Tony Dungy wouldn't have taken Michael Sam
Kinda puts the outrage junkies in a tough spot.
Former Missouri linebacker, SEC Defensive Player of the Year and openly-gay human being Michael Sam was eventually drafted by the Rams, though it wasn't until the seventh round when St. Louis made history.
Had Super Bowl-winning coach, NBC analyst and noted conservative Tony Dungy been running the Rams, he "wouldn't have taken" Sam. Why? "Things will happen" apparently.
"I wouldn't have taken him,'' Dungy told the Tampa Bay Tribune. “Not because I don't believe Michael Sam should have a chance to play, but I wouldn't want to deal with all of it.
"It's not going to be totally smooth ... things will happen."
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He is a homophobe who should never be allowed to speak in public again. In fact I think we should just kill him.
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Meanwhile, in the Rams (lol, 75k) locker room, things happen...CuntWaffle said:He is a homophobe who should never be allowed to speak in public again. In fact I think we should just kill him.
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If Dungy gets fined 75K for this....that would be the best....ever.
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Dungy. Go ahead and speak your mind about a topic which doesn't have any effect on your life; work or otherwise. Continue to be in the media, reveled as a great coach and leader. An expert on living life and being a champion.
I wonder if his son, the one who committed suicide, was gay didn't feel like he would ever be accepted by his own father? -
Pressing badly.TheGlove said:Dungy. Go ahead and speak your mind about a topic which doesn't have any effect on your life; work or otherwise. Continue to be in the media, reveled as a great coach and leader. An expert on living life and being a champion.
I wonder if his son, the one who committed suicide, was gay didn't feel like he would ever be accepted by his own father? -
Wondering, pressing. Potaytoe, Potahtoe.
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The 'outrage junkies' are in the Dungy camp, hth.
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He should have to go apologize Ed Murray and Barney Frank. Then go on Ellen and cry.CuntWaffle said:He is a homophobe who should never be allowed to speak in public again. In fact I think we should just kill him.
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If Michael Sam somehow becomes the first openly gay player to win a Super Bowl, I will chuckle to myself about the irony of this statement.
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Damoan "gets it"MikeDamone said:
He should have to go apologize Ed Murray and Barney Frank. Then go on Ellen and cry.CuntWaffle said:He is a homophobe who should never be allowed to speak in public again. In fact I think we should just kill him.
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TheGlove said:
Wondering, pressing. Potaytoe, Potahtoe. Potoae.
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I love how society loves killing the guy for speaking what nobody wants to hear ...
Is it going to be smooth sailing for Sam in the locker room? Probably not.
Should that be the case? No ...with caveats.
Do I blame a coach for not necessarily wanting to deal with the what if situations and caveats that may arise? No.
What Dungy is saying is no different than what he might say if he was taking a player with known character issues (i.e. Pacman Jones or Michael Vick). The only difference here is that it is tied to a subject matter that is a hot button topic. -
Did Kim steal you login? Seems like it.Tequilla said:I love how society loves killing the guy for speaking what nobody wants to hear ...
Is it going to be smooth sailing for Sam in the locker room? Probably not.
Should that be the case? No ...with caveats.
Do I blame a coach for not necessarily wanting to deal with the what if situations and caveats that may arise? No.
What Dungy is saying is no different than what he might say if he was taking a player with known character issues (i.e. Pacman Jones or Michael Vick). The only difference here is that it is tied to a subject matter that is a hot button topic. -
Another low tweak by Damoan
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I'm hearing you don't fly off the handle. And you call a spade a spade.Tequilla said:Another low tweak by Damoan
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I wasn't reading many outraged by what Dungy said. The few that are offended are dumbasses who are too stupid to understand what he is saying. There's nothing hateful about it. The world is almost over Michael Sam. When he gets cut, makes the practice squad, or is inactive all next season, there won't be a peep about him.
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It is more of just a huge media blow up than anything (Shocker!), most people I know don't give a fuck about what he said... it is still annoying that some people completely miss the point.RoadDawg55 said:I wasn't reading many outraged by what Dungy said. The few that are offended are dumbasses who are too stupid to understand what he is saying. There's nothing hateful about it. The world is almost over Michael Sam. When he gets cut, makes the practice squad, or is inactive all next season, there won't be a peep about him.
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Disagree. His courage inspires so many of us.RoadDawg55 said:When he gets cut, makes the practice squad, or is inactive all next season, there won't be a peep about him.
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ESPN nation is outraged. This thing has legs!RoadDawg55 said:I wasn't reading many outraged by what Dungy said. The few that are offended are dumbasses who are too stupid to understand what he is saying. There's nothing hateful about it. The world is almost over Michael Sam. When he gets cut, makes the practice squad, or is inactive all next season, there won't be a peep about him.
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Looks like the thought police win again.
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He might have a bit more credibility if he hadn't coached Marvin Harrison for years. Coaching a gay player should be easier than coaching a murderer. IMHO.
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Was there a media circus surrounding Harrison?allpurpleallgold said:He might have a bit more credibility if he hadn't coached Marvin Harrison for years. Coaching a gay player should be easier than coaching a murderer. IMHO.
I think that's what Dungy was getting at here.
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A future hall of fame WR and a guy who hopefully can be a situational pass rusher. There lies the difference.allpurpleallgold said:He might have a bit more credibility if he hadn't coached Marvin Harrison for years. Coaching a gay player should be easier than coaching a murderer. IMHO.
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Lol yes because Marvin Harrison came out before the draft and said "I have killed somebody". Great comparison.allpurpleallgold said:He might have a bit more credibility if he hadn't coached Marvin Harrison for years. Coaching a gay player should be easier than coaching a murderer. IMHO.
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That would have been courageous if he did...CuntWaffle said:
Lol yes because Marvin Harrison came out before the draft and said "I have killed somebody". Great comparison.allpurpleallgold said:He might have a bit more credibility if he hadn't coached Marvin Harrison for years. Coaching a gay player should be easier than coaching a murderer. IMHO.
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What Dungy said in the follow-up makes sense to me. You don't want OWN cameras hovering around training camp.
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Now Dungy is sticking his foot in his mouth. I initially sided with him because it's common sense that a pro football organization doesn't want a media circus around a 7th round pick. In his follow comments, he admits he doesn't agree with Sam's lifestyle. I would have to think that his beliefs played a part in his comments. If I was Sam and Dungy reached out, I'd tell him to fuck off.
http://www.si.com/nfl/2014/07/23/tony-dungy-michael-sam-comments -
"I was not asked whether his sexual orientation should play a part in the evaluation process. It should not."RoadDawg55 said:Now Dungy is sticking his foot in his mouth. I initially sided with him because it's common sense that a pro football organization doesn't want a media circus around a 7th round pick. In his follow comments, he admits he doesn't agree with Sam's lifestyle. I would have to think that his beliefs played a part in his comments. If I was Sam and Dungy reached out, I'd tell him to fuck off.
http://www.si.com/nfl/2014/07/23/tony-dungy-michael-sam-comments
People know he is a devout Christian so him not agreeing with the lifestyle was pretty much already assumed with the outrage.
Again the point is he was asked a question whether he would draft him, and he gave his honest answer. If he would have said "no comment" their still would have been an outrage. So his only angle would to blatantly lie.
I do agree that the follow up interviews to clarify his comments usually just end up hurting the person more and should probably just refuse to do them.... but he would eventually get cornered by some member of the media sooner or later and would have to answer.
Sam had a shitty combine and pre draft work outs and dropped miserably down the ranks of draft charts because of that. So now the question is a 6th/7th round talent who will get more media coverage than maybe only Johnny Manziel worth it? Rams thought so, good for them. Maybe Sam turns out to be a fantastic NFL player... then a lot of teams who thought about drafting him but also wanted to avoid the distractions (and if you believe for one second that a bunch of teams didn't do this you are either extremely naive or just a fucking moron) will get a big slap in the face. -
Dungy's comments have fueled the fire and will create more potential distractions for the Rams.
As I stated before, Dungy's got a platform to express his opinions and he's going to use it. Nothing wrong about that. A more savvy individual would have stepped around the Sam issue and still made his point about dealing with off the field distractions.
