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DoogieMcDoogerson

1st in Passing Yards per Game (380)
8th in Points per Game (42.1)
9th in Total Yards offense per Game (512.3)
Most Yards in nation by QB, Michael Penix, 2560
9th most receiving yards by a WR, Rome Odunze, 693

20TD to 4INT for Penix, completing 67.4% of his passes, sacked 3 times all year.

This is a good offense. Is it a "normal" husky offense where we "Run the Damn Ball" - no, but you can't argue with the effectiveness of the O and the days of being a top tier "RTDB" college football team are long gone. You've got to have a high flying offense to compete and we sure as hell do have one this year.

Defense is a big problem, obviously.
- Is it the athletes?
- Is it the coaching/scheme?

Looking at our defensive unit, I feel like we have the athletes on the D-line. We're very thin at LB and lack quality athletes and are probably even more thin in the secondary. I am not so sure that coaching and scheme is the problem just yet. Fresno state did not give up a ton of points last year with a lot of the same coaches.




We have something here with Deboer and Grubb. Let's get some better athletes in here on D via recruiting and see what happens. Deboer is unlikely to make coaching changes on D after this season, frankly.

chuck

DoogieMcDoogerson said:

1st in Passing Yards per Game (380)
8th in Points per Game (42.1)
9th in Total Yards offense per Game (512.3)
Most Yards in nation by QB, Michael Penix, 2560
9th most receiving yards by a WR, Rome Odunze, 693

20TD to 4INT for Penix, completing 67.4% of his passes, sacked 3 times all year.

This is a good offense. Is it a "normal" husky offense where we "Run the Damn Ball" - no, but you can't argue with the effectiveness of the O and the days of being a top tier "RTDB" college football team are long gone. You've got to have a high flying offense to compete and we sure as hell do have one this year.

Defense is a big problem, obviously.
- Is it the athletes?
- Is it the coaching/scheme?

Looking at our defensive unit, I feel like we have the athletes on the D-line. We're very thin at LB and lack quality athletes and are probably even more thin in the secondary. I am not so sure that coaching and scheme is the problem just yet. Fresno state did not give up a ton of points last year with a lot of the same coaches.




We have something here with Deboer and Grubb. Let's get some better athletes in here on D via recruiting and see what happens. Deboer is unlikely to make coaching changes on D after this season, frankly.

I'm in the camp that the defense is bad because it's so low on talent.

But...it's these guys' job to address that. They haven't had much of a chance for a complete overhaul of the back 7, but the effort inbthe first go round was not very good. They need to do better with the portal.

I'm still LIPO but, if I get to be AD this offseason, the whole defensive staff is on notice and the head man has to answer for them.

CFetters_Nacho_Lover

We? lost to an interim coach and a walk on QB. I’m already using #firekalendeboer on Twitter.

Mad_Son

Talent is an issue, but maybe we shouldn't play so much man coverage then. Play to the talent you have, not the scheme you want.

Canadawg

The DBs and Safeties aren't just not making plays they're often confused presnap and 5 yards from the receiver when the ball arrives. That's not only poor talent doing that

AtomicDawg

The defensive staff has a teaching problem I think. At least in the secondary. Bad tackling, horrible angles, bad coverage, face guarding and getting juked, giving up the inside with zero help. I don’t understand the rotation either.

This is probably the worst I remember our secondary playing over the past 30 years. We should be experts on shit football by now enough to trust what we see.

TheHB

Careful with all the negativity toward the coaching about the defense. Some panties are bound to be bunched around here from such talk.

LebamDawg

I looked at those numbers and came out with we should score in the 50"s this week.

Trends, I like trends.
Will probably give up 60

NoWarningJustDawg

I think largely a talent issue. Too many of the existing "stars"...aren't. Too easy to LEAVE when there's a coaching change, and too little P5/big win history for DeBoer to convince some talent to stay. If he's the guy that will change and DeBoer will convince more difference-makers to come here. If not, he's gone. EWIWBI
Ole Miss brought in like 17 transfers IIRC and is undefeated and #7. Penix is basically an advertisement for his offense and hopefully can extend us from 5 to 6 and onward towards respectability.

DoogieMcDoogerson

AtomicDawg said:

The defensive staff has a teaching problem I think. At least in the secondary. Bad tackling, horrible angles, bad coverage, face guarding and getting juked, giving up the inside with zero help. I don’t understand the rotation either.

This is probably the worst I remember our secondary playing over the past 30 years. We should be experts on shit football by now enough to trust what we see.

The 2008 Huskies Secondary has entered the chat.



That said, the last several years we've had 2,3 or 4 guys playing in the secondary that ultimately make it to the NFL. We don't have any guys in our secondary playing in games right now that are going to the NFL. This is a recruiting problem...when did we stop recruiting DBs and Safeties? Quite a while ago.

3 safeties recruited in '22 - all 3 *s
21 class has corners and safeties but they appear to be largely whiffs. Maybe Banks will become a contributor.
20 class had Covington
19 had McDuffie, KamFab, Cam Williams

Some of the '18 guys are still here I think but recruiting for the secondary has been a weak point for some time.

I see 3, maybe 4 guys verbally commited for the secondary in the 2023 class. Gonna need some transfers.

AtomicDawg

DoogieMcDoogerson said:

AtomicDawg said:

The defensive staff has a teaching problem I think. At least in the secondary. Bad tackling, horrible angles, bad coverage, face guarding and getting juked, giving up the inside with zero help. I don’t understand the rotation either.

This is probably the worst I remember our secondary playing over the past 30 years. We should be experts on shit football by now enough to trust what we see.

The 2008 Huskies Secondary has entered the chat.



That said, the last several years we've had 2,3 or 4 guys playing in the secondary that ultimately make it to the NFL. We don't have any guys in our secondary playing in games right now that are going to the NFL. This is a recruiting problem...when did we stop recruiting DBs and Safeties? Quite a while ago.

3 safeties recruited in '22 - all 3 *s
21 class has corners and safeties but they appear to be largely whiffs. Maybe Banks will become a contributor.
20 class had Covington
19 had McDuffie, KamFab, Cam Williams

Some of the '18 guys are still here I think but recruiting for the secondary has been a weak point for some time.

I see 3, maybe 4 guys verbally commited for the secondary in the 2023 class. Gonna need some transfers.

Those guys were definitely bad too. Both are unacceptable.

DoogieMcDoogerson

Tripper Johnson is now a baseball agent:



https://www.apexbaseball.com/apex-team

Canadawg

TheHB said:

Careful with all the negativity toward the coaching about the defense. Some panties are bound to be bunched around here from such talk.

Is this a DM copypasta

UW_Doog_Bot

DoogieMcDoogerson said:

AtomicDawg said:

The defensive staff has a teaching problem I think. At least in the secondary. Bad tackling, horrible angles, bad coverage, face guarding and getting juked, giving up the inside with zero help. I don’t understand the rotation either.

This is probably the worst I remember our secondary playing over the past 30 years. We should be experts on shit football by now enough to trust what we see.

The 2008 Huskies Secondary has entered the chat.



That said, the last several years we've had 2,3 or 4 guys playing in the secondary that ultimately make it to the NFL. We don't have any guys in our secondary playing in games right now that are going to the NFL. This is a recruiting problem...when did we stop recruiting DBs and Safeties? Quite a while ago.

3 safeties recruited in '22 - all 3 *s
21 class has corners and safeties but they appear to be largely whiffs. Maybe Banks will become a contributor.
20 class had Covington
19 had McDuffie, KamFab, Cam Williams

Some of the '18 guys are still here I think but recruiting for the secondary has been a weak point for some time.

I see 3, maybe 4 guys verbally commited for the secondary in the 2023 class. Gonna need some transfers.

Do we? Think this is the 9th place secondary in talent in the conference?

The pass rush has been decent to good(not great) and is definitely better than middle of the conference.

Even IF the talent isn't top flight this coaching staff is getting less with less.

There's an argument for "shoot outs rack up yards" and all.

BUT Still...12th place passing defense...

GreenRiverGatorz

DoogieMcDoogerson said:

Tripper Johnson is now a baseball agent:



https://www.apexbaseball.com/apex-team

Good for Tripper. Looks like he reps Pete Alonso. Who's his Cy Young winner client?

RaceBannon

Yes the game has changed and offense is king but you still need stops when you need them and you still need a yard when you need it unless you want to be a high scoring mediocre ball club

FireTheJanitor

I’m largely in the camp that Jimmy Lake was more hell bent on leveraging Saban “interest” and anything else he could to advance himself, and never got better as a coach. As the initial wave of recruits largely succeeded Jimmy pivoted to big timing recruits instead of doing what every coach hates doing, but does anyways, and bows down to the kids. He told them to fuck off and asked them to come to UW and be coached by two dipshits. It kinda worked when we “won” recruiting battles for Asa and a few other guys; but is also why we have no depth left in the secondary. Most kids told him to fuck off years ago and the ones that didn’t either left early understandably or suck. We’re left with the suck and then the two years of Covid recruiting where Jimmy did more of nothing.

The portal isn’t some automatic solution either. Most of those kids suck and are in the portal for a reason. Expecting us to develop a competent secondary next season with the suck left behind and the portal is still bleak as fuck, in my opinion.

TL,Can’t Read: Talent sucks because Jimmy Sucks. No quick fixes.

chuck

Jimmy fucked the defense badly for sure, especially the secondary.

As far as the portal goes, I think it's correct that most of the guys you can find at some positions are there because they're bad. Corner and safety may be examples. Basically the positions where players are willing to lipo for 2-3 years before bailing are going to be weaker in the portal than offensive skill spots where top prospects will portal right away at the drop of a hat.

There are big time guys available, but UW won't hang with the big dicks in free agency. I expect good RBs and receivers to come out of the portal. I'm skeptical about dbs though. The competition for the few good ones is too tough.

MelloDawg

GreenRiverGatorz said:

DoogieMcDoogerson said:

Tripper Johnson is now a baseball agent:



https://www.apexbaseball.com/apex-team

Good for Tripper. Looks like he reps Pete Alonso. Who's his Cy Young winner client?

Gaylord Perry

HHBruh

Agree! Was thinking the Coaches want the D to be X but can’t get there with AB or C.

Get the Fuck over it and figure out what you got. Like, I want my car to be fast and turn heads but alas, it’s still a 72 VW squareback.

Mad_Son said:

Talent is an issue, but maybe we shouldn't play so much man coverage then. Play to the talent you have, not the scheme you want.

DerekJohnson

HHBruh said:

Agree! Was thinking the Coaches want the D to be X but can’t get there with AB or C.

Get the Fuck over it and figure out what you got. Like, I want my car to be fast and turn heads but alas, it’s still a 72 VW squareback.

Mad_Son said:

Talent is an issue, but maybe we shouldn't play so much man coverage then. Play to the talent you have, not the scheme you want.

Pretty sure a 72 VW squareback would turn heads