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OFFICIAL Washington vs Oregon Pac-12 Championship Game Thread

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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,020 Founders Club
    In 9 league games only 3 teams gave up more points to Washington than Oregon did

    Rooted in substance
  • DucksFCDucksFC Member Posts: 1,568
    Desmond Howard picked Washington. DOOMED
  • alumni94alumni94 Member Posts: 4,858
    DucksFC said:

    Desmond Howard picked Washington. DOOMED

    He wants the rematch.
  • BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 11,569
    flatus said:


    College football is going down a dangerous path. For instance the growing absurdity of the four–team playoff with five conferences (notably 2 SEC teams), Notre Dame and a non-power five representative, the constant negative Pac 12 narratives, the state of the power five conferences, the SEC, the media–driven (eSECpn), East Coast bias attempts to stack the playoff, the absurd scheduling of the SEC elite, the lack of competition in certain conferences, Joel Klatt, UW, the worst conference in 30 years ….I could go on and on, and I will!

    Week zero, the pac12 is out of playoff race without playing a game. Seriously, that question arose. Then week one after the duck loss, even though UO was clearly the better team through 3 ½ quarters, the pac12 and Oregon are out of the playoff race according to media (according to Pup, if ducks win out they're firmly entrenched).

    The pac12 is again out of the playoff week two when Washington loses to a very legit Cal defense, obviously one of the best secondaries in the country, and by one point…. In a bizarre game that went past 1 AM Sunday morning, with maybe 10,000 fans. That layoff killed the pac12's 14 point favorite, dropped UW 10 spots in AP, YOU KIDDING ME?. Like to hear Klatt's opinion on that (more on him).

    Let's face it, the pac12 has been out of playoff race for three years if one watches ESPN. The Pacfudge will be out of the playoff race until we expand to pup's 6 – team model, which I laid out on hardcore husky four years ago… Because I knew this would be the result.
    I said four years ago that Notre Dame would eventually throw a monkey wrench into the playoff, and kill UW. I was close.

    At least Lee Corso has an objective bone in his body, and threw a life preserver to the pac12 by picking Utah for the playoff. God bless him! Guess the Pac isn't out yet, until UTAH loses to UW. I hope the committee and the media treats Alabama the same should they lose a game. That was sarcasm in case you didn't know. In reality Alabama would drop two spots, NOT 10, and get into the playoff with Georgia again, and with a pathetic SOS.

    Now to UW football quickly. Puppylove warned of a split between Cal and BYU after spring ball. I didn't see an offense capable of winning critical drives by the offense under Eason or Haener early in the season; and a worrisome defense with inexperience and quality at inside linebacker, the youth at interior defensive line, obvious youth at DB in the two –deeps. It cost us a victory as we saw on Sunday night at 1 AM; Puppy was spot on.

    I beat into the ground the reality that you just don't replace nine starters on defense, or magically insert a savior at QB. Alabama has struggled in big games with their Savior Tua. If Alabama actually had to play a difficult schedule early, with a defense the quality of Cal's, they could very well lose by one point… But certainly wouldn't drop 10 spots.

    I've never seen a good team drop 10 spots playing a legit conference foe. The Pac12 narrative absolutely influenced AP voters. Uhhh coaches poll isn't objective either. All UW can do is win out. Either a 6-team playoff or accept this every year. Pac12 will never get respect until they have a fair path to do so through an auto 6-team path. Same one I proposed after 1st year of playoff

    Provo was the venue I was most worried about, considering the elevation, quality of opponent under Sitake, the rabid fan base and history of BYU football, in early games especially, beating quality opponents. PLSS was ridiculed and laughed off the hard-core husky board, in spring and fall. Now I'm more worried about BYU.

    Will Washington get any credit if they beat BYU considering they just beat the piss out of Tennessee? I highly doubt it, as BYU just caught Tennessee and their vaunted “ SEC” defense on a bad day.

    UW is a good football team, very physical at the point of attack on offense, the best tight ends in the pac12, a deep stable of running backs and wide receivers… But a QB who hasn't taken a snap in two years. Fans need to accept that and give Eason time. Too bad the other Jake left the program, we'll need him bad at some point… Sirmon isn't ready for live pac12 snaps

    The pac12 is a deep conference, 5–6 deep of teams who can beat you on any given Saturday. No other conference but the Big Ten has that. The ACC has 1, the SEC has 4 maybe 5, the big 12 has 3 with explosive Okie St and mullet man.

    Watching ESPN, specifically college football live and Gameday since week zero, the only conference that consistently gets mentioned for college football playoff elimination, at every single opportunity is the PAC12. When has Polak never mentioned the ACC for playoff elimination considering they are a 1 team conference. What if Clemson loses to pathetic Syracuse? Will they drop 10 spots? Yeah right!

    Did anybody notice the ACC's second-best team Syracuse get bumpounded by a low-grade Big Ten team Maryland over the weekend? Or the big 12 if Oklahoma or Texas loses a game? Well Texas just got beat by LSU, did Polak mention the big 12 for playoff elimination when their best team, next to Oklahoma, just lost? Like they did when Oregon “ lost” to Auburn? Or Michigan's narrow escape versus Army... didn't mention Michigan or the Big Ten being left out of the playoff? What about Tennessee David? Memphis vs Ole Miss? How about Mizzouch, South Carolina, and Vandy? How about Auburn's mighty unimpressive win vs Tulane...

    Polak and Co. would rather focus on the pac12's two bottom feeders in Oregon State and Arizona, and their losses to a pretty good Hawaii team. Little mention of Colorado's impressive comeback win over the big10's other division's preseason favorite in Nebraska. Klatt did.

    Let's talk about Alabama's only “ difficult” road game at Auburn. Auburn is the equivalent of ASU from the pac12, but I'd certainly take ASU in that match-up… I need not list the rest of Bambi's schedule, one of the easiest in the country. Imagine if Bama had to travel to Utah, Oregon, UW, or out of conference with any home and home opponents like Clemson, which TAMU just did. Wait a minute, Alabama is the only major power five team who doesn't do a home-home with anybody. And never really has. Oh, and they only play an 8–game schedule, with an FCS opponent before every difficult game.

    Auburn, Georgia, other SEC powers are the only conference members who get away with playing a cupcake the week before a rival game every year; but that's how the SEC assures at least one team gets to the playoff, or 2 teams by eliminating the PAC via ESPN's help. If ND stinks because of their difficult schedule, the SEC gets 2 teams in at expense of either big10 or pac12. 2 years Oklahoma, with no defense, snuck into the playoff.

    The big 12 has a Commissioner in Bowlsby who actually fights for his conference members, whereas the pac12 has Larry Scott, who sits on his thumb regarding football. He's more interested in increasing opportunities for women's soccer than getting his members into the college football playoff. Why Larry Scott still has a job is beyond me...I digress!

    The SEC has the only major sports network as a backer, ESPN, who uses propaganda to elevate the importance of the conference. It's no different than the mainstream media's coverage of the Democratic Party. Control the mass media you control the people. That sure holds true in politics as well. Donald Trump being the pac12!

    Nobody but PUP exposes the SEC for what it is. Pardon me, Joel Klatt does as well. He's clearly the best announcer in college football, and not employed by ESPN, but FOX sports so he can speak honestly and he does. If you haven't heard his exposure of the SEC you must BING it, it's worth the search ( Pup don't do Google). Joel said everything Pumpy has been saying for 10 years. Funny the parallel between CNN-FOX and ESPN-FOXsports.

    Quickly to the ACC. Clemson and nobody else. The ACC is the worst conference I have seen in 30 years of covering college football. I think that's enough said


    6-team playoff? Pumpy revealed his 6 – team model after the first 4–team playoff. I was perplexed how a major conference was left out. Then I said Notre Dame will take away a representative from a major conference at some point. That too was correct as we saw Notre Dame get pummeled in last year's playoff. Yes the pac12 has had a representative, but only 2 in its existence. The Big Ten hasn't sniffed the playoffs in two years. Is that fair?

    My model was simple back then, a 6– team playoff with all five major conferences sending their conference champion, and one non-power five rep like Boise State. After all this time this model is now being mentioned consistently. It's coming, the question is how long will it take. If the Big Ten or the big 12 misses the playoff again, because of two SEC teams, the heat will turn up. Not from Larry Scott however. He doesn't really care if the pac12 is a representative or not. He has to realize how much money and exposure his conference will get. Fire Larry Scott now!


    I'm excited to start watching this season unfold. For any idiot to exclude the pac12 this early is just that! There's a lot of football left, and every year the PAC has to fight off negative publicity. Oregon is certainly not out of the playoff, Utah is far from. The loss to CAL will certainly hurt UW's chances, but only because CAL gets zero respect from those on the East Coast, who control the narratives.

    Don't jump ship, this will be an exciting year. Even for UW! I hate the BYU game, have for a long time. The playoff is out of the question with a loss. The pac12 championship game however is not. Stay the course DAWG fans

    I stopped reading this bullshit after your "Oregon was clearly better for 3.5 quarters" claim. You must have forgotten that UW was up 29 - 18 with the ball prior to Grubb going full retard.
  • Seven_ElevenSeven_Eleven Member Posts: 120
    jecornel said:

    Derek, I’m all in this evening. No doubting Deboer the duck killer. The pressure is now on the duck while the dawgs get to let it rip. I like my dawgs tonight.

    I trust Deboer, but I disagree that the pressure is on the ducks, which is why I'm not looking forward to watching. We are the undefeated team. We are the team assured a playoff spot if we win. We've been atop the Pac-12 leaderboard for two months while the ducks have been chasing us. This is one of those rare cases where the Vegas underdog is still the team with more pressure on them. I don't like it.

    Fortunately, Lanning's a moron and Deboer's a genius.
  • jecorneljecornel Member Posts: 9,727
    The dawgs have pressure for sure but the Duck is chasing we have a different mindset. We hit 12-0 and Deboer’s message is let it rip.

    jecornel said:

    Derek, I’m all in this evening. No doubting Deboer the duck killer. The pressure is now on the duck while the dawgs get to let it rip. I like my dawgs tonight.

    I trust Deboer, but I disagree that the pressure is on the ducks, which is why I'm not looking forward to watching. We are the undefeated team. We are the team assured a playoff spot if we win. We've been atop the Pac-12 leaderboard for two months while the ducks have been chasing us. This is one of those rare cases where the Vegas underdog is still the team with more pressure on them. I don't like it.

    Fortunately, Lanning's a moron and Deboer's a genius.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,020 Founders Club
    DucksFC said:

    well now Oregon actually is doomed. congrats Doogs.

    Probably only the first unintended consequence and the first school

    Oregon leading the way
  • DucksFCDucksFC Member Posts: 1,568

    DucksFC said:

    well now Oregon actually is doomed. congrats Doogs.

    Probably only the first unintended consequence and the first school

    Oregon leading the way
    I'm just impressed we? beat Cal to it.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,499 Standard Supporter
    DucksFC said:

    DucksFC said:

    well now Oregon actually is doomed. congrats Doogs.

    Probably only the first unintended consequence and the first school

    Oregon leading the way
    I'm just impressed we? beat Cal to it.
    National Brand.
  • LawDawg1LawDawg1 Member Posts: 3,870

    flatus said:


    College football is going down a dangerous path. For instance the growing absurdity of the four–team playoff with five conferences (notably 2 SEC teams), Notre Dame and a non-power five representative, the constant negative Pac 12 narratives, the state of the power five conferences, the SEC, the media–driven (eSECpn), East Coast bias attempts to stack the playoff, the absurd scheduling of the SEC elite, the lack of competition in certain conferences, Joel Klatt, UW, the worst conference in 30 years ….I could go on and on, and I will!

    Week zero, the pac12 is out of playoff race without playing a game. Seriously, that question arose. Then week one after the duck loss, even though UO was clearly the better team through 3 ½ quarters, the pac12 and Oregon are out of the playoff race according to media (according to Pup, if ducks win out they're firmly entrenched).

    The pac12 is again out of the playoff week two when Washington loses to a very legit Cal defense, obviously one of the best secondaries in the country, and by one point…. In a bizarre game that went past 1 AM Sunday morning, with maybe 10,000 fans. That layoff killed the pac12's 14 point favorite, dropped UW 10 spots in AP, YOU KIDDING ME?. Like to hear Klatt's opinion on that (more on him).

    Let's face it, the pac12 has been out of playoff race for three years if one watches ESPN. The Pacfudge will be out of the playoff race until we expand to pup's 6 – team model, which I laid out on hardcore husky four years ago… Because I knew this would be the result.
    I said four years ago that Notre Dame would eventually throw a monkey wrench into the playoff, and kill UW. I was close.

    At least Lee Corso has an objective bone in his body, and threw a life preserver to the pac12 by picking Utah for the playoff. God bless him! Guess the Pac isn't out yet, until UTAH loses to UW. I hope the committee and the media treats Alabama the same should they lose a game. That was sarcasm in case you didn't know. In reality Alabama would drop two spots, NOT 10, and get into the playoff with Georgia again, and with a pathetic SOS.

    Now to UW football quickly. Puppylove warned of a split between Cal and BYU after spring ball. I didn't see an offense capable of winning critical drives by the offense under Eason or Haener early in the season; and a worrisome defense with inexperience and quality at inside linebacker, the youth at interior defensive line, obvious youth at DB in the two –deeps. It cost us a victory as we saw on Sunday night at 1 AM; Puppy was spot on.

    I beat into the ground the reality that you just don't replace nine starters on defense, or magically insert a savior at QB. Alabama has struggled in big games with their Savior Tua. If Alabama actually had to play a difficult schedule early, with a defense the quality of Cal's, they could very well lose by one point… But certainly wouldn't drop 10 spots.

    I've never seen a good team drop 10 spots playing a legit conference foe. The Pac12 narrative absolutely influenced AP voters. Uhhh coaches poll isn't objective either. All UW can do is win out. Either a 6-team playoff or accept this every year. Pac12 will never get respect until they have a fair path to do so through an auto 6-team path. Same one I proposed after 1st year of playoff

    Provo was the venue I was most worried about, considering the elevation, quality of opponent under Sitake, the rabid fan base and history of BYU football, in early games especially, beating quality opponents. PLSS was ridiculed and laughed off the hard-core husky board, in spring and fall. Now I'm more worried about BYU.

    Will Washington get any credit if they beat BYU considering they just beat the piss out of Tennessee? I highly doubt it, as BYU just caught Tennessee and their vaunted “ SEC” defense on a bad day.

    UW is a good football team, very physical at the point of attack on offense, the best tight ends in the pac12, a deep stable of running backs and wide receivers… But a QB who hasn't taken a snap in two years. Fans need to accept that and give Eason time. Too bad the other Jake left the program, we'll need him bad at some point… Sirmon isn't ready for live pac12 snaps

    The pac12 is a deep conference, 5–6 deep of teams who can beat you on any given Saturday. No other conference but the Big Ten has that. The ACC has 1, the SEC has 4 maybe 5, the big 12 has 3 with explosive Okie St and mullet man.

    Watching ESPN, specifically college football live and Gameday since week zero, the only conference that consistently gets mentioned for college football playoff elimination, at every single opportunity is the PAC12. When has Polak never mentioned the ACC for playoff elimination considering they are a 1 team conference. What if Clemson loses to pathetic Syracuse? Will they drop 10 spots? Yeah right!

    Did anybody notice the ACC's second-best team Syracuse get bumpounded by a low-grade Big Ten team Maryland over the weekend? Or the big 12 if Oklahoma or Texas loses a game? Well Texas just got beat by LSU, did Polak mention the big 12 for playoff elimination when their best team, next to Oklahoma, just lost? Like they did when Oregon “ lost” to Auburn? Or Michigan's narrow escape versus Army... didn't mention Michigan or the Big Ten being left out of the playoff? What about Tennessee David? Memphis vs Ole Miss? How about Mizzouch, South Carolina, and Vandy? How about Auburn's mighty unimpressive win vs Tulane...

    Polak and Co. would rather focus on the pac12's two bottom feeders in Oregon State and Arizona, and their losses to a pretty good Hawaii team. Little mention of Colorado's impressive comeback win over the big10's other division's preseason favorite in Nebraska. Klatt did.

    Let's talk about Alabama's only “ difficult” road game at Auburn. Auburn is the equivalent of ASU from the pac12, but I'd certainly take ASU in that match-up… I need not list the rest of Bambi's schedule, one of the easiest in the country. Imagine if Bama had to travel to Utah, Oregon, UW, or out of conference with any home and home opponents like Clemson, which TAMU just did. Wait a minute, Alabama is the only major power five team who doesn't do a home-home with anybody. And never really has. Oh, and they only play an 8–game schedule, with an FCS opponent before every difficult game.

    Auburn, Georgia, other SEC powers are the only conference members who get away with playing a cupcake the week before a rival game every year; but that's how the SEC assures at least one team gets to the playoff, or 2 teams by eliminating the PAC via ESPN's help. If ND stinks because of their difficult schedule, the SEC gets 2 teams in at expense of either big10 or pac12. 2 years Oklahoma, with no defense, snuck into the playoff.

    The big 12 has a Commissioner in Bowlsby who actually fights for his conference members, whereas the pac12 has Larry Scott, who sits on his thumb regarding football. He's more interested in increasing opportunities for women's soccer than getting his members into the college football playoff. Why Larry Scott still has a job is beyond me...I digress!

    The SEC has the only major sports network as a backer, ESPN, who uses propaganda to elevate the importance of the conference. It's no different than the mainstream media's coverage of the Democratic Party. Control the mass media you control the people. That sure holds true in politics as well. Donald Trump being the pac12!

    Nobody but PUP exposes the SEC for what it is. Pardon me, Joel Klatt does as well. He's clearly the best announcer in college football, and not employed by ESPN, but FOX sports so he can speak honestly and he does. If you haven't heard his exposure of the SEC you must BING it, it's worth the search ( Pup don't do Google). Joel said everything Pumpy has been saying for 10 years. Funny the parallel between CNN-FOX and ESPN-FOXsports.

    Quickly to the ACC. Clemson and nobody else. The ACC is the worst conference I have seen in 30 years of covering college football. I think that's enough said


    6-team playoff? Pumpy revealed his 6 – team model after the first 4–team playoff. I was perplexed how a major conference was left out. Then I said Notre Dame will take away a representative from a major conference at some point. That too was correct as we saw Notre Dame get pummeled in last year's playoff. Yes the pac12 has had a representative, but only 2 in its existence. The Big Ten hasn't sniffed the playoffs in two years. Is that fair?

    My model was simple back then, a 6– team playoff with all five major conferences sending their conference champion, and one non-power five rep like Boise State. After all this time this model is now being mentioned consistently. It's coming, the question is how long will it take. If the Big Ten or the big 12 misses the playoff again, because of two SEC teams, the heat will turn up. Not from Larry Scott however. He doesn't really care if the pac12 is a representative or not. He has to realize how much money and exposure his conference will get. Fire Larry Scott now!


    I'm excited to start watching this season unfold. For any idiot to exclude the pac12 this early is just that! There's a lot of football left, and every year the PAC has to fight off negative publicity. Oregon is certainly not out of the playoff, Utah is far from. The loss to CAL will certainly hurt UW's chances, but only because CAL gets zero respect from those on the East Coast, who control the narratives.

    Don't jump ship, this will be an exciting year. Even for UW! I hate the BYU game, have for a long time. The playoff is out of the question with a loss. The pac12 championship game however is not. Stay the course DAWG fans

    I stopped reading this bullshit after your "Oregon was clearly better for 3.5 quarters" claim. You must have forgotten that UW was up 29 - 18 with the ball prior to Grubb going full retard.
    Oregon failed on 3 4th down attempts. UW didn't stop them. And UW's failed 4th down attempt at the goal line didn't matter.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,020 Founders Club
    So has anyone actually seen DeBoer in Vegas?
  • alumni94alumni94 Member Posts: 4,858

    So has anyone actually seen DeBoer in Vegas?

    In Michigan interviewing…
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