young game? If Mora loses 2 games over 3 years, I won't say shit about his defenses.allpurpleallgold said:
Carroll also had some bad defenses in college. PM Vince Young for details. But you're not cherry picking your facts or anything.RoadDawg55 said:Mora is a good motivator and recruiter. I've never been sold on the coaching though. Too many penalties, very average defenses for a defensive coach. People like the Carroll comparison, but Pete always had good defenses in the NFL before making the switch to college. Mora had very few good defenses in the NFL and the ones he did have in SF were dominant before he took over. It's not his fault his team is overhyped, but they are still a few years from being an actual contender to make the playoffs.
You need to relax and gain some perspective.
Where did I talk bad about Pete Carroll? By pointing out that he had some bad defenses? Go check SRS and DVOA and GHT and LRM and any other bullshit initial statistics that you jerk off to constantly. That defense the year they lost to Young was not good.
Sorry that pointing this out hurt your feelings. But you specifically chose to criticize Moras UCLA defenses, ignore Carroll's bad years at USC and use their NFL track records. That's cherry picking.
I'm not even going to bother with the part about how many games Carroll won in a row. You know how stupid that is when talking specifically about defense. -
APAG- I think Mora is a pretty good coach. My post had nothiing to do with SRS. UCLA has holes though and I've talked about them for months. 10-3 teams that lost multiple impac players aren't championship contenders.They were evident today. Virginia didn't win an ACC game last year. Your post was fucking stupid. Stick to the NBA.
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What does any of that have to do with my last post?RoadDawg55 said:APAG- I think Mora is a pretty good coach. My post had nothiing to do with SRS. UCLA has holes though and I've talked about them for months. 10-3 teams that lost multiple impac players aren't championship contenders.They were evident today. Virginia didn't win an ACC game last year. Your post was fucking stupid. Stick to the NBA.
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Goldshower, I pointed out that Carroll's defenses in the NFL, both as a head coach and a DC, were better than Mora's. At USC, Carroll had great defenses almost every year. The one year you pointed out, which had nothing to do with the original argument, was pretty fucking stupid considering they were undefeated before losing to another undefeated team in the championship game. Every other defense he had from the very first season he was at USC was at least very good (top 25), most being great (top 10).allpurpleallgold said:
What does any of that have to do with my last post?RoadDawg55 said:APAG- I think Mora is a pretty good coach. My post had nothiing to do with SRS. UCLA has holes though and I've talked about them for months. 10-3 teams that lost multiple impac players aren't championship contenders.They were evident today. Virginia didn't win an ACC game last year. Your post was fucking stupid. Stick to the NBA.
There's no shame in being a fan of Mora and thinking he has the potential to be a great coach. I don't share that opinion because I haven't seen evidence that he's better than good. Just get his dick out of your mouth and bring real arguments instead of getting sandy when I accurately point out that Mora has never been in Pete's league as a defensive mind. -
Oregon completely routed Virginia in Virginia last year. This is UCLA's effort? LO fucking L.
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This is not last year's Virginia.oregonblitzkrieg said:Oregon completely routed Virginia in Virginia last year. This is UCLA's effort? LO fucking L.
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This wasn't last year's Virginia team.oregonblitzkrieg said:Oregon completely routed Virginia in Virginia last year. This is UCLA's effort? LO fucking L.
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53 seconds motherfuckeerPurpleBaze said:
This is not last year's Virginia.oregonblitzkrieg said:Oregon completely routed Virginia in Virginia last year. This is UCLA's effort? LO fucking L.
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This is not last year's Virginia.oregonblitzkrieg said:Oregon completely routed Virginia in Virginia last year. This is UCLA's effort? LO fucking L.
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Virginia is not last year's this.oregonblitzkrieg said:Oregon completely routed Virginia in Virginia last year. This is UCLA's effort? LO fucking L.
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Right. Pete's bad defense doesn't count. Because you say so.RoadDawg55 said:
Goldshower, I pointed out that Carroll's defenses in the NFL, both as a head coach and a DC, were better than Mora's. At USC, Carroll had great defenses almost every year. The one year you pointed out, which had nothing to do with the original argument, was pretty fucking stupid considering they were undefeated before losing to another undefeated team in the championship game. Every other defense he had from the very first season he was at USC was at least very good (top 25), most being great (top 10).allpurpleallgold said:
What does any of that have to do with my last post?RoadDawg55 said:APAG- I think Mora is a pretty good coach. My post had nothiing to do with SRS. UCLA has holes though and I've talked about them for months. 10-3 teams that lost multiple impac players aren't championship contenders.They were evident today. Virginia didn't win an ACC game last year. Your post was fucking stupid. Stick to the NBA.
There's no shame in being a fan of Mora and thinking he has the potential to be a great coach. I don't share that opinion because I haven't seen evidence that he's better than good. Just get his dick out of your mouth and bring real arguments instead of getting sandy when I accurately point out that Mora has never been in Pete's league as a defensive mind.
You've made up most of what you think my argument is. Go re read the thread to see everything I've actually said about Mora. Besides "it's only one game" I've said jack shit.
You might be a psychopath. Or you've spent to much time being badgered by more_cock. I'm not trying to do what you think I'm trying to do. Simmer down. -
Will you two just fuck already and get it over with?
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If you look at Mora's overall coaching resume, nothing blows you away, especially the Falcon and Seahawk portion. When he was the Seahawk secondary coach, they were ranked really low in fact. I've had this discussion / argument a few times over the years. In fact a few of you lost it when I suggested Woodward actually negotiate with them and not throw him 9 million dollars a year.
He's done a nice job with UCLA. He's probably in the top 30% of power 5 conference coaches, maybe a little better than that. I'm a big believer in not reading too much into one game, but they have a long way to go if they want to even sniff the playoffs. I believe they have to play Texas in Austin too. -
It's a football argument on a forum. I never thought it was anything more. Stop being a bitch.allpurpleallgold said:
Right. Pete's bad defense doesn't count. Because you say so.RoadDawg55 said:
Goldshower, I pointed out that Carroll's defenses in the NFL, both as a head coach and a DC, were better than Mora's. At USC, Carroll had great defenses almost every year. The one year you pointed out, which had nothing to do with the original argument, was pretty fucking stupid considering they were undefeated before losing to another undefeated team in the championship game. Every other defense he had from the very first season he was at USC was at least very good (top 25), most being great (top 10).allpurpleallgold said:
What does any of that have to do with my last post?RoadDawg55 said:APAG- I think Mora is a pretty good coach. My post had nothiing to do with SRS. UCLA has holes though and I've talked about them for months. 10-3 teams that lost multiple impac players aren't championship contenders.They were evident today. Virginia didn't win an ACC game last year. Your post was fucking stupid. Stick to the NBA.
There's no shame in being a fan of Mora and thinking he has the potential to be a great coach. I don't share that opinion because I haven't seen evidence that he's better than good. Just get his dick out of your mouth and bring real arguments instead of getting sandy when I accurately point out that Mora has never been in Pete's league as a defensive mind.
You've made up most of what you think my argument is. Go re read the thread to see everything I've actually said about Mora. Besides "it's only one game" I've said jack shit.
You might be a psychopath. Or you've spent to much time being badgered by more_cock. I'm not trying to do what you think I'm trying to do. Simmer down. -
Some guys are starting to flirt with He_Needs_More_Cock territory in this thread.
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Who the fuck do you think you're talking to? I'm not talking about the insults you stupid fucking cunt. Use your fucking brain. Think about who I've spent the last 6 years on forums talking too.RoadDawg55 said:
It's a football argument on a forum. I never thought it was anything more. Stop being a bitch.allpurpleallgold said:
Right. Pete's bad defense doesn't count. Because you say so.RoadDawg55 said:
Goldshower, I pointed out that Carroll's defenses in the NFL, both as a head coach and a DC, were better than Mora's. At USC, Carroll had great defenses almost every year. The one year you pointed out, which had nothing to do with the original argument, was pretty fucking stupid considering they were undefeated before losing to another undefeated team in the championship game. Every other defense he had from the very first season he was at USC was at least very good (top 25), most being great (top 10).allpurpleallgold said:
What does any of that have to do with my last post?RoadDawg55 said:APAG- I think Mora is a pretty good coach. My post had nothiing to do with SRS. UCLA has holes though and I've talked about them for months. 10-3 teams that lost multiple impac players aren't championship contenders.They were evident today. Virginia didn't win an ACC game last year. Your post was fucking stupid. Stick to the NBA.
There's no shame in being a fan of Mora and thinking he has the potential to be a great coach. I don't share that opinion because I haven't seen evidence that he's better than good. Just get his dick out of your mouth and bring real arguments instead of getting sandy when I accurately point out that Mora has never been in Pete's league as a defensive mind.
You've made up most of what you think my argument is. Go re read the thread to see everything I've actually said about Mora. Besides "it's only one game" I've said jack shit.
You might be a psychopath. Or you've spent to much time being badgered by more_cock. I'm not trying to do what you think I'm trying to do. Simmer down.
I'm talking about you jumping to ridiculous conclusions. You know, like you literally just did in your last post.
You just keep making up what you think I'm saying when I'm clearly not saying it. Then, when I lay out what you're doing, you just change the subject to another ridiculous argument that I'm not making.
This might help. The point I made, that started all this, wasn't a football argument. You were cherry picking evidence. It had nothing to do with Mora or even Carroll really. -
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Check your PMs.IrishDawg22 said:Some guys are starting to flirt with He_Needs_More_Cock territory in this thread.
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U mad bro?allpurpleallgold said:
Who the fuck do you think you're talking to? I'm not talking about the insults you stupid fucking cunt. Use your fucking brain. Think about who I've spent the last 6 years on forums talking too.RoadDawg55 said:
It's a football argument on a forum. I never thought it was anything more. Stop being a bitch.allpurpleallgold said:
Right. Pete's bad defense doesn't count. Because you say so.RoadDawg55 said:
Goldshower, I pointed out that Carroll's defenses in the NFL, both as a head coach and a DC, were better than Mora's. At USC, Carroll had great defenses almost every year. The one year you pointed out, which had nothing to do with the original argument, was pretty fucking stupid considering they were undefeated before losing to another undefeated team in the championship game. Every other defense he had from the very first season he was at USC was at least very good (top 25), most being great (top 10).allpurpleallgold said:
What does any of that have to do with my last post?RoadDawg55 said:APAG- I think Mora is a pretty good coach. My post had nothiing to do with SRS. UCLA has holes though and I've talked about them for months. 10-3 teams that lost multiple impac players aren't championship contenders.They were evident today. Virginia didn't win an ACC game last year. Your post was fucking stupid. Stick to the NBA.
There's no shame in being a fan of Mora and thinking he has the potential to be a great coach. I don't share that opinion because I haven't seen evidence that he's better than good. Just get his dick out of your mouth and bring real arguments instead of getting sandy when I accurately point out that Mora has never been in Pete's league as a defensive mind.
You've made up most of what you think my argument is. Go re read the thread to see everything I've actually said about Mora. Besides "it's only one game" I've said jack shit.
You might be a psychopath. Or you've spent to much time being badgered by more_cock. I'm not trying to do what you think I'm trying to do. Simmer down.
I'm talking about you jumping to ridiculous conclusions. You know, like you literally just did in your last post.
You just keep making up what you think I'm saying when I'm clearly not saying it. Then, when I lay out what you're doing, you just change the subject to another ridiculous argument that I'm not making.
This might help. The point I made, that started all this, wasn't a football argument. You were cherry picking evidence. It had nothing to do with Mora or even Carroll really. -
I'm being a twister.allpurpleallgold said:
Who the fuck do you think you're talking to? I'm not talking about the insults you stupid fucking cunt. Use your fucking brain. Think about who I've spent the last 6 years on forums talking too.RoadDawg55 said:
It's a football argument on a forum. I never thought it was anything more. Stop being a bitch.allpurpleallgold said:
Right. Pete's bad defense doesn't count. Because you say so.RoadDawg55 said:
Goldshower, I pointed out that Carroll's defenses in the NFL, both as a head coach and a DC, were better than Mora's. At USC, Carroll had great defenses almost every year. The one year you pointed out, which had nothing to do with the original argument, was pretty fucking stupid considering they were undefeated before losing to another undefeated team in the championship game. Every other defense he had from the very first season he was at USC was at least very good (top 25), most being great (top 10).allpurpleallgold said:
What does any of that have to do with my last post?RoadDawg55 said:APAG- I think Mora is a pretty good coach. My post had nothiing to do with SRS. UCLA has holes though and I've talked about them for months. 10-3 teams that lost multiple impac players aren't championship contenders.They were evident today. Virginia didn't win an ACC game last year. Your post was fucking stupid. Stick to the NBA.
There's no shame in being a fan of Mora and thinking he has the potential to be a great coach. I don't share that opinion because I haven't seen evidence that he's better than good. Just get his dick out of your mouth and bring real arguments instead of getting sandy when I accurately point out that Mora has never been in Pete's league as a defensive mind.
You've made up most of what you think my argument is. Go re read the thread to see everything I've actually said about Mora. Besides "it's only one game" I've said jack shit.
You might be a psychopath. Or you've spent to much time being badgered by more_cock. I'm not trying to do what you think I'm trying to do. Simmer down.
I'm talking about you jumping to ridiculous conclusions. You know, like you literally just did in your last post.
You just keep making up what you think I'm saying when I'm clearly not saying it. Then, when I lay out what you're doing, you just change the subject to another ridiculous argument that I'm not making.
This might help. The point I made, that started all this, wasn't a football argument. You were cherry picking evidence. It had nothing to do with Mora or even Carroll really. -
Only if I can watch.EsophagealFeces said:Will you two just fuck already and get it over with?
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$225kPurpleJ said:
Only if I can watch.EsophagealFeces said:Will you two just fuck already and get it over with?
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After all that I still like RoadDawg more than you. And by more than you I mean I like him and hate you.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
U mad bro?allpurpleallgold said:
Who the fuck do you think you're talking to? I'm not talking about the insults you stupid fucking cunt. Use your fucking brain. Think about who I've spent the last 6 years on forums talking too.RoadDawg55 said:
It's a football argument on a forum. I never thought it was anything more. Stop being a bitch.allpurpleallgold said:
Right. Pete's bad defense doesn't count. Because you say so.RoadDawg55 said:
Goldshower, I pointed out that Carroll's defenses in the NFL, both as a head coach and a DC, were better than Mora's. At USC, Carroll had great defenses almost every year. The one year you pointed out, which had nothing to do with the original argument, was pretty fucking stupid considering they were undefeated before losing to another undefeated team in the championship game. Every other defense he had from the very first season he was at USC was at least very good (top 25), most being great (top 10).allpurpleallgold said:
What does any of that have to do with my last post?RoadDawg55 said:APAG- I think Mora is a pretty good coach. My post had nothiing to do with SRS. UCLA has holes though and I've talked about them for months. 10-3 teams that lost multiple impac players aren't championship contenders.They were evident today. Virginia didn't win an ACC game last year. Your post was fucking stupid. Stick to the NBA.
There's no shame in being a fan of Mora and thinking he has the potential to be a great coach. I don't share that opinion because I haven't seen evidence that he's better than good. Just get his dick out of your mouth and bring real arguments instead of getting sandy when I accurately point out that Mora has never been in Pete's league as a defensive mind.
You've made up most of what you think my argument is. Go re read the thread to see everything I've actually said about Mora. Besides "it's only one game" I've said jack shit.
You might be a psychopath. Or you've spent to much time being badgered by more_cock. I'm not trying to do what you think I'm trying to do. Simmer down.
I'm talking about you jumping to ridiculous conclusions. You know, like you literally just did in your last post.
You just keep making up what you think I'm saying when I'm clearly not saying it. Then, when I lay out what you're doing, you just change the subject to another ridiculous argument that I'm not making.
This might help. The point I made, that started all this, wasn't a football argument. You were cherry picking evidence. It had nothing to do with Mora or even Carroll really. -
Good to knowallpurpleallgold said:
After all that I still like RoadDawg more than you. And by more than you I mean I like him and hate you.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
U mad bro?allpurpleallgold said:
Who the fuck do you think you're talking to? I'm not talking about the insults you stupid fucking cunt. Use your fucking brain. Think about who I've spent the last 6 years on forums talking too.RoadDawg55 said:
It's a football argument on a forum. I never thought it was anything more. Stop being a bitch.allpurpleallgold said:
Right. Pete's bad defense doesn't count. Because you say so.RoadDawg55 said:
Goldshower, I pointed out that Carroll's defenses in the NFL, both as a head coach and a DC, were better than Mora's. At USC, Carroll had great defenses almost every year. The one year you pointed out, which had nothing to do with the original argument, was pretty fucking stupid considering they were undefeated before losing to another undefeated team in the championship game. Every other defense he had from the very first season he was at USC was at least very good (top 25), most being great (top 10).allpurpleallgold said:
What does any of that have to do with my last post?RoadDawg55 said:APAG- I think Mora is a pretty good coach. My post had nothiing to do with SRS. UCLA has holes though and I've talked about them for months. 10-3 teams that lost multiple impac players aren't championship contenders.They were evident today. Virginia didn't win an ACC game last year. Your post was fucking stupid. Stick to the NBA.
There's no shame in being a fan of Mora and thinking he has the potential to be a great coach. I don't share that opinion because I haven't seen evidence that he's better than good. Just get his dick out of your mouth and bring real arguments instead of getting sandy when I accurately point out that Mora has never been in Pete's league as a defensive mind.
You've made up most of what you think my argument is. Go re read the thread to see everything I've actually said about Mora. Besides "it's only one game" I've said jack shit.
You might be a psychopath. Or you've spent to much time being badgered by more_cock. I'm not trying to do what you think I'm trying to do. Simmer down.
I'm talking about you jumping to ridiculous conclusions. You know, like you literally just did in your last post.
You just keep making up what you think I'm saying when I'm clearly not saying it. Then, when I lay out what you're doing, you just change the subject to another ridiculous argument that I'm not making.
This might help. The point I made, that started all this, wasn't a football argument. You were cherry picking evidence. It had nothing to do with Mora or even Carroll really. -
What's the fine for this? $75,000 seems a bit low.PurpleJ said:
Only if I can watch.EsophagealFeces said:Will you two just fuck already and get it over with?
