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  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,851 Founders Club

    haie said:

    haie said:

    Fight the Fuck On you fucking turncoats!

    Let's hope UW was/is smart enough to make the same move if/when offered the same B1G opportunity
    UW and Oregon didn't kill the conference, SC did.
    Nah, the league was already on a death march when USC and UCLA made a clear-cut business decision last summer.

    It was clueless and resentful Pac-12 presidents who've long resented the emphasis on football/men's basketball and believed an "All Sports Matter" approach was the best path forward
    Even with that mindset, if you look at this year and see half the teams ranked and a non bottom feeder SC moving forward you feel good about a new TV deal and good *enough* money.

    If SC isn't a bunch of quitters and make the playoffs against Michigan it helps it even more with the new contract just a season away.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,573
    haie said:

    Fight the Fuck On you fucking turncoats!

    We disagree on a lot of stuff, but I feel at least you and I have some mutual respect for each other. And posts like this, make me remember why.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,432
    edited January 2023

    haie said:

    haie said:

    Fight the Fuck On you fucking turncoats!

    Let's hope UW was/is smart enough to make the same move if/when offered the same B1G opportunity
    UW and Oregon didn't kill the conference, SC did.
    Nah, the league was already on a death march when USC and UCLA made a clear-cut business decision last summer.

    It was clueless and resentful Pac-12 presidents who've long resented the emphasis on football/men's basketball and believed an "All Sports Matter" approach was the best path forward
    There is something to this. The current P12 commercial is focused on "Olympic sports." They actually use those words: "If you're in an Olympic sport, the P12 is the place to be," or something like that.

    With that said, that mindset could have been influenced/changed. It's like any political movement: it just needs a push. And football has the ace card: none of the schools in the P12 other than Stanford and, maybe, USC, can afford to bank roll a bunch of non-revenue sports w/o football to act as a massive subsidy. No football bucks, no Olympic Buck Rodgers. Washington and Oregon leaving will be the true death blow.

    I will always believe the western schools belong together, that regional schools should continue to align themselves regionally, and that this (conference realignment) is what is upsetting the natural order of things. But, here we go.
  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,946 Founders Club

    haie said:

    haie said:

    Fight the Fuck On you fucking turncoats!

    Let's hope UW was/is smart enough to make the same move if/when offered the same B1G opportunity
    UW and Oregon didn't kill the conference, SC did.
    Nah, the league was already on a death march when USC and UCLA made a clear-cut business decision last summer.

    It was clueless and resentful Pac-12 presidents who've long resented the emphasis on football/men's basketball and believed an "All Sports Matter" approach was the best path forward
    There is something to this. The current P12 commercial is focused on "Olympic sports." They actually use those words: "If you're in an Olympic sport, the P12 is the place to be," or something like that.

    With that said, that mindset could have been influenced/changed. It's like any political movement: it just needs a push. And football has the ace card: none of the schools in the P12 other than Stanford and, maybe, USC, can afford to bank roll a bunch of non-revenue sports w/o football to act as a massive subsidy. No football bucks, no Olympic Buck Rodgers. Washington and Oregon leaving will be the true death blow.

    I will always believe the western schools belong together, that regional schools should continue to align themselves regionally, and that this (conference realignment) is what is upsetting the natural order of things. But, here we go.
    Second time today I’ve read that quote.