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  • TequillaTequilla Posts: 13,914
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    Anderson, filler salary and draft picks works for Lebron. If he goes to Houston that’s the deal.

    So a terrible contract that puts the Cavs in a potentially terrible luxury tax situation, filler contracts worth nothing, and late 1st round draft picks of little value ... I’m sure Dan Gilbert is going to rush to the phones for that
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Posts: 7,059
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    Tequilla said:

    Anderson, filler salary and draft picks works for Lebron. If he goes to Houston that’s the deal.

    So a terrible contract that puts the Cavs in a potentially terrible luxury tax situation, filler contracts worth nothing, and late 1st round draft picks of little value ... I’m sure Dan Gilbert is going to rush to the phones for that
    I’ve got two possible reasons why. One, that might have been the deal when Lebron came back. Lebron is pretty smart and getting Gilbert to agree that if he wants to be traded somewhere Gilbert has to do it is a real possibility.

    And two, Lebron is leaving Cleveland a hero. There will be no jersey burning. He can make this departure about Gilbert if he wants to and this time the fans will side with him. If you lose Lebron, have to rebuild and your fans are pissed at you you’re in a really bad spot. Or you can come out and say Lebron will always be a Cav, you’re going to build a statue of him outside the arena but he’s ready to move on to a different point in his career and you’re happy to help. Given how ugly things got last time that is a very good look.

    Most importantly there’s no opportunity cost in this deal. The Cavs without Lebron stink, they’re over the cap regardless, Love will get traded, they can stretch JR to get under the luxury tax. They get late first round picks and really good pr for Ryan Anderson’s contract. No brainer deal.
    dncTequillabackthepack
  • dncdnc Posts: 34,884
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    Tequilla said:

    Anderson, filler salary and draft picks works for Lebron. If he goes to Houston that’s the deal.

    So a terrible contract that puts the Cavs in a potentially terrible luxury tax situation, filler contracts worth nothing, and late 1st round draft picks of little value ... I’m sure Dan Gilbert is going to rush to the phones for that
    I’ve got two possible reasons why. One, that might have been the deal when Lebron came back. Lebron is pretty smart and getting Gilbert to agree that if he wants to be traded somewhere Gilbert has to do it is a real possibility.

    And two, Lebron is leaving Cleveland a hero. There will be no jersey burning. He can make this departure about Gilbert if he wants to and this time the fans will side with him. If you lose Lebron, have to rebuild and your fans are pissed at you you’re in a really bad spot. Or you can come out and say Lebron will always be a Cav, you’re going to build a statue of him outside the arena but he’s ready to move on to a different point in his career and you’re happy to help. Given how ugly things got last time that is a very good look.

    Most importantly there’s no opportunity cost in this deal. The Cavs without Lebron stink, they’re over the cap regardless, Love will get traded, they can stretch JR to get under the luxury tax. They get late first round picks and really good pr for Ryan Anderson’s contract. No brainer deal.
    It’s s good argument, the only flaw is you’re assuming Dan Gilbert will operate like a rational human being.
    TequillaFreeChavez
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Posts: 7,059
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    dnc said:

    Tequilla said:

    Anderson, filler salary and draft picks works for Lebron. If he goes to Houston that’s the deal.

    So a terrible contract that puts the Cavs in a potentially terrible luxury tax situation, filler contracts worth nothing, and late 1st round draft picks of little value ... I’m sure Dan Gilbert is going to rush to the phones for that
    I’ve got two possible reasons why. One, that might have been the deal when Lebron came back. Lebron is pretty smart and getting Gilbert to agree that if he wants to be traded somewhere Gilbert has to do it is a real possibility.

    And two, Lebron is leaving Cleveland a hero. There will be no jersey burning. He can make this departure about Gilbert if he wants to and this time the fans will side with him. If you lose Lebron, have to rebuild and your fans are pissed at you you’re in a really bad spot. Or you can come out and say Lebron will always be a Cav, you’re going to build a statue of him outside the arena but he’s ready to move on to a different point in his career and you’re happy to help. Given how ugly things got last time that is a very good look.

    Most importantly there’s no opportunity cost in this deal. The Cavs without Lebron stink, they’re over the cap regardless, Love will get traded, they can stretch JR to get under the luxury tax. They get late first round picks and really good pr for Ryan Anderson’s contract. No brainer deal.
    It’s s good argument, the only flaw is you’re assuming Dan Gilbert will operate like a rational human being.
    Fair.
  • CuntWaffleCuntWaffle Posts: 15,355
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    Lebron is amazing. But, his whole cast shtick after game 4 was the faggiest thing i've ever seen.

    This is the trivial shit that pisses me off about Lebron. I like his play much much more than I dislike this stuff now but it's like fuck man, just put it on later if it is actually busted.
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Posts: 30,642
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    Imagine a guy doted on most of his life that started out pretty miserable only to become the Chosen One at 16 acting like an entitled drama queen

    I agree most of the distaste about Lebron is self inflicted because he seems really socially awkward in some respect and has for most of his career.

    If you don't want to like him you can find a reason

    MJ was criticized for selling shoes to Republicans. Lebron is not afraid to take on Trump #Courage
    allpurpleallgolddncbackthepack
  • FreeChavezFreeChavez Posts: 3,045
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    Tequilla said:

    Anderson, filler salary and draft picks works for Lebron. If he goes to Houston that’s the deal.

    So a terrible contract that puts the Cavs in a potentially terrible luxury tax situation, filler contracts worth nothing, and late 1st round draft picks of little value ... I’m sure Dan Gilbert is going to rush to the phones for that
    Most importantly there’s no opportunity cost in this deal. The Cavs without Lebron stink, they’re over the cap regardless, Love will get traded, they can stretch JR to get under the luxury tax. They get late first round picks and really good pr for Ryan Anderson’s contract. No brainer deal.
    I just don't agree that the Cavs would have any reason to do anything for lebron at this point unless it helps them. Taking on a tank of a salary for 2 years while jettisoning your franchise player for a pick in the late first round is nuts. The % of 1st round picks outside the lottery that become anything other than role players is astronomical.

    I could see gilbert/bron going to a team and eating a salary for a year(ie an irving), where you can keep the guy and hope he signs or you lose the salary obligation. But to take on anderson in this salary cap environment and get nothing in return is illogical. Just let bron walk at that point.

    One thing gilbert knows is that he owns an asset that is vastly more valuable than when he bought it(even without James). He now has a title, and paid mucho money to ensure bron could make these runs. There is zero reason for him to take on any financial obligation unless it helps the team going forward.
    Tequilla
  • TequillaTequilla Posts: 13,914
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    If anything, Gilbert is going to cash out at some point. I’ve heard rumors in the past of him wanting to own the Pistons instead of Cavs.
  • FreeChavezFreeChavez Posts: 3,045
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    Tequilla said:

    If anything, Gilbert is going to cash out at some point. I’ve heard rumors in the past of him wanting to own the Pistons instead of Cavs.

    Hard to find a way to get worse than cleveland, but if any owner can do it, gilbert can
    dncTequilla
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