The reason Joey Thomas hates UW

HuskyClaws

http://seattlemedium.com/coach-joey-thomas-inspires-youth-totally-optimize-potential/

During his freshmen year at the University of Washington, Thomas thought about quitting football, the game that he has loved since he was a little kid playing for CAYA. But a conversation with his best friend, former UW football player Paul Arnold, got Thomas to refocus and pursue his life’s dream at Montana State University.

“It was a frustrating time for him. He loved football so much and he put everything he had in it,” said Arnold, who also played for UW at the time. “I don’t think it was an ability issue, I think he just didn’t fit into what they were looking for. That probably was the lowest point in his sports career.

According to Thomas, Arnold encouraged him not to “let these folks break your spirit,” and to go somewhere else if he had to but to keep grinding. He went on to play for Montana State, but the impact on his life is something that helps motivate him to encourage his players to keep working and make a way to live out their dreams.

“They broke me,” said Thomas of his time with the UW football program. “They weren’t feeling me and I got no love.”

“To be that broken to feel like I had to quit the game that I loved… that was a huge low point for me,”

pat_hm

Fuck Joey Thomas

Meek

HuskyClaws said:

http://seattlemedium.com/coach-joey-thomas-inspires-youth-totally-optimize-potential/

During his freshmen year at the University of Washington, Thomas thought about quitting football, the game that he has loved since he was a little kid playing for CAYA. But a conversation with his best friend, former UW football player Paul Arnold, got Thomas to refocus and pursue his life’s dream at Montana State University.

“It was a frustrating time for him. He loved football so much and he put everything he had in it,” said Arnold, who also played for UW at the time. “I don’t think it was an ability issue, I think he just didn’t fit into what they were looking for. That probably was the lowest point in his sports career.

According to Thomas, Arnold encouraged him not to “let these folks break your spirit,” and to go somewhere else if he had to but to keep grinding. He went on to play for Montana State, but the impact on his life is something that helps motivate him to encourage his players to keep working and make a way to live out their dreams.

“They broke me,” said Thomas of his time with the UW football program. “They weren’t feeling me and I got no love.”

“To be that broken to feel like I had to quit the game that I loved… that was a huge low point for me,”

there are tens of thousands of players saying this about hundreds of schools. it's unfortunate if this is still a personal issue. even my grandfather, who got shot down in his P51-A Mustang and hauled off to Stalag Luft III in WWII where he had to dig fucking tunnels to get out eventually stopped being pissed at Germans.

dnc

But it’s all Petes fault!!

bananasnblondes

Sounds like he was a weak-minded quitter who blamed others for his inability to make it. Definitely somebody our coaches should be groveling at the feet of for a slightly better shot at one recruit.

CuntWaffle

Sounds like a scorned 17 year old girl. What a bitch.

Dennis_DeYoung

Rick Neuheisel was a complete fuck-up and this is why you don't treat anyone poorly.

I don't like Joey Thomas but I was relatively close to the program at that time and if you guys think Joey Thomas got a fair shake you are fucking stupid.

Joey got fucked over and they tried to run him because they thought they could get better people.

Rick was Sark, the prequel. And if Sark had run a kid you'd be much more sympathetic to the kid. But you guys are FS and can't figure out that it's generally not a good policy to fuck over local kids in your own program after you've offered them scholarships. Could come back to haunt you.

And, in this case, given that he's Sav'ell Smalls' coach, it has.

NorwegianHusky

bananasnblondes said:

Sounds like he was a weak-minded quitter who blamed others for his inability to make it. Definitely somebody our coaches should be groveling at the feet of for a slightly better shot at one recruit.

No one ever said this. You guys are being defeatist by saying "Fuck Joey Thomas let's not even try to mend the relationship and just give up on recruiting his players". Of course Joey Thomas is a petty asshole. Unfortunately that petty asshole sits on some good croots that we want and we should at least try to get on his good side. No one said that we should be blowing him for a chance at one player. But if you don't think it's important to build good relationships with coaches at major local high schools I'd like to hear your reasoning for it...

GrundleStiltzkin

HE should have gone to UCLA

dnc

Dennis_DeYoung said:

Rick Neuheisel was a complete fuck-up and this is why you don't treat anyone poorly.

I don't like Joey Thomas but I was relatively close to the program at that time and if you guys think Joey Thomas got a fair shake you are fucking stupid.

Joey got fucked over and they tried to run him because they thought they could get better people.

Rick was Sark, the prequel. And if Sark had run a kid you'd be much more sympathetic to the kid. But you guys are FS and can't figure out that it's generally not a good policy to fuck over local kids in your own program after you've offered them scholarships. Could come back to haunt you.

And, in this case, given that he's Sav'ell Smalls' coach, it has.

Yeah, nobody but you is smart enough to figure that out.

Dennis_DeYoung

You guys are so fucking stupid.

Just look at Bryce Sterk vs. Joey Thomas. Same shit, different coaches.

We got desperate and offered a local guy we thought probably didn't have enough talent and took him. In Thomas' case it was probably more nefarious because we were using him to help with Paul Arnold.

With Thomas, as soon as he got here and recruiting picked up we SHIT ALL OVER HIM. They told him he sucked. They told him they wanted him to quit. They told him he wasn't good enough. That he was a disgrace, etc. They didn't try to find another place for him, they just completely tried to make him quit. They used to not acknowledge him at practice, they wouldn't let him take reps and were like 'we don't let scrubs get reps' - if you don't like it, you know what to do.

With Sterk, they gave him a shot and when it became clear he wasn't going to play they went to him and asked if he wanted to play (because it didn't look like he was going to here). If he did, they would try to find him a fit at a school where he would play and be valued.

I wonder which approach works better in the long term... hmmm...

And you shit bags think Joey Thomas is just a bitter guy who quit. You are all fucking morons if you think Joey doesn't have a right to be pissed. And you are all fucking morons if you think we should've treated Sterk that way.

EDIT - look I think Joey's bullshit is fucking tired, but only fucking morons just take one opinion on someone and let that override all their critical thinking about that person. Fucking hell. I feel like I'm talking to fucking 7 year olds 'NOT EVERYONE IS ALL GOOD OR BAD' - but what the fuck do I expect in a culture where all our most popular movies are fucking superhero fagfests that people take seriously?

FUCK OUR SOCIETY.

FireCohen

did we tell him to fuck off yet?

dnc

Dennis_DeYoung said:

You guys are so fucking stupid.

Just look at Bryce Sterk vs. Joey Thomas. Same shit, different coaches.

We got desperate and offered a local guy we thought probably didn't have enough talent and took him. In Thomas' case it was probably more nefarious because we were using him to help with Paul Arnold.

With Thomas, as soon as he got here and recruiting picked up we SHIT ALL OVER HIM. They told him he sucked. They told him they wanted him to quit. They told him he wasn't good enough. That he was a disgrace, etc. They didn't try to find another place for him, they just completely tried to make him quit.

With Sterk, they gave him a shot and when it became clear he wasn't going to play they went to him and asked if he wanted to play (because it didn't look like he was going to here). If he did, they would try to find him a fit at a school where he would play and be valued.

I wonder which approach works better in the long term... hmmm...

And you shit bags think Joey Thomas is just a bitter guy who quit. You are all fucking morons if you think Joey doesn't have a right to be pissed. And you are all fucking morons if you think we should've treated Sterk that way.

I’m having a hard time seeing the problem with how they treated Sterk. I assume you just said the opposite of what you meant.

Nobody is saying Thomas got a fair shake. He can be a whiny bitch and RN can be a fucking douche who screwed him over. Abundance is an option here.

FireCohen

Dennis_DeYoung said:

You guys are so fucking stupid.

Just look at Bryce Sterk vs. Joey Thomas. Same shit, different coaches.

We got desperate and offered a local guy we thought probably didn't have enough talent and took him. In Thomas' case it was probably more nefarious because we were using him to help with Paul Arnold.

With Thomas, as soon as he got here and recruiting picked up we SHIT ALL OVER HIM. They told him he sucked. They told him they wanted him to quit. They told him he wasn't good enough. That he was a disgrace, etc. They didn't try to find another place for him, they just completely tried to make him quit. They used to not acknowledge him at practice, they wouldn't let him take reps and were like 'we don't let scrubs get reps' - if you don't like it, you know what to do.

With Sterk, they gave him a shot and when it became clear he wasn't going to play they went to him and asked if he wanted to play (because it didn't look like he was going to here). If he did, they would try to find him a fit at a school where he would play and be valued.

I wonder which approach works better in the long term... hmmm...

And you shit bags think Joey Thomas is just a bitter guy who quit. You are all fucking morons if you think Joey doesn't have a right to be pissed. And you are all fucking morons if you think we should've treated Sterk that way.

EDIT - look I think Joey's bullshit is fucking tired, but only fucking morons just take one opinion on someone and let that override all their critical thinking about that person. Fucking hell. I feel like I'm talking to fucking 7 year olds 'NOT EVERYONE IS ALL GOOD OR BAD' - but what the fuck do I expect in a culture where all our most popular movies are fucking superhero fagfests that people take seriously?

FUCK OUR SOCIETY.

nice to have real adults run a program

Dennis_DeYoung

dnc said:

Dennis_DeYoung said:

You guys are so fucking stupid.

Just look at Bryce Sterk vs. Joey Thomas. Same shit, different coaches.

We got desperate and offered a local guy we thought probably didn't have enough talent and took him. In Thomas' case it was probably more nefarious because we were using him to help with Paul Arnold.

With Thomas, as soon as he got here and recruiting picked up we SHIT ALL OVER HIM. They told him he sucked. They told him they wanted him to quit. They told him he wasn't good enough. That he was a disgrace, etc. They didn't try to find another place for him, they just completely tried to make him quit.

With Sterk, they gave him a shot and when it became clear he wasn't going to play they went to him and asked if he wanted to play (because it didn't look like he was going to here). If he did, they would try to find him a fit at a school where he would play and be valued.

I wonder which approach works better in the long term... hmmm...

And you shit bags think Joey Thomas is just a bitter guy who quit. You are all fucking morons if you think Joey doesn't have a right to be pissed. And you are all fucking morons if you think we should've treated Sterk that way.

I’m having a hard time seeing the problem with how they treated Sterk. I assume you just said the opposite of what you meant.

Nobody is saying Thomas got a fair shake. He can be a whiny bitch and RN can be a fucking douche who screwed him over. Abundance is an option here.

That's my fucking point. We treated Sterk the correct way and when he's the coach at Lynden 20 years from now he won't fucking hate us and he will respect Jimmy Lake or whomever the coach is at that point.

What makes him a whiny bitch? The fact that he got fucked over? The fact that we treated him like shit?

Or the fact that he picked himself up, transferred to Montana State and got FUCKING DRAFTED BY THE NFL AND PLAYED IN THE NFL YOU STUPID FUCK?!?!

Passion

Meek said:

HuskyClaws said:

http://seattlemedium.com/coach-joey-thomas-inspires-youth-totally-optimize-potential/

During his freshmen year at the University of Washington, Thomas thought about quitting football, the game that he has loved since he was a little kid playing for CAYA. But a conversation with his best friend, former UW football player Paul Arnold, got Thomas to refocus and pursue his life’s dream at Montana State University.

“It was a frustrating time for him. He loved football so much and he put everything he had in it,” said Arnold, who also played for UW at the time. “I don’t think it was an ability issue, I think he just didn’t fit into what they were looking for. That probably was the lowest point in his sports career.

According to Thomas, Arnold encouraged him not to “let these folks break your spirit,” and to go somewhere else if he had to but to keep grinding. He went on to play for Montana State, but the impact on his life is something that helps motivate him to encourage his players to keep working and make a way to live out their dreams.

“They broke me,” said Thomas of his time with the UW football program. “They weren’t feeling me and I got no love.”

“To be that broken to feel like I had to quit the game that I loved… that was a huge low point for me,”

there are tens of thousands of players saying this about hundreds of schools. it's unfortunate if this is still a personal issue. even my grandfather, who got shot down in his P51-A Mustang and hauled off to Stalag Luft III in WWII where he had to dig fucking tunnels to get out eventually stopped being pissed at Germans.

My grandparents lived in German occupied France and watched people get randomly shot and Jews get hauled away.

They hated Germans ‘’til they died.

Dennis_DeYoung

Passion said:

Meek said:

HuskyClaws said:

http://seattlemedium.com/coach-joey-thomas-inspires-youth-totally-optimize-potential/

During his freshmen year at the University of Washington, Thomas thought about quitting football, the game that he has loved since he was a little kid playing for CAYA. But a conversation with his best friend, former UW football player Paul Arnold, got Thomas to refocus and pursue his life’s dream at Montana State University.

“It was a frustrating time for him. He loved football so much and he put everything he had in it,” said Arnold, who also played for UW at the time. “I don’t think it was an ability issue, I think he just didn’t fit into what they were looking for. That probably was the lowest point in his sports career.

According to Thomas, Arnold encouraged him not to “let these folks break your spirit,” and to go somewhere else if he had to but to keep grinding. He went on to play for Montana State, but the impact on his life is something that helps motivate him to encourage his players to keep working and make a way to live out their dreams.

“They broke me,” said Thomas of his time with the UW football program. “They weren’t feeling me and I got no love.”

“To be that broken to feel like I had to quit the game that I loved… that was a huge low point for me,”

there are tens of thousands of players saying this about hundreds of schools. it's unfortunate if this is still a personal issue. even my grandfather, who got shot down in his P51-A Mustang and hauled off to Stalag Luft III in WWII where he had to dig fucking tunnels to get out eventually stopped being pissed at Germans.

My grandparents lived in German occupied France and watched people get randomly shot and Jews get hauled away.

They hated Germans ‘’til they died.

Heat from the edge followed push up the middle in the German entrance into France if I remember correctly.

CuntWaffle

I can tell this is going to be a GOOD thread

Dennis_DeYoung

CuntWaffle said:

I can tell this is going to be a GOOD thread

It already is. How do you know? Because most of the poasts are me defending Joey Thomas.

Someone shoot me.

NorwegianHusky

Passion said:

Meek said:

HuskyClaws said:

http://seattlemedium.com/coach-joey-thomas-inspires-youth-totally-optimize-potential/

During his freshmen year at the University of Washington, Thomas thought about quitting football, the game that he has loved since he was a little kid playing for CAYA. But a conversation with his best friend, former UW football player Paul Arnold, got Thomas to refocus and pursue his life’s dream at Montana State University.

“It was a frustrating time for him. He loved football so much and he put everything he had in it,” said Arnold, who also played for UW at the time. “I don’t think it was an ability issue, I think he just didn’t fit into what they were looking for. That probably was the lowest point in his sports career.

According to Thomas, Arnold encouraged him not to “let these folks break your spirit,” and to go somewhere else if he had to but to keep grinding. He went on to play for Montana State, but the impact on his life is something that helps motivate him to encourage his players to keep working and make a way to live out their dreams.

“They broke me,” said Thomas of his time with the UW football program. “They weren’t feeling me and I got no love.”

“To be that broken to feel like I had to quit the game that I loved… that was a huge low point for me,”

there are tens of thousands of players saying this about hundreds of schools. it's unfortunate if this is still a personal issue. even my grandfather, who got shot down in his P51-A Mustang and hauled off to Stalag Luft III in WWII where he had to dig fucking tunnels to get out eventually stopped being pissed at Germans.

My grandparents lived in German occupied France and watched people get randomly shot and Jews get hauled away.

They hated Germans ‘’til they died.

I'm trying to think of a nationality that French people don't hate... Coming up blank.

pat_hm

Now that we've established why JT hates UW what does that have to do with Chris Petersen and his current Washington program? So we're just supposed to accept that he's going to be bitter against UW for the rest of his life because Rick was an asshole and forced him out nearly 20 years ago? To me that still makes him a petty individual to hold that grudge and infect his players with bullshit that isn't relevant in 2018.

When you look at the case of Sterk, isn't that an example of how to treat a player who can't hack it? Isn't that the type of program you would want to send your kids to? If Petersen is the anthesis of Rick and little Joey still holds a grudge then i'm sorry but i'm not going to have any sympathy for the guy despite how poorly he was treated. Life isn't always gumdrops and unicorns.

Do we need to throw him a bone because he's coaching the #1 player in the 2020 class? Absolutely. No question. Smalls is that important for not only on field production but also local perception. Washington was his first offer and I see no reason to believe why Petersen wouldn't prioritize him and do what he needs to do in order to smooth things over with little Joey. It is Petersen's job to convince Thomas that he isn't Rick...

I just think it's going to be funny when Joey's idol/mentor/guru Willie Taggart does the exact same thing to Treshawn at Florida State as what happened to him at UW.....