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  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 13,014
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,429 Founders Club
    How many "Prime" games is CBS going to give a shit about other than Washington/Oregon? Some November game where two top 2/3 teams happen to be playing each other?

    As always, Oregon and Washington needs to demand a higher % of revenue.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,358
    edited December 2022

    Fuck the Pac and the coogs

    As usual

    Leave our mountain west cousins now

    Mountain West Oregon State looks ready for SEC ball...
    No they don't
    They are making Florida look like an FCS team
    Same Florida team that beat Utah when they didn’t play their second string in a shit tier bowl nobody cares about.
    Getting up for a big home OOC game to kick off the year is easy


    Still having a good team after a long season and attrition is the hard part

    Utah also is using the Petersen choke playbook
    This conference champion always loses to a mediocre sec team. Utah was up for that game too. It’s not like they weren’t prepared or it snuck up on them.

    2018 uw vs auburn
    2019 Oregon vs auburn
    2022 Utah vs Florida.

    The pac 12 top tier is soft. Over a decade ago usc and Oregon blew those types of teams out at home and on the road.

    Usc vs Arkansas and auburn and Ohio st for good measure.
    Oregon dominated Tennessee with chip.

    Not the case lately.
    notice that all of those games were played in the south, and in all of them the better team (the pac 12 team) choked at the very end

    Florida went to Vegas and got fucking SMASHED. By Oregon State and Jonathan Smith

    To its credit, the SEC is going west more often these days. Dont we have a home and home with Tenn?
    Was there a point in there? Now that you said the pac 12 champs choke all those times that totally changed everything.

    The conference has not always been this bad. We know what good teams look like. Has not been one out here for over a decade.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,673
    edited December 2022

    Fuck the Pac and the coogs

    As usual

    Leave our mountain west cousins now

    Mountain West Oregon State looks ready for SEC ball...
    No they don't
    They are making Florida look like an FCS team
    Same Florida team that beat Utah when they didn’t play their second string in a shit tier bowl nobody cares about.
    Getting up for a big home OOC game to kick off the year is easy


    Still having a good team after a long season and attrition is the hard part

    Utah also is using the Petersen choke playbook
    This conference champion always loses to a mediocre sec team. Utah was up for that game too. It’s not like they weren’t prepared or it snuck up on them.

    2018 uw vs auburn
    2019 Oregon vs auburn
    2022 Utah vs Florida.

    The pac 12 top tier is soft. Over a decade ago usc and Oregon blew those types of teams out at home and on the road.

    Usc vs Arkansas and auburn and Ohio st for good measure.
    Oregon dominated Tennessee with chip.

    Not the case lately.
    notice that all of those games were played in the south, and in all of them the better team (the pac 12 team) choked at the very end

    Florida went to Vegas and got fucking SMASHED. By Oregon State and Jonathan Smith

    To its credit, the SEC is going west more often these days. Dont we have a home and home with Tenn?
    Was there a point in there? Now that you said the pac 12 champs choke all those times that totally changed everything.

    The conference has not always been this bad. We know what good teams look like. Has not been one out here for over a decade.
    Fuck off

    The point is crystal clear.

    The Pac 12 needs to schedule home and homes, games in Vegas, or kill itself

    No more "neutral site" games in Atlanta.

    I don't know if you know this, and it seems like you dont, but it is hard to win on the road in big OOC matchups.
  • Doog_de_Jour
    Doog_de_Jour Member Posts: 8,042 Standard Supporter
    When USC and UCLA said they were LEAVE!ing for the Big 10, I was pissed Oregon and Washington didn’t get taken along, and was convinced it was the death knell of the Pac 12 (which has been on life support for awhile).

    Now I’m more in LIPO mode. An Amazon deal would help (but CHRIST, anything is better than what the conference has now, so super low fucking bar), but with the upcoming college playoff expansion I doubt this would delay the inevitable: all conferences will continue to get reshuffled.
  • theknowledge
    theknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,835 Founders Club

    When USC and UCLA said they were LEAVE!ing for the Big 10, I was pissed Oregon and Washington didn’t get taken along, and was convinced it was the death knell of the Pac 12 (which has been on life support for awhile).

    Now I’m more in LIPO mode. An Amazon deal would help (but CHRIST, anything is better than what the conference has now, so super low fucking bar), but with the upcoming college playoff expansion I doubt this would delay the inevitable: all conferences will continue to get reshuffled.

    I waffle on this. Getting enough money to stay competitive with the B12 and the ACC is great I guess but if the P12 is cutting out ESPN to do it that, it might not be such a great idea. Like selling the rights to game times to ESPN 12years ago and them showing the majority of P12 games after bedtime on the east coast, selling to Amazon and losing the sliver of interest the narrative makers at ESPN have in P12 football seems risky. I'm afraid that ESPN who currently owns over half P12 rights and cares little to none about P12 football will essentially turn their backs on the conference if they are cut out. May as well be the Big Sky. ESPN runs the CFP. Outside of the Oregon Duck mascot and Deion Sanders they will have no reason to talk P12 football. Ever. They own the ACC, they own the SEC, they own the B12 and the Big 10 is too big to ignore. Where does that leave the Pac? 40 million a year will feel pretty cold when they will essentially be on the dark side of the moon trying to survive. Give ESPN one after dark game a week. Stay on the network so they can't forget about you.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,429 Founders Club
    edited December 2022
    Finebaum just said he thinks UO and UW are the next to leave for the B1G. Says it hasn't officially happened yet because of scheduling (can't take 4-5 schools at a time).

    This guy has never given a shit about anything besides the SEC, seems more credible than Neuheisel even.

    And there's still no Pac media deal.
  • LawDawg1
    LawDawg1 Member Posts: 3,945
    dnc said:

    Yes staying in the Pac gives us? a better chance of getting clown stomped in a 12 game playoff.

    I'd rather have a chance of actually winning the playoff.

    We?ll never compete with the big boys on the field if we can't compete with them financially, especially not in the NIL/transfer portal college free agency world we now live in.

    UW NIL > tOSU NIL. It’s been reported so it just be true.
  • LawDawg1
    LawDawg1 Member Posts: 3,945

    When USC and UCLA said they were LEAVE!ing for the Big 10, I was pissed Oregon and Washington didn’t get taken along, and was convinced it was the death knell of the Pac 12 (which has been on life support for awhile).

    Now I’m more in LIPO mode. An Amazon deal would help (but CHRIST, anything is better than what the conference has now, so super low fucking bar), but with the upcoming college playoff expansion I doubt this would delay the inevitable: all conferences will continue to get reshuffled.

    I waffle on this. Getting enough money to stay competitive with the B12 and the ACC is great I guess but if the P12 is cutting out ESPN to do it that, it might not be such a great idea. Like selling the rights to game times to ESPN 12years ago and them showing the majority of P12 games after bedtime on the east coast, selling to Amazon and losing the sliver of interest the narrative makers at ESPN have in P12 football seems risky. I'm afraid that ESPN who currently owns over half P12 rights and cares little to none about P12 football will essentially turn their backs on the conference if they are cut out. May as well be the Big Sky. ESPN runs the CFP. Outside of the Oregon Duck mascot and Deion Sanders they will have no reason to talk P12 football. Ever. They own the ACC, they own the SEC, they own the B12 and the Big 10 is too big to ignore. Where does that leave the Pac? 40 million a year will feel pretty cold when they will essentially be on the dark side of the moon trying to survive. Give ESPN one after dark game a week. Stay on the network so they can't forget about you.
    That way when they do broadcast your game they can put cupcakes on your field and talk shit TO YOUR FACE!