The Fisching Report Recruiting Thread Sponsored by The Fisch Bowl
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very nice of you to give them the benefit of the doubt though you know me and they suck at portal recruiting until they don’t.
Hopefully they prove DSD wrong, find a bigger bag man, and get it done.
I don’t know that I buy the theory that udub only has enough donors and NIL dollars to make a big run every few years. They were just a few bought players away from looking at a 10/11 win season. Couple lineman, couple d lineman, and a leader in the back of this D and they don’t lose two bullshit games they should never lose and don’t lose to the team with all white guys. I’m not saying we? beat Indiana, pedo st, and whoregon at that point but they are in a position to do so and sneak into the playoff. They probably get ass blasted at that point but if fish is this great fucking coach, and can start coaching like it, he can develop, and then actually get his top targets for need, why can’t they stay towards the top?I think I’m on a manic high right now because this shit almost feels positive. Sorry.
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Don't forget that, due to DeBoer bailing after the NC game, UW missed the first portal window where the best players entered and landed with teams. It was great UW got Valdez and Azzopardi but they were blind sided by Kalepo, Brailsford, and Buelow leaving. It's invariably difficult to replace 3 SEC quality OL in the 2nd portal opening and the best UW could do was get a back-up OG from Ohio State (who is now 2nd string) and a starting Center who is local from Portland State (and who has been a pleasant surprise).
Regarding NIL, I have heard UW is at about $10 million and needs another $10 million if they want to be top tier. Even another $5 million would go a long way and might even keep guys like Ploog from flipping to Phil Knight. Why else would a recruit go to a crappy school in a crappy location if not for money?
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It was a Spring portal rebuild only. The amount of players you’re talking about weren’t there to be had. Waaaay more players in the winter portal makes for a more competitive market. Supply is higher. People buying in spring are plugging a hole due to injury or lack of development and will pay a premium for a missing piece. Most aren’t looking to rebuild an entire roster. LIPO, if Fishdicks flails in the next portal then UW is poors and this thing may never get off the ground again.
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Thankfully UW won't be looking for a top 10 or 15 starting QB, which starts at about $1.5 million now. Probably could get 2 DTs, 1 LB, and 1 WR for that…at the very least 2 DTs and 1 LB.
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They had BJ Green in the boat until it was certain his ASU transcript wouldn’t transfer. He would have been huge for UW this year. Wasn’t a single player of his caliber in the spring window. I’m hopeful for 8-12 nice pieces in the portal this winter.
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I was joking with friends that if Demond pulls a rabbit out of the hat and somehow beats Oregon he will have become a millionaire with 60 minutes of brilliance.
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that’s not a funny joke.
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They are definitely taking some OL in the portal
Gaard walked on Senior Day so he's either taking the medical retirement route, the I've graduated and don't plan on playing in the NFL so I"m done route, or going to transfer because I've graduated and that's that route (see elder Hatchett)
Who on the OL right now would you pen into the starting lineup next year? I don't see any sacred cows there …
Azzapardi IMO is a below average Big10 T … way too often when I'm watching him play he's on the wrong side of blocks and lacks the foot speed to block NFL caliber edges (the Penn St game was not good). Perhaps moving him inside you could find value or utility for but I'm not convinced he's a starter next year.
Hatchett probably has an inside track to starting at Center next year … he's probably the closest guy that I'd have to being in dark pencil
I think you could make a good argument that Paki Finau may be starting at one of the G spots … at the very least he's likely in the rotation so you can probably put him in pencil as part of the 7-8 guys that will play
The 2 RS Frosh that played T this year have had their ups and downs … I'm not sure either of them are LTs (at least not at this point) and probably require a move to either RT or to the inside to play next year (both Buelow and Kalepo were T's that eventually moved inside). McCree hasn't been bad and I think could be part of the Top 7-8.
So I'm probably looking at bringing in a T (likely a LT) and another interior guy (preferably someone that has both C/G experience).
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He's starting next year and has a ceiling as a Heisman contender … he'll get 7 figures next year regardless of how he performs at Oregon
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I asked Roman Tomanshoff on twatters if he had info/insight on Memelaar’s plans for next year. Said he hadn’t heard anything beyond him walking at Senior night but thinks he’ll be back. Take it for what it’s worth.
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keep working the phones nacho!
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I'm all for bringing in a guy or two if they are good and the staff sees a need. This is how I see the OL next year:
LT: SR McCree / RS-Soph Tafai / RS-Soph Jackett
LG: RS-Frosh Finau OR Portal
C: JR Hatchett / RS-Soph Henning
RG: SR Memmelar / RS-Frosh Watkins
RT: JR Azzopardi / RS-Soph Faasolo OR RS-Frosh Hylkema
At least to me, the unknowns are 1) how the staff feels about Finau developing and potentially being ready to start at LG. If they think he needs another year, bringing in a Junior or Senior in the portal to give him another year (while he runs at #2 LG as a RS-Frosh) would be ideal. 2) Whether or not they think Azzopardi will be able to take the next step after his first starting season in the B1G. 3) If a guy medically retires or transfers.
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That is not good enough. They absolutely need 1 (preferably 2) portal studs at O line to be competitive. You're not going to have a shitty o line suddenly turn good just because they have a years experience.
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Does a world exist where Hatchet portals back from Oklahoma?
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Fuck you Vanilla!
Kalepo went from holding bags to getting bags from Mississippi. Below was benched his RS freshman year at tackle because he was awful. Guys do develop and get better. That said, I have no idea what the staff thinks about the kids on this roster. One? Two? Four? None? Only Carrol and Fish really know how many they’re looking at portalling in. -
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It sure seems odd to me that you'd walk on Senior night and then come back
Reality is that the OL needs to improve versus this year
Is Gaard part of the solution to improving? I don't know the answer to that
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That's not really any different than this year where you had an OL that proved effectively that it isn't good enough
So the question is how does the OL get better?
Some of it is by younger players getting better
The other part of it is upgrade the talent
I'm fine with McCree, Tafai, and Faasolo fighting it out for a starting spot … I do wonder if there is a higher ceiling for the young guys inside instead of outside
Hatchett I'm willing to move to center and assume that another year removed from his injury will raise his level
I do think there's a good chance that Paki either starts next year or is part of the G rotation next year
Gaard walking just makes me think he's gone one way or the other … assuming he's out I'd like to get an experienced piece here to stabilize the interior
I've largely not been impressed by Azzopardi and think he's a below average B10 OT … I'd look to upgrade at T as I think it's the easiest spot to do so … look for a LT that can come in and then take those that have been playing LT this year and have them compete to be RTs next year (which is a slightly easier spot for what we had this year)
So what I'd go is as follows:
LT: Portal
LG: Paki/Portal
C: Hatchett
RG: Portal/Paki
RT: McCree/Tafai/Faasolo
6-8: 2 RT depth (move 1 of them into the interior) + Henning
All else being equal, I'd like to make sure that I'm pairing my LT/LG and RT/RG with experience and youth instead of having 1 side heavy experience and 1 side relative youth.
I think this gives you a good chance at elevating the play of your OL as well as ensuring that you have good depth to not only cover injuries but also transition into 2026 as well.
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Looks like UW is flipping Austin Simmons from WSU. 6’5” 220lbs TE out of Oregon. Doesn’t have the athletic upside of ButtPloog but maybe PaoPao can make another Drew Sample type player out of him.
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Apparently this guy committed yesterday.
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we? can’t afford him.
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If his position coach has patience, and the kid has a work ethic, this kid could be serviceable in 2-3 yrs. Body types like that don’t grow on trees.
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Yes, my theory is that he was highly coveted but then got way too heavy going into his senior season so most schools backed off because they want a guy ready to compete for a spot after redshirting. That is totally reasonable in today's win now CFB but Carroll knows he has a little more runway since they need to do what it takes to build the lines back up.
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Would give us 4 kids out or Oregon this year, assuming we keep Stascausky
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Seems to me the guys coming up from FCS are hard to project and frequently average at the very best. Would rather see guys from other major programs for the most part.
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we? can’t afford guys from other programs. Assumption made on last year though the counter argument could be made that we only saw the attempt in the second period and the counterpoint to that could be they knew they were fucked on the line and should’ve spent as needed and the counter point to that would be… fuck the kids.
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At least raid the MW conference.
