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Never hire the career coordinatorRaceBannon said:Venables is a coordinator pretending to be a head coach
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Also, his name is Brent.RaceBannon said:Venables is a coordinator pretending to be a head coach
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ntxduck said:
Never hire the career coordinatorRaceBannon said:Venables is a coordinator pretending to be a head coach
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He's the closest you'll ever get to a national championship.dtd said:ntxduck said:
Never hire the career coordinatorRaceBannon said:Venables is a coordinator pretending to be a head coach
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Chip got a hell of a lot closerhaie said:
He's the closest you'll ever get to a national championship.dtd said:ntxduck said:
Never hire the career coordinatorRaceBannon said:Venables is a coordinator pretending to be a head coach
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A retard got Oregon close to a natty. Thanks for playing, the dumbest motherfucker to ever poast here.haie said:
He's the closest you'll ever get to a national championship.dtd said:ntxduck said:
Never hire the career coordinatorRaceBannon said:Venables is a coordinator pretending to be a head coach
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It has only been six games. I’m with you in that it is possible the coaching is fine. They could also get better. However, they look so bad right now that if there is not improvement, bring in a stud DC and let him take over that side of the ball.theknowledge said:Is Brent Venables a shitty defensive coach? Oklahoma has arguably a worse defense than UW. Is it Venables? His players? They are probably not all 0* white walk-ons. Maybe his scheme is harder to figure out than Grinch's was? Who knows? Was Dave Aranda a shitty defensive coach? He took over a defense in 2020 that gave up 19.8ppg. His first defense gave up 29.2. This shit happens in year one. If UW's offense was always Petersens whether Smith or Bush was calling the plays (which I agree with) then Oklahomas or Baylors defenses are/were all Venables/Arandas. I give these defensive coaches until the first game of next year to figure this shit out. Not fixed? Then I'm out, not until then.
It is too early to completely write off some of the players. They don’t look good but Elijah Jackson and Banks are freshman and are playing because of injuries and shitty depth.
Budda was terrible his first 2-3 games. Sidney Jones had some rough games as a freshman. King sucked for years. What we do need to see is improvement and we will have a better idea if the coaching is competent.
If it’s a talent issue, we need to hit the portal hard and bring in a bunch of guys to creat competition and get better. -
dtd said:ntxduck said:
Never hire the career coordinatorRaceBannon said:Venables is a coordinator pretending to be a head coach
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Now do Aranda.RaceBannon said:Venables is a coordinator pretending to be a head coach
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Weird examples since Aranda fired his offensive coordinator after a disastrous offense led them to a 2-7 record in 2020. That was his first season. And you can bet your ass Venables will also be door-ass-outting a good number of his staff as well at the end of what will inevitably be a pitiful first year for him.theknowledge said:Is Brent Venables a shitty defensive coach? Oklahoma has arguably a worse defense than UW. Is it Venables? His players? They are probably not all 0* white walk-ons. Maybe his scheme is harder to figure out than Grinch's was? Who knows? Was Dave Aranda a shitty defensive coach? He took over a defense in 2020 that gave up 19.8ppg. His first defense gave up 29.2. This shit happens in year one. If UW's offense was always Petersens whether Smith or Bush was calling the plays (which I agree with) then Oklahomas or Baylors defenses are/were all Venables/Arandas. I give these defensive coaches until the first game of next year to figure this shit out. Not fixed? Then I'm out, not until then.
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Make metheknowledge said:
Now do Aranda.RaceBannon said:Venables is a coordinator pretending to be a head coach
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They are both examples of guys with bad defense in their first year of P5 coaching. What’s different is that both are defensive coaches. Aranda stayed his course on defense and it panned out in year two. KDB has worked with these defensive guys in the past. They’ll get another year. It took these same guys until year two to be defensively successful at Fresno. In the 80’s in total defense in 2019, in the 20’s their second year in 2021. And before you say, this ain’t the WAC, Dickert was DC at Wyoming before WSU. His defense at Wazzu is good. Better than UWs anyway.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Weird examples since Aranda fired his offensive coordinator after a disastrous offense led them to a 2-7 record in 2020. That was his first season. And you can bet your ass Venables will also be door-ass-outting a good number of his staff as well at the end of what will inevitably be a pitiful first year for him.theknowledge said:Is Brent Venables a shitty defensive coach? Oklahoma has arguably a worse defense than UW. Is it Venables? His players? They are probably not all 0* white walk-ons. Maybe his scheme is harder to figure out than Grinch's was? Who knows? Was Dave Aranda a shitty defensive coach? He took over a defense in 2020 that gave up 19.8ppg. His first defense gave up 29.2. This shit happens in year one. If UW's offense was always Petersens whether Smith or Bush was calling the plays (which I agree with) then Oklahomas or Baylors defenses are/were all Venables/Arandas. I give these defensive coaches until the first game of next year to figure this shit out. Not fixed? Then I'm out, not until then.
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I chortled. Thank you.RaceBannon said:
Make metheknowledge said:
Now do Aranda.RaceBannon said:Venables is a coordinator pretending to be a head coach
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Huh? I said Aranda fired his OC, not DC. Not that that makes a difference. Coaches fire bad assistants. You made a shitty analogy to try to prove a bad point. It happens.theknowledge said:
They are both examples of guys with bad defense in their first year of P5 coaching. What’s different is that both are defensive coaches. Aranda stayed his course on defense and it panned out in year two. KDB has worked with these defensive guys in the past. They’ll get another year. It took these same guys until year two to be defensively successful at Fresno. In the 80’s in total defense in 2019, in the 20’s their second year in 2021. And before you say, this ain’t the WAC, Dickert was DC at Wyoming before WSU. His defense at Wazzu is good. Better than UWs anyway.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Weird examples since Aranda fired his offensive coordinator after a disastrous offense led them to a 2-7 record in 2020. That was his first season. And you can bet your ass Venables will also be door-ass-outting a good number of his staff as well at the end of what will inevitably be a pitiful first year for him.theknowledge said:Is Brent Venables a shitty defensive coach? Oklahoma has arguably a worse defense than UW. Is it Venables? His players? They are probably not all 0* white walk-ons. Maybe his scheme is harder to figure out than Grinch's was? Who knows? Was Dave Aranda a shitty defensive coach? He took over a defense in 2020 that gave up 19.8ppg. His first defense gave up 29.2. This shit happens in year one. If UW's offense was always Petersens whether Smith or Bush was calling the plays (which I agree with) then Oklahomas or Baylors defenses are/were all Venables/Arandas. I give these defensive coaches until the first game of next year to figure this shit out. Not fixed? Then I'm out, not until then.
And lmao at WSU's defense being the new blueprint. Fucking Christ. -
GreenRiverGatorz said:
Huh? I said Aranda fired his OC, not DC. Not that that makes a difference. Coaches fire bad assistants. You made a shitty analogy to try to prove a bad point. It happens.theknowledge said:
They are both examples of guys with bad defense in their first year of P5 coaching. What’s different is that both are defensive coaches. Aranda stayed his course on defense and it panned out in year two. KDB has worked with these defensive guys in the past. They’ll get another year. It took these same guys until year two to be defensively successful at Fresno. In the 80’s in total defense in 2019, in the 20’s their second year in 2021. And before you say, this ain’t the WAC, Dickert was DC at Wyoming before WSU. His defense at Wazzu is good. Better than UWs anyway.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Weird examples since Aranda fired his offensive coordinator after a disastrous offense led them to a 2-7 record in 2020. That was his first season. And you can bet your ass Venables will also be door-ass-outting a good number of his staff as well at the end of what will inevitably be a pitiful first year for him.theknowledge said:Is Brent Venables a shitty defensive coach? Oklahoma has arguably a worse defense than UW. Is it Venables? His players? They are probably not all 0* white walk-ons. Maybe his scheme is harder to figure out than Grinch's was? Who knows? Was Dave Aranda a shitty defensive coach? He took over a defense in 2020 that gave up 19.8ppg. His first defense gave up 29.2. This shit happens in year one. If UW's offense was always Petersens whether Smith or Bush was calling the plays (which I agree with) then Oklahomas or Baylors defenses are/were all Venables/Arandas. I give these defensive coaches until the first game of next year to figure this shit out. Not fixed? Then I'm out, not until then.
And lmao at WSU's defense being the new blueprint. Fucking Christ.
It's like you can't or won't understand that Aranda had a bad defense in his first year. I've written it twice. He's was the DC in year one and year two. They got better in year two. Why are you continuing to bring up the offense?
I brought up Dickert not as a blueprint (your words not mine) but as an example of a MW DC that didn't shit his pants at the P12 level. If you can't see the Cougs have a competent defense then your eyes aren't as good as mine. My god, you're being so obtuse.
Baylor took a step back this year anyway so FYFMFE -
You in January 2015:dtd said:
A retard got Oregon close to a natty. Thanks for playing, the dumbest motherfucker to ever poast here.haie said:
He's the closest you'll ever get to a national championship.dtd said:ntxduck said:
Never hire the career coordinatorRaceBannon said:Venables is a coordinator pretending to be a head coach
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I'll make this simple for you. Aranda, a defensive coach, fires his OC after one year. That's analogous to Deboner, and offensive coach, firing his DC after one year.theknowledge said:GreenRiverGatorz said:
Huh? I said Aranda fired his OC, not DC. Not that that makes a difference. Coaches fire bad assistants. You made a shitty analogy to try to prove a bad point. It happens.theknowledge said:
They are both examples of guys with bad defense in their first year of P5 coaching. What’s different is that both are defensive coaches. Aranda stayed his course on defense and it panned out in year two. KDB has worked with these defensive guys in the past. They’ll get another year. It took these same guys until year two to be defensively successful at Fresno. In the 80’s in total defense in 2019, in the 20’s their second year in 2021. And before you say, this ain’t the WAC, Dickert was DC at Wyoming before WSU. His defense at Wazzu is good. Better than UWs anyway.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Weird examples since Aranda fired his offensive coordinator after a disastrous offense led them to a 2-7 record in 2020. That was his first season. And you can bet your ass Venables will also be door-ass-outting a good number of his staff as well at the end of what will inevitably be a pitiful first year for him.theknowledge said:Is Brent Venables a shitty defensive coach? Oklahoma has arguably a worse defense than UW. Is it Venables? His players? They are probably not all 0* white walk-ons. Maybe his scheme is harder to figure out than Grinch's was? Who knows? Was Dave Aranda a shitty defensive coach? He took over a defense in 2020 that gave up 19.8ppg. His first defense gave up 29.2. This shit happens in year one. If UW's offense was always Petersens whether Smith or Bush was calling the plays (which I agree with) then Oklahomas or Baylors defenses are/were all Venables/Arandas. I give these defensive coaches until the first game of next year to figure this shit out. Not fixed? Then I'm out, not until then.
And lmao at WSU's defense being the new blueprint. Fucking Christ.
It's like you can't or won't understand that Aranda had a bad defense in his first year. I've written it twice. He's was the DC in year one and year two. They got better in year two. Why are you continuing to bring up the offense?
I brought up Dickert not as a blueprint (your words not mine) but as an example of a MW DC that didn't shit his pants at the P12 level. If you can't see the Cougs have a competent defense then your eyes aren't as good as mine. My god, you're being so obtuse.
Baylor took a step back this year anyway so FYFMFE
Yet you apparently have shit for brains and think Aranda is somehow an example of "just wait for the coordinator get his guys in!" because he kept his DC, which was clearly not the problem unit on the team. Likewise, nobody is suggesting Grubb gets canned after this year.
I can't believe I had to spell that out. Christ you're dumb. -
You seem to be an angry person. I feel bad for you. If you think 29ppg is "clearly not a problem" then you're mentally handicapped. 29 is worse or equal to Nick Holts first two UW defenses. That's bad defense. Once again you're stuffing words in my mouth and calling me out for it. I never mentioned DeBoers offense. You did. Let me spell this out for you, my thick skulled contrarian.GreenRiverGatorz said:
I'll make this simple for you. Aranda, a defensive coach, fires his OC after one year. That's analogous to Deboner, and offensive coach, firing his DC after one year.theknowledge said:GreenRiverGatorz said:
Huh? I said Aranda fired his OC, not DC. Not that that makes a difference. Coaches fire bad assistants. You made a shitty analogy to try to prove a bad point. It happens.theknowledge said:
They are both examples of guys with bad defense in their first year of P5 coaching. What’s different is that both are defensive coaches. Aranda stayed his course on defense and it panned out in year two. KDB has worked with these defensive guys in the past. They’ll get another year. It took these same guys until year two to be defensively successful at Fresno. In the 80’s in total defense in 2019, in the 20’s their second year in 2021. And before you say, this ain’t the WAC, Dickert was DC at Wyoming before WSU. His defense at Wazzu is good. Better than UWs anyway.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Weird examples since Aranda fired his offensive coordinator after a disastrous offense led them to a 2-7 record in 2020. That was his first season. And you can bet your ass Venables will also be door-ass-outting a good number of his staff as well at the end of what will inevitably be a pitiful first year for him.theknowledge said:Is Brent Venables a shitty defensive coach? Oklahoma has arguably a worse defense than UW. Is it Venables? His players? They are probably not all 0* white walk-ons. Maybe his scheme is harder to figure out than Grinch's was? Who knows? Was Dave Aranda a shitty defensive coach? He took over a defense in 2020 that gave up 19.8ppg. His first defense gave up 29.2. This shit happens in year one. If UW's offense was always Petersens whether Smith or Bush was calling the plays (which I agree with) then Oklahomas or Baylors defenses are/were all Venables/Arandas. I give these defensive coaches until the first game of next year to figure this shit out. Not fixed? Then I'm out, not until then.
And lmao at WSU's defense being the new blueprint. Fucking Christ.
It's like you can't or won't understand that Aranda had a bad defense in his first year. I've written it twice. He's was the DC in year one and year two. They got better in year two. Why are you continuing to bring up the offense?
I brought up Dickert not as a blueprint (your words not mine) but as an example of a MW DC that didn't shit his pants at the P12 level. If you can't see the Cougs have a competent defense then your eyes aren't as good as mine. My god, you're being so obtuse.
Baylor took a step back this year anyway so FYFMFE
Yet you apparently have shit for brains and think Aranda is somehow an example of "just wait for the coordinator get his guys in!" because he kept his DC, which was clearly not the problem unit on the team. Likewise, nobody is suggesting Grubb gets canned after this year.
I can't believe I had to spell that out. Christ you're dumb.
Is DeBoer a first time P5 HC? Y or N
Was Aranda a first time P5 head coach in 2020? Y or N
Is that a similarity? Y or N
Is DeBoers defense at UW bad? Y or N
Was Arandas defense bad at Baylor year 1? Y or N
Is that a similarity? Y or N
Did Aranda fire his defensive staff? Y or N
Was Arandas defense better in 2021? Y or N
No one knows for sure but I feel that, like Aranda, DeBoer will keep his defensive staff for another year. Aranda had faith in himself and his guys defensively. My feeling is that KDB probably has that same faith in his guys. Under your reasoning Aranda should have fired EVERYONEgif because everything was bad. He didn't.
Once again, I'm not talking about offense. Im talking about defense. Take out that they coached on different sides of the ball as coordinators and please concentrate on them strictly as first time P5 HC's with bad defenses. You're making the comparison harder than it has to be.
I'm pretty sure that this discussion, not my blatant homosexuality, has given me full blown AIDS, so thanks for that.
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Not a problem and not the problem are two different things. Learn to read then learn the difference. And then fuck off and die.theknowledge said:
You seem to be an angry person. I feel bad for you. If you think 29ppg is "clearly not a problem" then you're mentally handicapped. 29 is worse or equal to Nick Holts first two UW defenses. That's bad defense. Once again you're stuffing words in my mouth and calling me out for it. I never mentioned DeBoers offense. You did. Let me spell this out for you, my thick skulled contrarian.GreenRiverGatorz said:
I'll make this simple for you. Aranda, a defensive coach, fires his OC after one year. That's analogous to Deboner, and offensive coach, firing his DC after one year.theknowledge said:GreenRiverGatorz said:
Huh? I said Aranda fired his OC, not DC. Not that that makes a difference. Coaches fire bad assistants. You made a shitty analogy to try to prove a bad point. It happens.theknowledge said:
They are both examples of guys with bad defense in their first year of P5 coaching. What’s different is that both are defensive coaches. Aranda stayed his course on defense and it panned out in year two. KDB has worked with these defensive guys in the past. They’ll get another year. It took these same guys until year two to be defensively successful at Fresno. In the 80’s in total defense in 2019, in the 20’s their second year in 2021. And before you say, this ain’t the WAC, Dickert was DC at Wyoming before WSU. His defense at Wazzu is good. Better than UWs anyway.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Weird examples since Aranda fired his offensive coordinator after a disastrous offense led them to a 2-7 record in 2020. That was his first season. And you can bet your ass Venables will also be door-ass-outting a good number of his staff as well at the end of what will inevitably be a pitiful first year for him.theknowledge said:Is Brent Venables a shitty defensive coach? Oklahoma has arguably a worse defense than UW. Is it Venables? His players? They are probably not all 0* white walk-ons. Maybe his scheme is harder to figure out than Grinch's was? Who knows? Was Dave Aranda a shitty defensive coach? He took over a defense in 2020 that gave up 19.8ppg. His first defense gave up 29.2. This shit happens in year one. If UW's offense was always Petersens whether Smith or Bush was calling the plays (which I agree with) then Oklahomas or Baylors defenses are/were all Venables/Arandas. I give these defensive coaches until the first game of next year to figure this shit out. Not fixed? Then I'm out, not until then.
And lmao at WSU's defense being the new blueprint. Fucking Christ.
It's like you can't or won't understand that Aranda had a bad defense in his first year. I've written it twice. He's was the DC in year one and year two. They got better in year two. Why are you continuing to bring up the offense?
I brought up Dickert not as a blueprint (your words not mine) but as an example of a MW DC that didn't shit his pants at the P12 level. If you can't see the Cougs have a competent defense then your eyes aren't as good as mine. My god, you're being so obtuse.
Baylor took a step back this year anyway so FYFMFE
Yet you apparently have shit for brains and think Aranda is somehow an example of "just wait for the coordinator get his guys in!" because he kept his DC, which was clearly not the problem unit on the team. Likewise, nobody is suggesting Grubb gets canned after this year.
I can't believe I had to spell that out. Christ you're dumb.
Is DeBoer a first time P5 HC? Y or N
Was Aranda a first time P5 head coach in 2020? Y or N
Is that a similarity? Y or N
Is DeBoers defense at UW bad? Y or N
Was Arandas defense bad at Baylor year 1? Y or N
Is that a similarity? Y or N
Did Aranda fire his defensive staff? Y or N
Was Arandas defense better in 2021? Y or N
No one knows for sure but I feel that, like Aranda, DeBoer will keep his defensive staff for another year. Aranda had faith in himself and his guys defensively. My feeling is that KDB probably has that same faith in his guys. Under your reasoning Aranda should have fired EVERYONEgif because everything was bad. He didn't.
Once again, I'm not talking about offense. Im talking about defense. Take out that they coached on different sides of the ball as coordinators and please concentrate on them strictly as first time P5 HC's with bad defenses. You're making the comparison harder than it has to be.
I'm pretty sure that this discussion, not my blatant homosexuality, has given me full blown AIDS, so thanks for that. -
LOL. You’re so angry. I hear walks for perspective are helpful in these situations. You need a hug?GreenRiverGatorz said:
Not a problem and not the problem are two different things. Learn to read then learn the difference. And then fuck off and die.theknowledge said:
You seem to be an angry person. I feel bad for you. If you think 29ppg is "clearly not a problem" then you're mentally handicapped. 29 is worse or equal to Nick Holts first two UW defenses. That's bad defense. Once again you're stuffing words in my mouth and calling me out for it. I never mentioned DeBoers offense. You did. Let me spell this out for you, my thick skulled contrarian.GreenRiverGatorz said:
I'll make this simple for you. Aranda, a defensive coach, fires his OC after one year. That's analogous to Deboner, and offensive coach, firing his DC after one year.theknowledge said:GreenRiverGatorz said:
Huh? I said Aranda fired his OC, not DC. Not that that makes a difference. Coaches fire bad assistants. You made a shitty analogy to try to prove a bad point. It happens.theknowledge said:
They are both examples of guys with bad defense in their first year of P5 coaching. What’s different is that both are defensive coaches. Aranda stayed his course on defense and it panned out in year two. KDB has worked with these defensive guys in the past. They’ll get another year. It took these same guys until year two to be defensively successful at Fresno. In the 80’s in total defense in 2019, in the 20’s their second year in 2021. And before you say, this ain’t the WAC, Dickert was DC at Wyoming before WSU. His defense at Wazzu is good. Better than UWs anyway.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Weird examples since Aranda fired his offensive coordinator after a disastrous offense led them to a 2-7 record in 2020. That was his first season. And you can bet your ass Venables will also be door-ass-outting a good number of his staff as well at the end of what will inevitably be a pitiful first year for him.theknowledge said:Is Brent Venables a shitty defensive coach? Oklahoma has arguably a worse defense than UW. Is it Venables? His players? They are probably not all 0* white walk-ons. Maybe his scheme is harder to figure out than Grinch's was? Who knows? Was Dave Aranda a shitty defensive coach? He took over a defense in 2020 that gave up 19.8ppg. His first defense gave up 29.2. This shit happens in year one. If UW's offense was always Petersens whether Smith or Bush was calling the plays (which I agree with) then Oklahomas or Baylors defenses are/were all Venables/Arandas. I give these defensive coaches until the first game of next year to figure this shit out. Not fixed? Then I'm out, not until then.
And lmao at WSU's defense being the new blueprint. Fucking Christ.
It's like you can't or won't understand that Aranda had a bad defense in his first year. I've written it twice. He's was the DC in year one and year two. They got better in year two. Why are you continuing to bring up the offense?
I brought up Dickert not as a blueprint (your words not mine) but as an example of a MW DC that didn't shit his pants at the P12 level. If you can't see the Cougs have a competent defense then your eyes aren't as good as mine. My god, you're being so obtuse.
Baylor took a step back this year anyway so FYFMFE
Yet you apparently have shit for brains and think Aranda is somehow an example of "just wait for the coordinator get his guys in!" because he kept his DC, which was clearly not the problem unit on the team. Likewise, nobody is suggesting Grubb gets canned after this year.
I can't believe I had to spell that out. Christ you're dumb.
Is DeBoer a first time P5 HC? Y or N
Was Aranda a first time P5 head coach in 2020? Y or N
Is that a similarity? Y or N
Is DeBoers defense at UW bad? Y or N
Was Arandas defense bad at Baylor year 1? Y or N
Is that a similarity? Y or N
Did Aranda fire his defensive staff? Y or N
Was Arandas defense better in 2021? Y or N
No one knows for sure but I feel that, like Aranda, DeBoer will keep his defensive staff for another year. Aranda had faith in himself and his guys defensively. My feeling is that KDB probably has that same faith in his guys. Under your reasoning Aranda should have fired EVERYONEgif because everything was bad. He didn't.
Once again, I'm not talking about offense. Im talking about defense. Take out that they coached on different sides of the ball as coordinators and please concentrate on them strictly as first time P5 HC's with bad defenses. You're making the comparison harder than it has to be.
I'm pretty sure that this discussion, not my blatant homosexuality, has given me full blown AIDS, so thanks for that. -
Sounds like you hate this board after a two game losing streaktheknowledge said:
LOL. You’re so angry. I hear walks for perspective are helpful in these situations. You need a hug?GreenRiverGatorz said:
Not a problem and not the problem are two different things. Learn to read then learn the difference. And then fuck off and die.theknowledge said:
You seem to be an angry person. I feel bad for you. If you think 29ppg is "clearly not a problem" then you're mentally handicapped. 29 is worse or equal to Nick Holts first two UW defenses. That's bad defense. Once again you're stuffing words in my mouth and calling me out for it. I never mentioned DeBoers offense. You did. Let me spell this out for you, my thick skulled contrarian.GreenRiverGatorz said:
I'll make this simple for you. Aranda, a defensive coach, fires his OC after one year. That's analogous to Deboner, and offensive coach, firing his DC after one year.theknowledge said:GreenRiverGatorz said:
Huh? I said Aranda fired his OC, not DC. Not that that makes a difference. Coaches fire bad assistants. You made a shitty analogy to try to prove a bad point. It happens.theknowledge said:
They are both examples of guys with bad defense in their first year of P5 coaching. What’s different is that both are defensive coaches. Aranda stayed his course on defense and it panned out in year two. KDB has worked with these defensive guys in the past. They’ll get another year. It took these same guys until year two to be defensively successful at Fresno. In the 80’s in total defense in 2019, in the 20’s their second year in 2021. And before you say, this ain’t the WAC, Dickert was DC at Wyoming before WSU. His defense at Wazzu is good. Better than UWs anyway.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Weird examples since Aranda fired his offensive coordinator after a disastrous offense led them to a 2-7 record in 2020. That was his first season. And you can bet your ass Venables will also be door-ass-outting a good number of his staff as well at the end of what will inevitably be a pitiful first year for him.theknowledge said:Is Brent Venables a shitty defensive coach? Oklahoma has arguably a worse defense than UW. Is it Venables? His players? They are probably not all 0* white walk-ons. Maybe his scheme is harder to figure out than Grinch's was? Who knows? Was Dave Aranda a shitty defensive coach? He took over a defense in 2020 that gave up 19.8ppg. His first defense gave up 29.2. This shit happens in year one. If UW's offense was always Petersens whether Smith or Bush was calling the plays (which I agree with) then Oklahomas or Baylors defenses are/were all Venables/Arandas. I give these defensive coaches until the first game of next year to figure this shit out. Not fixed? Then I'm out, not until then.
And lmao at WSU's defense being the new blueprint. Fucking Christ.
It's like you can't or won't understand that Aranda had a bad defense in his first year. I've written it twice. He's was the DC in year one and year two. They got better in year two. Why are you continuing to bring up the offense?
I brought up Dickert not as a blueprint (your words not mine) but as an example of a MW DC that didn't shit his pants at the P12 level. If you can't see the Cougs have a competent defense then your eyes aren't as good as mine. My god, you're being so obtuse.
Baylor took a step back this year anyway so FYFMFE
Yet you apparently have shit for brains and think Aranda is somehow an example of "just wait for the coordinator get his guys in!" because he kept his DC, which was clearly not the problem unit on the team. Likewise, nobody is suggesting Grubb gets canned after this year.
I can't believe I had to spell that out. Christ you're dumb.
Is DeBoer a first time P5 HC? Y or N
Was Aranda a first time P5 head coach in 2020? Y or N
Is that a similarity? Y or N
Is DeBoers defense at UW bad? Y or N
Was Arandas defense bad at Baylor year 1? Y or N
Is that a similarity? Y or N
Did Aranda fire his defensive staff? Y or N
Was Arandas defense better in 2021? Y or N
No one knows for sure but I feel that, like Aranda, DeBoer will keep his defensive staff for another year. Aranda had faith in himself and his guys defensively. My feeling is that KDB probably has that same faith in his guys. Under your reasoning Aranda should have fired EVERYONEgif because everything was bad. He didn't.
Once again, I'm not talking about offense. Im talking about defense. Take out that they coached on different sides of the ball as coordinators and please concentrate on them strictly as first time P5 HC's with bad defenses. You're making the comparison harder than it has to be.
I'm pretty sure that this discussion, not my blatant homosexuality, has given me full blown AIDS, so thanks for that. -
Two fairly reasonable poasters going kumite is the shit I'm hear four.
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Every coach needs time to get his guyz in there. The question is, how much time should a coach need to get his guyz in there before the "he needs time to get his guyz in there" becomes the excuse?
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This same time next year for the defensive coaches. If it looks the same, demotions or firings are in order. Six games in year one? Not so much.Baseman said:Every coach needs time to get his guyz in there. The question is, how much time should a coach need to get his guyz in there before the "he needs time to get his guyz in there" becomes the excuse?
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I know that Tennessee kicker made the game winner, but that was the ugliest, low-confidence kick I've ever seen go through the uprights.
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Maybe gymnastics is moar you’re speed.BleachedAnusDawg said:I know that Tennessee kicker made the game winner, but that was the ugliest, low-confidence kick I've ever seen go through the uprights.
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#34 botched the kick in incredibly stupid fashion and Nick strokes outBaseman said:
Sometimes the guyz you have make you want new guyz
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