Pod alert: Peter Zeihan on Rogan
I don’t know if this guym is right about everything but I find his analysis fascinating. I suspect some of yous will not like the Ukraine thoughts at the open.
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Grumble is right, it was a fascinating listen. He gives a George Friedman-type of viewpoint to a lot of stuff that runs contrary to the mainstream narrative. My only major gripe was that he basically called Bitcoin a Ponzi scheme and its clear he hasn't studied it intensely. But overall this guy is brilliant, and Joe showed up for the interview sober and didn't pontificate for half the show instead of featuring his guest.
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In case you missed his mention, Zeihan worked at Stratfor at some point.DerekJohnson said:Grumble is right, it was a fascinating listen. He gives a George Friedman-type of viewpoint to a lot of stuff that runs contrary to the mainstream narrative. My only major gripe was that he basically called Bitcoin a Ponzi scheme and its clear he hasn't studied it intensely. But overall this guy is brilliant, and Joe showed up for the interview sober and didn't pontificate for half the show instead of featuring his guest.
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Bitcoin as a arbitrage IS essentially securities fraud. The unregulated pump and dumping over the last five years or so is pretty obvious. A subcategory of crypto shenanigans.DerekJohnson said:Grumble is right, it was a fascinating listen. He gives a George Friedman-type of viewpoint to a lot of stuff that runs contrary to the mainstream narrative. My only major gripe was that he basically called Bitcoin a Ponzi scheme and its clear he hasn't studied it intensely. But overall this guy is brilliant, and Joe showed up for the interview sober and didn't pontificate for half the show instead of featuring his guest.
Well worth the listen, pods.
As a store of value, its not much different than physical gold. Nobody carries around bars of gold for trade. It's all handled via exchanges. One can't walk intoAlbertsons RIPSafeway and buy a maple bar (fucking delicious greatest pastry of all-tim) with either gold or Bitcoin.
@UW_Doog_Bot could give a much better economics perspective. The Throbber is still a little groggy this morning from an edibles/Guinness Saturday night.
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If I can't hold it in my hands I don't buy it. Precious metals are good stuff. Have been since they were discovered. Bitcoin is like storing your arms and ammo offsite under a strangers control. Won't do you much good when the shit hits the fan.PurpleThrobber said:
Bitcoin as a arbitrage IS essentially securities fraud. The unregulated pump and dumping over the last five years or so is pretty obvious. A subcategory of crypto shenanigans.DerekJohnson said:Grumble is right, it was a fascinating listen. He gives a George Friedman-type of viewpoint to a lot of stuff that runs contrary to the mainstream narrative. My only major gripe was that he basically called Bitcoin a Ponzi scheme and its clear he hasn't studied it intensely. But overall this guy is brilliant, and Joe showed up for the interview sober and didn't pontificate for half the show instead of featuring his guest.
Well worth the listen, pods.
As a store of value, its not much different than physical gold. Nobody carries around bars of gold for trade. It's all handled via exchanges. One can't walk intoAlbertsons RIPSafeway and buy a maple bar (fucking delicious greatest pastry of all-tim) with either gold or Bitcoin.
@UW_Doog_Bot could give a much better economics perspective. The Throbber is still a little groggy this morning from an edibles/Guinness Saturday night.
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I've been picking various 6 minutes clips out of this one on YouTube and listening the past few days. If he know what he's talking about the guy is making some massively bold claims. So far I've heard:
- Russia is a lost cause and will cease to be a major player in the next 30 years due to demographics.
- China is facing major demographics challenges and Xi is vulnerable. Look for China to be irrelevant in the next 10 years.
- Supporting Ukraine is what is preventing nuclear war in Eastern Europe.
- EV's are going to be very short-lived due to lack of minerals and real science on their environmental impacts (I think this is true in the big picture, but doubt the far-left gives them up quickly for risk of admitting they are wrong)
- Russia is a lost cause and will cease to be a major player in the next 30 years due to demographics.
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Didn’t listen yet, but the fellas on No Agenda think the guys a spook.
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Oh yeah, and he's got a dozen others at least as bold. Like I said, I don't know if he's right. What I find valuable is his reasoning behind the claims. And in fairness to him, in his 2014 book, he pretty closely predicted the timming of Russia making a military move to gain a security buffer and resources.BleachedAnusDawg said:I've been picking various 6 minutes clips out of this one on YouTube and listening the past few days. If he know what he's talking about the guy is making some massively bold claims. So far I've heard:
- Russia is a lost cause and will cease to be a major player in the next 30 years due to demographics.
- China is facing major demographics challenges and Xi is vulnerable. Look for China to be irrelevant in the next 10 years.
- Supporting Ukraine is what is preventing nuclear war in Eastern Europe.
- EV's are going to be very short-lived due to lack of minerals and real science on their environmental impacts (I think this is true in the big picture, but doubt the far-left gives them up quickly for risk of admitting they are wrong)
- Russia is a lost cause and will cease to be a major player in the next 30 years due to demographics.
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Interesting, like an active CIA psyoperative or something?UWerentThereMan said:Didn’t listen yet, but the fellas on No Agenda think the guys a spook.
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Russia, particularly Putin is a paranoid schizoid nutcase. There was no security threat to Russia. Was Germany looking for lebensraum? The US was looking to invade Russia? Finland ready to avenge the Russian invasion. I'll agree that the US neocons who wanted to surround Russia with weak ass new NATO members was stupid. As usual, it was something to do to virtue signal and provided absolutely no security advantage to the US. The Ukraine invasion was a huge tactical mistake for which the Russian and Ukraine will be paying for a long time.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Oh yeah, and he's got a dozen others at least as bold. Like I said, I don't know if he's right. What I find valuable is his reasoning behind the claims. And in fairness to him, in his 2014 book, he pretty closely predicted the timing of Russia making a military move to gain a security buffer and resources.BleachedAnusDawg said:I've been picking various 6 minutes clips out of this one on YouTube and listening the past few days. If he know what he's talking about the guy is making some massively bold claims. So far I've heard:
- Russia is a lost cause and will cease to be a major player in the next 30 years due to demographics.
- China is facing major demographics challenges and Xi is vulnerable. Look for China to be irrelevant in the next 10 years.
- Supporting Ukraine is what is preventing nuclear war in Eastern Europe.
- EV's are going to be very short-lived due to lack of minerals and real science on their environmental impacts (I think this is true in the big picture, but doubt the far-left gives them up quickly for risk of admitting they are wrong)
- Russia is a lost cause and will cease to be a major player in the next 30 years due to demographics.
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Interesting. I would disagree with 3 of those 4 takes. The only one I might agree with is Russia potentially losing status in the near future.BleachedAnusDawg said:I've been picking various 6 minutes clips out of this one on YouTube and listening the past few days. If he know what he's talking about the guy is making some massively bold claims. So far I've heard:
- Russia is a lost cause and will cease to be a major player in the next 30 years due to demographics.
- China is facing major demographics challenges and Xi is vulnerable. Look for China to be irrelevant in the next 10 years.
- Supporting Ukraine is what is preventing nuclear war in Eastern Europe.
- EV's are going to be very short-lived due to lack of minerals and real science on their environmental impacts (I think this is true in the big picture, but doubt the far-left gives them up quickly for risk of admitting they are wrong)
- Russia is a lost cause and will cease to be a major player in the next 30 years due to demographics.
