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Why @Swaye loves rapid firing, high capacity rifles

YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,898
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If Custer's men had 1873 Winchesters, instead of 1873 Springfield (single shot) Trapdoors, the Swayes would have lost.


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    GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,481
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    Or if they'd brought the Gatling guns.
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    YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,898
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    Or if they'd brought the Gatling guns.

    They were a pain in the ass to haul around in the rugged west.
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    YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,898
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    Or if they'd brought the Gatling guns.

    They were a pain in the ass to haul around in the rugged west.
    Pain in the ass >>>> Dead in the grass
    True that. Moral of the story here, of course, is that for the most part, the citizenry of the 1870's - 1890's had mo' better rifles (Winchester lever guns) than the US Army (Single shot breech loaders).
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    SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,062
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    Or if they'd brought the Gatling guns.

    They were a pain in the ass to haul around in the rugged west.
    Pain in the ass >>>> Dead in the grass
    True that. Moral of the story here, of course, is that for the most part, the citizenry of the 1870's - 1890's had mo' better rifles (Winchester lever guns) than the US Army (Single shot breech loaders).
    There is a powerful lesson in what you just typed.
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    SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,062
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    If Custer's men had 1873 Winchesters, instead of 1873 Springfield (single shot) Trapdoors, the Swayes would have lost.


    Obligatory "Racist"
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    YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,898
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    Swaye said:

    Or if they'd brought the Gatling guns.

    They were a pain in the ass to haul around in the rugged west.
    Pain in the ass >>>> Dead in the grass
    True that. Moral of the story here, of course, is that for the most part, the citizenry of the 1870's - 1890's had mo' better rifles (Winchester lever guns) than the US Army (Single shot breech loaders).
    There is a powerful lesson in what you just typed.
    I've always found this period of our nation's firearms history very chinteresting. Winchesters were truly the ARs of the day and yet the Army was stuck on the idea of still using single shot trapdoors well into the early 1890's. Granted the .45-70 was a more powerful round than most of the ones available in a Winchester (1886 Winchester being an exception here).
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    SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,062
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    Swaye said:

    Or if they'd brought the Gatling guns.

    They were a pain in the ass to haul around in the rugged west.
    Pain in the ass >>>> Dead in the grass
    True that. Moral of the story here, of course, is that for the most part, the citizenry of the 1870's - 1890's had mo' better rifles (Winchester lever guns) than the US Army (Single shot breech loaders).
    There is a powerful lesson in what you just typed.
    I've always found this period of our nation's firearms history very chinteresting. Winchesters were truly the ARs of the day and yet the Army was stuck on the idea of still using single shot trapdoors well into the early 1890's. Granted the .45-70 was a more powerful round than most of the ones available in a Winchester (1886 Winchester being an exception here).
    It was nice when the populace, whether white or red, could actually defend themselves against the government. Today, not so much.
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    YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,898
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    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    Or if they'd brought the Gatling guns.

    They were a pain in the ass to haul around in the rugged west.
    Pain in the ass >>>> Dead in the grass
    True that. Moral of the story here, of course, is that for the most part, the citizenry of the 1870's - 1890's had mo' better rifles (Winchester lever guns) than the US Army (Single shot breech loaders).
    There is a powerful lesson in what you just typed.
    I've always found this period of our nation's firearms history very chinteresting. Winchesters were truly the ARs of the day and yet the Army was stuck on the idea of still using single shot trapdoors well into the early 1890's. Granted the .45-70 was a more powerful round than most of the ones available in a Winchester (1886 Winchester being an exception here).
    It was nice when the populace, whether white or red, could actually defend themselves against the government. Today, not so much.
    The reds, blicks, and messicans could definitely used mor and better guns to defend themselves from tyranny of whitey's guvmint and Manifest Destiny.
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    SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,062
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    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    Or if they'd brought the Gatling guns.

    They were a pain in the ass to haul around in the rugged west.
    Pain in the ass >>>> Dead in the grass
    True that. Moral of the story here, of course, is that for the most part, the citizenry of the 1870's - 1890's had mo' better rifles (Winchester lever guns) than the US Army (Single shot breech loaders).
    There is a powerful lesson in what you just typed.
    I've always found this period of our nation's firearms history very chinteresting. Winchesters were truly the ARs of the day and yet the Army was stuck on the idea of still using single shot trapdoors well into the early 1890's. Granted the .45-70 was a more powerful round than most of the ones available in a Winchester (1886 Winchester being an exception here).
    It was nice when the populace, whether white or red, could actually defend themselves against the government. Today, not so much.
    The reds, blicks, and messicans could definitely used mor and better guns to defend themselves from tyranny of whitey's guvmint and Manifest Destiny.
    Good to see another one come around to @Dennis_DeYoung and my point of view that everything is better without white people.
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    YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,898
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    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    Or if they'd brought the Gatling guns.

    They were a pain in the ass to haul around in the rugged west.
    Pain in the ass >>>> Dead in the grass
    True that. Moral of the story here, of course, is that for the most part, the citizenry of the 1870's - 1890's had mo' better rifles (Winchester lever guns) than the US Army (Single shot breech loaders).
    There is a powerful lesson in what you just typed.
    I've always found this period of our nation's firearms history very chinteresting. Winchesters were truly the ARs of the day and yet the Army was stuck on the idea of still using single shot trapdoors well into the early 1890's. Granted the .45-70 was a more powerful round than most of the ones available in a Winchester (1886 Winchester being an exception here).
    It was nice when the populace, whether white or red, could actually defend themselves against the government. Today, not so much.
    The reds, blicks, and messicans could definitely used mor and better guns to defend themselves from tyranny of whitey's guvmint and Manifest Destiny.
    Good to see another one come around to @Dennis_DeYoung and my point of view that everything is better without white people.
    Yes and no. Either way it's chinteresting.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,733
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    Or if they'd brought the Gatling guns.

    They were a pain in the ass to haul around in the rugged west.
    Pain in the ass >>>> Dead in the grass
    True that. Moral of the story here, of course, is that for the most part, the citizenry of the 1870's - 1890's had mo' better rifles (Winchester lever guns) than the US Army (Single shot breech loaders).
    Those were cowboy Kalashnikovs! No one bitched about'em.
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    YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,898
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    Sledog said:

    Or if they'd brought the Gatling guns.

    They were a pain in the ass to haul around in the rugged west.
    Pain in the ass >>>> Dead in the grass
    True that. Moral of the story here, of course, is that for the most part, the citizenry of the 1870's - 1890's had mo' better rifles (Winchester lever guns) than the US Army (Single shot breech loaders).
    Those were cowboy Kalashnikovs! No one bitched about'em.
    I have a bit of a cowboy action shooting fetish and love lever guns. It's my adult dream to go to Hickok 45's house and blast off an 1895 Marlin in .45-70.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,733
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    Sledog said:

    Or if they'd brought the Gatling guns.

    They were a pain in the ass to haul around in the rugged west.
    Pain in the ass >>>> Dead in the grass
    True that. Moral of the story here, of course, is that for the most part, the citizenry of the 1870's - 1890's had mo' better rifles (Winchester lever guns) than the US Army (Single shot breech loaders).
    Those were cowboy Kalashnikovs! No one bitched about'em.
    I have a bit of a cowboy action shooting fetish and love lever guns. It's my adult dream to go to Hickok 45's house and blast off an 1895 Marlin in .45-70.
    Easy gun to get go grab one. I run an Winchester 1886 Extra Lite that I had re=chambered to 45-90. Loaded it hot and has a bit of recoil! My cowboy fetish is for a Pedersoli Lightening Carbine in 45 Colt. Beautiful.
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