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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,541 Founders Club
    Not firing the guy who got you to the Finals was what they needed to do
  • theknowledge
    theknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,835 Founders Club

    As I get older, the hot take bullshit gets more annoying. The Celtics should keep their core. They aren’t going to get better by trading Jaylen Brown. Horford, Smart, and other role players are the ones to switch out.

    They should maybe get a new coach or at least get him some veteran assistants that know defensive schemes. If it was Doc Rivers, I would fire him but Mazzula is 34 years old and got thrown into the job. He can and should improve with time.

    The roster is maybe the best in the NBA and the two best players are still young. I would change the coach before changing out a 25+ per game scorer. They will never be a dynasty, but Tatum and Brown have a championship in them.

    A few years ago, the hot take was that Giannis would never win in Milwaukee and had to leave. He won a title the next year. The NBA is easily the professional league most swayed by public opinion. It’s a disappointing year for the Celtics, but continuity does matter.

    Brown is 26 and Tatum is 25. I could see giving them a couple more cracks at it. Jordan, I. Thomas and LeBron were all 27 when they won their first. Magic had Kareem, Duncan had Robinson, Kobe had Shaq, Bird had Maxwell and Archibald. Problem is, I just don’t think Brown or Tatum are that kind of player. Tatum would be the closest of the two but I think you’re looking at a franchise that has two Pippens and no Jordan. Two Klay Thompsons but no Curry. Two Tony Parker’s but no Tim Duncan. Probably HOF good but not an all timer to push you over the top. Maybe if they found a Larry Brown type coach that could create a formula for success not involving 45 threes a game and centering around defense they could scratch out a title. Who knows, I’m skeptical.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,393 Standard Supporter

    Mazzula is on the spectrum. NTTAWWT

    They need a real coach not an apprentice.

    Stealing Mike Brown would be a good start. He already knows how to handle big boy egos from Lebron's early years and his time with the Warriors.







    Mike Brown? Seriously?
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,539 Standard Supporter
    Boston's coach sucks

    Mazzula is on the spectrum. NTTAWWT

    They need a real coach not an apprentice.

    Stealing Mike Brown would be a good start. He already knows how to handle big boy egos from Lebron's early years and his time with the Warriors.




    Mike Brown? Seriously?
    Pick someone else then.

    With experience dealing with massive egos.



  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,393 Standard Supporter
    edited June 2023

    Boston's coach sucks

    Mazzula is on the spectrum. NTTAWWT

    They need a real coach not an apprentice.

    Stealing Mike Brown would be a good start. He already knows how to handle big boy egos from Lebron's early years and his time with the Warriors.




    Mike Brown? Seriously?
    Pick someone else then.

    With experience dealing with massive egos.



    If you want a coach with experience, Nick Nurse or Budholzter. Both are better than Mike Brown. Mike Brown also already has a job and contract. This isn’t college football where coaches bounce around unless they get fired.

    Why are you so stuck on big egos and what has Mike Brown ever won?
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,539 Standard Supporter

    Boston's coach sucks

    Mazzula is on the spectrum. NTTAWWT

    They need a real coach not an apprentice.

    Stealing Mike Brown would be a good start. He already knows how to handle big boy egos from Lebron's early years and his time with the Warriors.




    Mike Brown? Seriously?
    Pick someone else then.

    With experience dealing with massive egos.



    If you want a coach with experience, Nick Nurse or Budholzter. Both are better than Mike Brown. Mike Brown also already has a job and contract. This isn’t college football where coaches bounce around unless they get fired.

    Why are you so stuck on big egos and what has Mike Brown ever won?
    Nurse and Bud would be similar. Older, experienced.

    Let's be clear - Nurse won with Kawhi and Bud won with Giannis. Neither Brown nor Tatum are Kawhi and Giannis but egos (Tatum's especially) are more on the LeBron level.

    Brown has reached ceiling in Sac with the available talent. His window will close as the young core starts entering free agency. Get while the getting is good.

    People forget Bud spent time with Atlanta and parted ways to go to Milwaukee. So changing teams does happen in the NBA.

    Common thread - they all come from the Popp tree.


  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,393 Standard Supporter



    Boston's coach sucks

    Mazzula is on the spectrum. NTTAWWT

    They need a real coach not an apprentice.

    Stealing Mike Brown would be a good start. He already knows how to handle big boy egos from Lebron's early years and his time with the Warriors.




    Mike Brown? Seriously?
    Pick someone else then.

    With experience dealing with massive egos.



    If you want a coach with experience, Nick Nurse or Budholzter. Both are better than Mike Brown. Mike Brown also already has a job and contract. This isn’t college football where coaches bounce around unless they get fired.

    Why are you so stuck on big egos and what has Mike Brown ever won?
    Nurse and Bud would be similar. Older, experienced.

    Let's be clear - Nurse won with Kawhi and Bud won with Giannis. Neither Brown nor Tatum are Kawhi and Giannis but egos (Tatum's especially) are more on the LeBron level.

    Brown has reached ceiling in Sac with the available talent. His window will close as the young core starts entering free agency. Get while the getting is good.

    People forget Bud spent time with Atlanta and parted ways to go to Milwaukee. So changing teams does happen in the NBA.

    Common thread - they all come from the Popp tree.


    Bud got fired from Atlanta. The Clippers trading for Doc is the only time I can remember a coach under contract changing teams. And they had to trade for him.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,435 Founders Club
    Kaepsknee said:

    So many @haie takes in the last few pages of this thread.

    This is the 3rd NBA finals that Coach Spo has made without Bron. And Jimmy was a bad blockout by a teammate by winning this in 6.

    Denver and Miami play the same game. Disciplined ball movement and good D with few live ball TO’s And neither get rattled. Most teams would have folded up the tent after losing that game 6 that way and having to go back to Boston for 7. But coach reminded them that they owned that building.

    I think Denver will have their hands full in this one. Miami gets 3 guys scoring every night without Bam. And He’s prolly gonna get his shot back. I like #mynuggies still. But in no less than 6 games.

    Thanks for reading.

    Looks like everyone is right about Denver.

    No one gives a fuck about "disciplined ball movement" at the NBA level.
  • whlinder
    whlinder Member Posts: 5,387
    I am apparently very late in fully appreciating Nicola Jokic. Holy shit that dood.

    The GOAT Serbian athlete is without question the Tug's Novak Djokovic but Jokic with 2 MVPs and laying waste to all competition in the playoffs is building a foundation to have a claim someday.
  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,231
    whlinder said:

    I am apparently very late in fully appreciating Nicola Jokic. Holy shit that dood.

    The GOAT Serbian athlete is without question the Tug's Novak Djokovic but Jokic with 2 MVPs and laying waste to all competition in the playoffs is building a foundation to have a claim someday.

    He will be a top 5 player of all time by the time he hangs it up.