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  • d2dd2d Member Posts: 3,109
    Right-Libertarian (Ayn Rand, Ron Paul, Ludwig von Mises)
    "The Billings Gazette," admitted Friday that they were wrong -- Obama is in fact worse than his predecessor, George W. Bush.

    A refreshing but tiny spot of honesty.
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Enviro-left (Dues-paying member of Greenpeace, Dennis Kucinich)
    If you're voting for an option that includes Ayn Rand, you need to reevaluate your life.
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    edited June 2014
    Enviro-left (Dues-paying member of Greenpeace, Dennis Kucinich)
    dnc said:

    I almost went field, as I have traces of right-republican and right-evangelical in there too. Mostly I'm a libertarian who is against abortion (except in cases where the mother's life is in danger) and dgaf about weed either way.

    Also, FMFYFGOPFDFE

    Yeah I can't wrap my head around abortion positions like that. You think abortion is murdering a child, correct? How is that okay because the mothers life is in danger? Shouldn't that be left to gods will or something?

    Honestly, it seems more like you're making a concession rather than standing by your principles. I respect that you think rape babies shouldn't be aborted. You're a monster for that. But I can respect the principle. I just don't get the mother in danger part.
  • topdawgnctopdawgnc Member Posts: 7,838
    The Field, Hardy har har, Janet Reno, other (list below)... max poll options is 10

    dnc said:

    I almost went field, as I have traces of right-republican and right-evangelical in there too. Mostly I'm a libertarian who is against abortion (except in cases where the mother's life is in danger) and dgaf about weed either way.

    Also, FMFYFGOPFDFE

    Yeah I can't wrap my head around abortion positions like that. You think abortion is murdering a child, correct? How is that okay because the mothers life is in danger? Shouldn't that be left to gods will or something?

    Honestly, it seems more like you're making a concession rather than standing by your principles. I respect that you think rape babies shouldn't be aborted. You're a monster for that. But I can respect the principle. I just don't get the mother in danger part.
    How often do you think this happens?

    Baby has to be aborted to save the mother's life.

    And how often does a rape baby occur?
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,789
    Right-Libertarian (Ayn Rand, Ron Paul, Ludwig von Mises)

    dnc said:

    I almost went field, as I have traces of right-republican and right-evangelical in there too. Mostly I'm a libertarian who is against abortion (except in cases where the mother's life is in danger) and dgaf about weed either way.

    Also, FMFYFGOPFDFE

    Yeah I can't wrap my head around abortion positions like that. You think abortion is murdering a child, correct? How is that okay because the mothers life is in danger? Shouldn't that be left to gods will or something?

    Honestly, it seems more like you're making a concession rather than standing by your principles. I respect that you think rape babies shouldn't be aborted. You're a monster for that. But I can respect the principle. I just don't get the mother in danger part.
    Actually I think it's the most consistent position. I support other situations where you take life to protect life: self defense, war (occasionally), death penalty, etc. I'm for life but not so idealistic as to think there's not situations where you have to pick one life over another. If it's baby or mom I can understand picking mom.

    I think this is extremely massively rare, though.
  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,149 Founders Club
    Center-Left (Bill Clinton, Tip O'Neill, tuff loggers and longshoremen, Scoop Jackson
    9 right-libertarians, and I know there are more out there they haven't seen this yet..

    Wow...
  • CuntWaffleCuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    Right-Libertarian (Ayn Rand, Ron Paul, Ludwig von Mises)

    9 right-libertarians, and I know there are more out there they haven't seen this yet..

    Wow...

    10
  • HeretoBeatmyChestHeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    edited June 2014
    Right-Libertarian (Ayn Rand, Ron Paul, Ludwig von Mises)
    I'm probably more of a left libertarian than right libertarian but whatever. I do think the country is going to grow more libertarian over time. Its moving liberal on social issues (marriage, abortion, drugs). Once the economy gets out of this mess the population will be more in favor of libertarian economic policy. Ron Paul & Gary Johnson will end up being way ahead of their time.
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Enviro-left (Dues-paying member of Greenpeace, Dennis Kucinich)
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    I almost went field, as I have traces of right-republican and right-evangelical in there too. Mostly I'm a libertarian who is against abortion (except in cases where the mother's life is in danger) and dgaf about weed either way.

    Also, FMFYFGOPFDFE

    Yeah I can't wrap my head around abortion positions like that. You think abortion is murdering a child, correct? How is that okay because the mothers life is in danger? Shouldn't that be left to gods will or something?

    Honestly, it seems more like you're making a concession rather than standing by your principles. I respect that you think rape babies shouldn't be aborted. You're a monster for that. But I can respect the principle. I just don't get the mother in danger part.
    Actually I think it's the most consistent position. I support other situations where you take life to protect life: self defense, war (occasionally), death penalty, etc. I'm for life but not so idealistic as to think there's not situations where you have to pick one life over another. If it's baby or mom I can understand picking mom.

    I think this is extremely massively rare, though.
    To be clear, you just compared unborn babies to criminals, murderers and war. And you're calling that your most consistent position.
  • BlackieBlackie Member Posts: 499
    Right-Libertarian (Ayn Rand, Ron Paul, Ludwig von Mises)
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    I almost went field, as I have traces of right-republican and right-evangelical in there too. Mostly I'm a libertarian who is against abortion (except in cases where the mother's life is in danger) and dgaf about weed either way.

    Also, FMFYFGOPFDFE

    Yeah I can't wrap my head around abortion positions like that. You think abortion is murdering a child, correct? How is that okay because the mothers life is in danger? Shouldn't that be left to gods will or something?

    Honestly, it seems more like you're making a concession rather than standing by your principles. I respect that you think rape babies shouldn't be aborted. You're a monster for that. But I can respect the principle. I just don't get the mother in danger part.
    Actually I think it's the most consistent position. I support other situations where you take life to protect life: self defense, war (occasionally), death penalty, etc. I'm for life but not so idealistic as to think there's not situations where you have to pick one life over another. If it's baby or mom I can understand picking mom.

    I think this is extremely massively rare, though.
    Why is the mom's life more valuable than the baby's?
  • doogsinparadisedoogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    Left-Democratic (John Kitzhaber, Patty Murray, Al Franken, Rachel Maddow)
    Blackie said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    I almost went field, as I have traces of right-republican and right-evangelical in there too. Mostly I'm a libertarian who is against abortion (except in cases where the mother's life is in danger) and dgaf about weed either way.

    Also, FMFYFGOPFDFE

    Yeah I can't wrap my head around abortion positions like that. You think abortion is murdering a child, correct? How is that okay because the mothers life is in danger? Shouldn't that be left to gods will or something?

    Honestly, it seems more like you're making a concession rather than standing by your principles. I respect that you think rape babies shouldn't be aborted. You're a monster for that. But I can respect the principle. I just don't get the mother in danger part.
    Actually I think it's the most consistent position. I support other situations where you take life to protect life: self defense, war (occasionally), death penalty, etc. I'm for life but not so idealistic as to think there's not situations where you have to pick one life over another. If it's baby or mom I can understand picking mom.

    I think this is extremely massively rare, though.
    Why is the mom's life more valuable than the baby's?
    Self interest
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,789
    Right-Libertarian (Ayn Rand, Ron Paul, Ludwig von Mises)
    Blackie said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    I almost went field, as I have traces of right-republican and right-evangelical in there too. Mostly I'm a libertarian who is against abortion (except in cases where the mother's life is in danger) and dgaf about weed either way.

    Also, FMFYFGOPFDFE

    Yeah I can't wrap my head around abortion positions like that. You think abortion is murdering a child, correct? How is that okay because the mothers life is in danger? Shouldn't that be left to gods will or something?

    Honestly, it seems more like you're making a concession rather than standing by your principles. I respect that you think rape babies shouldn't be aborted. You're a monster for that. But I can respect the principle. I just don't get the mother in danger part.
    Actually I think it's the most consistent position. I support other situations where you take life to protect life: self defense, war (occasionally), death penalty, etc. I'm for life but not so idealistic as to think there's not situations where you have to pick one life over another. If it's baby or mom I can understand picking mom.

    I think this is extremely massively rare, though.
    Why is the mom's life more valuable than the baby's?
    I didn't say it is, I just said if somebody has to make this choice I'm fine with someone choosing that way. I honestly can't say what I'd choose in that situation.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,789
    edited June 2014
    Right-Libertarian (Ayn Rand, Ron Paul, Ludwig von Mises)

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    I almost went field, as I have traces of right-republican and right-evangelical in there too. Mostly I'm a libertarian who is against abortion (except in cases where the mother's life is in danger) and dgaf about weed either way.

    Also, FMFYFGOPFDFE

    Yeah I can't wrap my head around abortion positions like that. You think abortion is murdering a child, correct? How is that okay because the mothers life is in danger? Shouldn't that be left to gods will or something?

    Honestly, it seems more like you're making a concession rather than standing by your principles. I respect that you think rape babies shouldn't be aborted. You're a monster for that. But I can respect the principle. I just don't get the mother in danger part.
    Actually I think it's the most consistent position. I support other situations where you take life to protect life: self defense, war (occasionally), death penalty, etc. I'm for life but not so idealistic as to think there's not situations where you have to pick one life over another. If it's baby or mom I can understand picking mom.

    I think this is extremely massively rare, though.
    To be clear, you just compared unborn babies to criminals, murderers and war. And you're calling that your most consistent position.
    I didn't say it's *my* most consistent position, I said it's *the* most important position (against abortion). Sounds like GoldShower needs to learn the difference.

    And I didn't compare unborn babies to any of those, I just said I'm willing to acknowledge that sometimes we have to choose one life over the other. It's messy, but that's life.
  • BlackieBlackie Member Posts: 499
    Right-Libertarian (Ayn Rand, Ron Paul, Ludwig von Mises)
    dnc said:

    Blackie said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    I almost went field, as I have traces of right-republican and right-evangelical in there too. Mostly I'm a libertarian who is against abortion (except in cases where the mother's life is in danger) and dgaf about weed either way.

    Also, FMFYFGOPFDFE

    Yeah I can't wrap my head around abortion positions like that. You think abortion is murdering a child, correct? How is that okay because the mothers life is in danger? Shouldn't that be left to gods will or something?

    Honestly, it seems more like you're making a concession rather than standing by your principles. I respect that you think rape babies shouldn't be aborted. You're a monster for that. But I can respect the principle. I just don't get the mother in danger part.
    Actually I think it's the most consistent position. I support other situations where you take life to protect life: self defense, war (occasionally), death penalty, etc. I'm for life but not so idealistic as to think there's not situations where you have to pick one life over another. If it's baby or mom I can understand picking mom.

    I think this is extremely massively rare, though.
    Why is the mom's life more valuable than the baby's?
    I didn't say it is, I just said if somebody has to make this choice I'm fine with someone choosing that way. I honestly can't say what I'd choose in that situation.
    Actually, you implied it: "against abortion (except in cases where the mother's life is in danger)"

    Why kill the baby if it is viable but mom isn't?
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    edited June 2014
    Enviro-left (Dues-paying member of Greenpeace, Dennis Kucinich)
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    I almost went field, as I have traces of right-republican and right-evangelical in there too. Mostly I'm a libertarian who is against abortion (except in cases where the mother's life is in danger) and dgaf about weed either way.

    Also, FMFYFGOPFDFE

    Yeah I can't wrap my head around abortion positions like that. You think abortion is murdering a child, correct? How is that okay because the mothers life is in danger? Shouldn't that be left to gods will or something?

    Honestly, it seems more like you're making a concession rather than standing by your principles. I respect that you think rape babies shouldn't be aborted. You're a monster for that. But I can respect the principle. I just don't get the mother in danger part.
    Actually I think it's the most consistent position. I support other situations where you take life to protect life: self defense, war (occasionally), death penalty, etc. I'm for life but not so idealistic as to think there's not situations where you have to pick one life over another. If it's baby or mom I can understand picking mom.

    I think this is extremely massively rare, though.
    To be clear, you just compared unborn babies to criminals, murderers and war. And you're calling that your most consistent position.
    I didn't say it's *my* most consistent position, I said it's *the* most important position (against abortion). Sounds like GoldShower needs to learn the difference.

    And I didn't compare unborn babies to any of those, I just said I'm willing to acknowledge that sometimes we have to choose one life over the other. It's messy, but that's life.
    You did specifically say "it's the most consistent position". So, if it's the most consistent position , and it's your position, it would be fair to posit that it's your most consistent position. I also think you meant consistent position in regards to all abortion positions which just wasn't how I read it. I don't see how it's more consistent than "unborn babies aren't people, therefore, kill them all you like" though.

    Right. Sometimes we have to choose one over the other. Like when someone is going to kill someone or already has killed someone. Also, when an innocent unborn baby has done nothing at all. Sometimes it's ok to kill them.

    Do you not see how insane that is? How do you justify giving citizens the right to murder an innocent human being in this circumstance?

    You are comparing them. I don't want to be a dictionary asshole, to you at least, but you brought them up to note the similarity (they're all situations that you have to choose one life over another). That's a comparison. If it wasn't a comparison then what the fuck did you bring those situations up for?
  • OZONEOZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    The Field, Hardy har har, Janet Reno, other (list below)... max poll options is 10
    You left out Libertarian Socialism, and Anarcho Capitalism.
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