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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,431
    edited December 2023

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    You gals who get the vapors when anyone equates Republican with Nazi never think twice about conflating Democrats and Communists.

    I am interested in your view of how poorly the left in the US is currently treating Jews and, ever so curiously, siding with a people (not just Hamas) who would shove a Pride flag up the ass of anyone waving it, and make his mother watch.

    A knuckle dragging culture that should have evolved 500 years ago but got stuck. My view is that the left has turned its back on Jews and Israel and in particularly bad form.

    Lots of loathsome leftists embarrass the Democrats because we’re kinda stuck with them. But Biden was the nominee. Leftists aren’t in charge.

    By contrast, GOP wingnuts do run the asylum.
    I used to be of that mind when it seemed like there were but a mere handful, or perhaps more than that, of really loud people on the left. But, candidly, a lot (not all of course) of the seemingly hyperbolic discourse here on left vs. right in the US is looking more meritorious every day.

    This move with the Palestinians is, to me, the most clear example. You have an issue where no free and clear thinking person could possibly take the position many on the left are taking with Israel vis a vis the fake "Palestinians" (who are merely Arabs w/o a country that no other Arab country wants). You have people taking nuclear shots at the only western democracy in the middle east - a place where Arabs live and prosper, even serve on the high court for fuck's sake - vs. almost every other place where you'll get skinned for homosexual activity. It's a complete no brainer, and here we are having an actual, controversial debate in this country about who's right over there. GMAFB. You have BLM Chicago actually doing this:



    Can you even imagine the outrage of a right wing interest group posting a meme of a swastika the day after a bunch of Germans - or any white people really - committed a 10/7 on some shithole country? And not a single person is calling for their organization to at least go fuck themselves? What does "under fire" mean? Why am I not reading about somebody at BLM with their fucking head on a pike? And then you have actual Congress people doing more or less the same, absent the meme? Seriously, man, I'm not the chicken little culture warrior around these parts, but even @GrandpaSankey can see the writing on the wall. Where has the fucking center gone? If I have to pick a spot today, I have to go right. There is no room on the left because to be there you have to swallow these shit ball positions that I refuse to swallow. It's absolutely full on AIDS retardation to not support Israel right this fucking minute. Absolute full blown, oozing sore, AIDS and single digit IQ, cognitive and emotional, to do otherwise.

    10 years ago there would not have been the wide-spread support for "Palestine", a place that doesn't really exist, in this context, and the accompanying lies about "occupation" of the West Bank and Gaza that purposefully avoids the basic context for Israel's role in regulating those borders (but hardly occupying anything).

    The left in the US is simply getting out of control. We need competing schools of thought to keep things honest, but holy fuck all, it has become lunacy. Actual fucking lunacy.
    The center is always going to be quieter and less visible than the fringe. But to anyone who would pull the lever for Daddy instead of Joe in order to move to the center . . . C'mon Man!

    That pro-birth character you play here isn't the center. Hell, not even in Oklahoma or Kansas.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,329
    edited December 2023
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    You gals who get the vapors when anyone equates Republican with Nazi never think twice about conflating Democrats and Communists.

    I am interested in your view of how poorly the left in the US is currently treating Jews and, ever so curiously, siding with a people (not just Hamas) who would shove a Pride flag up the ass of anyone waving it, and make his mother watch.

    A knuckle dragging culture that should have evolved 500 years ago but got stuck. My view is that the left has turned its back on Jews and Israel and in particularly bad form.

    Lots of loathsome leftists embarrass the Democrats because we’re kinda stuck with them. But Biden was the nominee. Leftists aren’t in charge.

    By contrast, GOP wingnuts do run the asylum.
    I used to be of that mind when it seemed like there were but a mere handful, or perhaps more than that, of really loud people on the left. But, candidly, a lot (not all of course) of the seemingly hyperbolic discourse here on left vs. right in the US is looking more meritorious every day.

    This move with the Palestinians is, to me, the most clear example. You have an issue where no free and clear thinking person could possibly take the position many on the left are taking with Israel vis a vis the fake "Palestinians" (who are merely Arabs w/o a country that no other Arab country wants). You have people taking nuclear shots at the only western democracy in the middle east - a place where Arabs live and prosper, even serve on the high court for fuck's sake - vs. almost every other place where you'll get skinned for homosexual activity. It's a complete no brainer, and here we are having an actual, controversial debate in this country about who's right over there. GMAFB. You have BLM Chicago actually doing this:



    Can you even imagine the outrage of a right wing interest group posting a meme of a swastika the day after a bunch of Germans - or any white people really - committed a 10/7 on some shithole country? And not a single person is calling for their organization to at least go fuck themselves? What does "under fire" mean? Why am I not reading about somebody at BLM with their fucking head on a pike? And then you have actual Congress people doing more or less the same, absent the meme? Seriously, man, I'm not the chicken little culture warrior around these parts, but even @GrandpaSankey can see the writing on the wall. Where has the fucking center gone? If I have to pick a spot today, I have to go right. There is no room on the left because to be there you have to swallow these shit ball positions that I refuse to swallow. It's absolutely full on AIDS retardation to not support Israel right this fucking minute. Absolute full blown, oozing sore, AIDS and single digit IQ, cognitive and emotional, to do otherwise.

    10 years ago there would not have been the wide-spread support for "Palestine", a place that doesn't really exist, in this context, and the accompanying lies about "occupation" of the West Bank and Gaza that purposefully avoids the basic context for Israel's role in regulating those borders (but hardly occupying anything).

    The left in the US is simply getting out of control. We need competing schools of thought to keep things honest, but holy fuck all, it has become lunacy. Actual fucking lunacy.
    The center is always going to be quieter and less visible than the fringe. But to anyone who would pull the lever for Daddy instead of Joe in order to move to the center . . . C'mon Man!

    That pro-birth character you play here isn't the center. Hell, not even in Oklahoma or Kansas.
    The center, if there be one, then needs to grab their collective balls and speak up. This fucking world view that sides with a culture and people who literally exalt child death and martyrdom over liberty, freedom and, wait for it, tolerance, is catching on and not getting smaller. It was a few loud kids at Harvard and Columbia, now it's gen pop protesting in most of the major cities, thereby encouraging the POTUS to give limp dick directives to Israel on how to conduct its affairs in what has to be one of histories greatest "no win" situations. Come on. Despite the names they call you here, I feel like you really do know better. Imagine us telling Israel how to deal with that pile of shit in their literal backyard when we exist here with two vast oceans separating us from those who would mean us harm.

    The abortion issue - I don't trade in euphemisms - is a personal view rooted in philosophical substance that is confoundingly above the heads of many, including some of our fellow Tugians. As for people who generally find abortion immoral, I would proffer that many people do but lack the courage to accept, or the intellect to understand, or both, the reasons why it should not be the law of the land or of any state. Some are weighted down with earthly concerns of pragmatism, a view for which I have some empathy. @pawz Alas, my days at UW philo, where I was taught to not surf the popular waves of opinion toward the empty goal of "fitting in", but rather to pursue reason for its own virtuous sake. You may do and think as you wish. We're not in Gaza after all.

    Edit: as to pulling the lever, I became a one issue voter on October 7, 2023, in the same way my Cuban predecessors were one issue voters on communism and Cuba. For me, to be clear, it is where you stand with backing Israel and how much strategy, devotion and resources you are going to apply to fighting Islamic radicalism everywhere. I'm going full neo-con (thanks @YellowSnow ) on this. We have the money and resources to take the fight to their front door. Deal with Iran with an iron fist and don't give them any money. Starve them out any way possible. Tighten borders not to catch fruit pickers and house framers, but to find terrorists who want to slip in. More shit like that. Back fucking Israel 100% and be fucking loud about it in the international community. Let it be known the enemy of our friends is our enemy.

  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,329
    edited December 2023

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    You gals who get the vapors when anyone equates Republican with Nazi never think twice about conflating Democrats and Communists.

    I am interested in your view of how poorly the left in the US is currently treating Jews and, ever so curiously, siding with a people (not just Hamas) who would shove a Pride flag up the ass of anyone waving it, and make his mother watch.

    A knuckle dragging culture that should have evolved 500 years ago but got stuck. My view is that the left has turned its back on Jews and Israel and in particularly bad form.

    Lots of loathsome leftists embarrass the Democrats because we’re kinda stuck with them. But Biden was the nominee. Leftists aren’t in charge.

    By contrast, GOP wingnuts do run the asylum.
    I used to be of that mind when it seemed like there were but a mere handful, or perhaps more than that, of really loud people on the left. But, candidly, a lot (not all of course) of the seemingly hyperbolic discourse here on left vs. right in the US is looking more meritorious every day.

    This move with the Palestinians is, to me, the most clear example. You have an issue where no free and clear thinking person could possibly take the position many on the left are taking with Israel vis a vis the fake "Palestinians" (who are merely Arabs w/o a country that no other Arab country wants). You have people taking nuclear shots at the only western democracy in the middle east - a place where Arabs live and prosper, even serve on the high court for fuck's sake - vs. almost every other place where you'll get skinned for homosexual activity. It's a complete no brainer, and here we are having an actual, controversial debate in this country about who's right over there. GMAFB. You have BLM Chicago actually doing this:



    Can you even imagine the outrage of a right wing interest group posting a meme of a swastika the day after a bunch of Germans - or any white people really - committed a 10/7 on some shithole country? And not a single person is calling for their organization to at least go fuck themselves? What does "under fire" mean? Why am I not reading about somebody at BLM with their fucking head on a pike? And then you have actual Congress people doing more or less the same, absent the meme? Seriously, man, I'm not the chicken little culture warrior around these parts, but even @GrandpaSankey can see the writing on the wall. Where has the fucking center gone? If I have to pick a spot today, I have to go right. There is no room on the left because to be there you have to swallow these shit ball positions that I refuse to swallow. It's absolutely full on AIDS retardation to not support Israel right this fucking minute. Absolute full blown, oozing sore, AIDS and single digit IQ, cognitive and emotional, to do otherwise.

    10 years ago there would not have been the wide-spread support for "Palestine", a place that doesn't really exist, in this context, and the accompanying lies about "occupation" of the West Bank and Gaza that purposefully avoids the basic context for Israel's role in regulating those borders (but hardly occupying anything).

    The left in the US is simply getting out of control. We need competing schools of thought to keep things honest, but holy fuck all, it has become lunacy. Actual fucking lunacy.
    The center is always going to be quieter and less visible than the fringe. But to anyone who would pull the lever for Daddy instead of Joe in order to move to the center . . . C'mon Man!

    That pro-birth character you play here isn't the center. Hell, not even in Oklahoma or Kansas.
    Biden is an enemy of Israel

    Hope this helps

    Didn't use to be but he's being run by leftist scum like we said

    You keep wetting your pants over your daddy

    We'll keep living in reality

    Trump is center. On abortion and everything else

    Borders matter. Cheap energy matters

    Leftist scum are against both

    That's what you're voting for
    Word.

    I literally let my own mother have it with the Trump hysteria a few weeks back. Told her to quit boring me with Trump "danger!" and laid down the law that I may only be approached with political talk by people who have an informed view on "the Palestinians!"

    It's been crickets ever since. You know why? Because the Trump anxiety game gives bored people something to do. Long after it was topical, there is this class of people who still run around hysterical over "what Trump might do!"

    JFC.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,962 Standard Supporter

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    You gals who get the vapors when anyone equates Republican with Nazi never think twice about conflating Democrats and Communists.

    I am interested in your view of how poorly the left in the US is currently treating Jews and, ever so curiously, siding with a people (not just Hamas) who would shove a Pride flag up the ass of anyone waving it, and make his mother watch.

    A knuckle dragging culture that should have evolved 500 years ago but got stuck. My view is that the left has turned its back on Jews and Israel and in particularly bad form.

    Lots of loathsome leftists embarrass the Democrats because we’re kinda stuck with them. But Biden was the nominee. Leftists aren’t in charge.

    By contrast, GOP wingnuts do run the asylum.
    I used to be of that mind when it seemed like there were but a mere handful, or perhaps more than that, of really loud people on the left. But, candidly, a lot (not all of course) of the seemingly hyperbolic discourse here on left vs. right in the US is looking more meritorious every day.

    This move with the Palestinians is, to me, the most clear example. You have an issue where no free and clear thinking person could possibly take the position many on the left are taking with Israel vis a vis the fake "Palestinians" (who are merely Arabs w/o a country that no other Arab country wants). You have people taking nuclear shots at the only western democracy in the middle east - a place where Arabs live and prosper, even serve on the high court for fuck's sake - vs. almost every other place where you'll get skinned for homosexual activity. It's a complete no brainer, and here we are having an actual, controversial debate in this country about who's right over there. GMAFB. You have BLM Chicago actually doing this:



    Can you even imagine the outrage of a right wing interest group posting a meme of a swastika the day after a bunch of Germans - or any white people really - committed a 10/7 on some shithole country? And not a single person is calling for their organization to at least go fuck themselves? What does "under fire" mean? Why am I not reading about somebody at BLM with their fucking head on a pike? And then you have actual Congress people doing more or less the same, absent the meme? Seriously, man, I'm not the chicken little culture warrior around these parts, but even @GrandpaSankey can see the writing on the wall. Where has the fucking center gone? If I have to pick a spot today, I have to go right. There is no room on the left because to be there you have to swallow these shit ball positions that I refuse to swallow. It's absolutely full on AIDS retardation to not support Israel right this fucking minute. Absolute full blown, oozing sore, AIDS and single digit IQ, cognitive and emotional, to do otherwise.

    10 years ago there would not have been the wide-spread support for "Palestine", a place that doesn't really exist, in this context, and the accompanying lies about "occupation" of the West Bank and Gaza that purposefully avoids the basic context for Israel's role in regulating those borders (but hardly occupying anything).

    The left in the US is simply getting out of control. We need competing schools of thought to keep things honest, but holy fuck all, it has become lunacy. Actual fucking lunacy.
    The center is always going to be quieter and less visible than the fringe. But to anyone who would pull the lever for Daddy instead of Joe in order to move to the center . . . C'mon Man!

    That pro-birth character you play here isn't the center. Hell, not even in Oklahoma or Kansas.
    Biden is an enemy of Israel

    Hope this helps

    Didn't use to be but he's being run by leftist scum like we said

    You keep wetting your pants over your daddy

    We'll keep living in reality

    Trump is center. On abortion and everything else

    Borders matter. Cheap energy matters

    Leftist scum are against both

    That's what you're voting for
    Word.

    I literally let my own mother have it with the Trump hysteria a few weeks back. Told her to quit boring me with Trump "danger!" and laid down the law that I may only be approached with political talk by people who have an informed view on "the Palestinians!"

    It's been crickets ever since. You know why? Because the Trump anxiety game gives bored people something to do. Long after it was topical, there is this class of people who still run around hysterical over "what Trump might do!"

    JFC.
    Look at the Big 3. The federal government run by barry and then led by an entrenched leftard bureaucracy tried to remove a duly elected president from office based on lies promoted by the Clinton campaign, the MSM, Russia and the US intelligence agencies and the DOJ. But Trump is the danger to democracy because he wants honest elections. If you want to talk about authoritarian, look at the response to the chicom crud by leftard authoritarians. Lockdowns and mandates all based on lies promoted by the US federal medical bureaucracy, Big Pharma, and blue state mayors and governors and incompetent state medical bureaucrats. Finally, look at US energy policy which is not based on science and free markets but is based on lies, fear and big government employees in bed with crony capitalists and all aimed at crippling the US middle and lower classes.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,589 Founders Club
    Being a constitutionalist used to put you in the center.

    The mainstream Democratic party now views the constitution as an obstacle to be removed.

    https://www.gov.ca.gov/2023/06/12/28th-wtas/#:~:text=A 28th Constitutional Amendment will,to keep our families safe.”

    Kinda all there is to be said.

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,431

    Being a constitutionalist used to put you in the center.

    The mainstream Democratic party now views the constitution as an obstacle to be removed.

    https://www.gov.ca.gov/2023/06/12/28th-wtas/#:~:text=A 28th Constitutional Amendment will,to keep our families safe.”

    Kinda all there is to be said.

    You're voting for someone who calls for the "termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution."

    When is Self-Awareness Awareness Week?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,767 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    Being a constitutionalist used to put you in the center.

    The mainstream Democratic party now views the constitution as an obstacle to be removed.

    https://www.gov.ca.gov/2023/06/12/28th-wtas/#:~:text=A 28th Constitutional Amendment will,to keep our families safe.”

    Kinda all there is to be said.

    You're voting for someone who calls for the "termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution."

    When is Self-Awareness Awareness Week?
    Sure

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,431

    HHusky said:

    Being a constitutionalist used to put you in the center.

    The mainstream Democratic party now views the constitution as an obstacle to be removed.

    https://www.gov.ca.gov/2023/06/12/28th-wtas/#:~:text=A 28th Constitutional Amendment will,to keep our families safe.”

    Kinda all there is to be said.

    You're voting for someone who calls for the "termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution."

    When is Self-Awareness Awareness Week?
    Sure

    Daddy said it. But only because he didn't get his way. So it's normal.