Asa "Mercer" Turner (the Trevor Lawrence of WC DBs), 4* 2019 S, Carlsbad (HS), CA (Committed)
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I have said it for months. Asa is my favorite recruit in this class. I think he was built for this defense. I love him.
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Will end up playing indecisive, this place will crown him Jake Browning of the D.Swaye said:I have said it for months. Asa is my favorite recruit in this class. I think he was built for this defense. I love him.
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I'm running low on WTFs, so hard hat on, going in:
This whole AIDS outbreak hasn't been a big deal for me, as I haven't really cared one way or another since official measurements were published. When he first committed, I was like, "Well, I don't see it in the film, but at 6'4" and 220 pounds, I understand the freak potential."
Now that it turns out he's pretty much average size for a safety, I just don't get it. Had to go back to the film, and I still don't get it. It's been a while since watching Taylor Rapp's film, but I remember him basically ending two players' lives in like the first three clips. It's a defensive player's highlight reel: you want to see people getting blown the fuck up. Turner gives me the impression of a player who just really doesn't want any part of it. Big kid for a high school safety, but big kid who'd rather be playing 7-on-7 with one of those wrestling helmets on. He makes tackles, but they're all of the "wrap the legs and roll" variety, even against much smaller backs and receivers. There's nothing wrong with fundamentals, and he's usually making these tackles in the open field, which is a big plus to see, but I wonder if he isn't going to move up to D-1, get the shit beaten out of him, and lose interest.
I got through five of his senior season game highlights looking for one--just one--hard, physical hit. Gave up at five games. At 6'4" and born-again-Death-Row-hard, I can see this. At 6'2", 195? Give me Ainius Smith, who at least has elite speed and, well, go to :40 in his hudl.
Summary: We're like 130 pages of AIDS into a guy who intercepts a pass and then pitches it to a teammate before getting tackled. -
1to392831weretaken said:
I'm running low on WTFs, so hard hat on, going in:
This whole AIDS outbreak hasn't been a big deal for me, as I haven't really cared one way or another since official measurements were published. When he first committed, I was like, "Well, I don't see it in the film, but at 6'4" and 220 pounds, I understand the freak potential."
Now that it turns out he's pretty much average size for a safety, I just don't get it. Had to go back to the film, and I still don't get it. It's been a while since watching Taylor Rapp's film, but I remember him basically ending two players' lives in like the first three clips. It's a defensive player's highlight reel: you want to see people getting blown the fuck up. Turner gives me the impression of a player who just really doesn't want any part of it. Big kid for a high school safety, but big kid who'd rather be playing 7-on-7 with one of those wrestling helmets on. He makes tackles, but they're all of the "wrap the legs and roll" variety, even against much smaller backs and receivers. There's nothing wrong with fundamentals, and he's usually making these tackles in the open field, which is a big plus to see, but I wonder if he isn't going to move up to D-1, get the shit beaten out of him, and lose interest.
I got through five of his senior season game highlights looking for one--just one--hard, physical hit. Gave up at five games. At 6'4" and born-again-Death-Row-hard, I can see this. At 6'2", 195? Give me Ainius Smith, who at least has elite speed and, well, go to :40 in his hudl.
Summary: We're like 130 pages of AIDS into a guy who intercepts a pass and then pitches it to a teammate before getting tackled.
1. One of your problems is comparing his film to Taylor’s. That’s like comparing the best meal you’ve ever had or the best sex you’ve ever had and expecting everything that’s good to match that level. Taylor was a straight up man amongst boys to the point he was calling out plays before they happened as a junior and has the quickest feet I’ve ever seen in high school.
2. They want Asa AND Ainias Smith. Ainias is a nickel and Asa in a strong safety
3. Asa physical tweener, high school coaches have a hard time finding fit because there is so many factors but mostly they are thinking about their teams success and not what the kid is going to translate too. They’ve moved him everywhere and the most important thing is to see Asa who hasn’t been playing safety for his whole career, improve by cutting down hesitation as he did from junior to senior year. He’s so far away from where he’s gonna be completely filled out but if you don’t see how special he is when his crappy LB gets blocked by BBK and he’s standing in a huge hole as the last person between the RB and the endzone, and then literally picks the RB up in a perfect form tackle and puts him on his back, then you are too picky. Projection, projection, projection. -
Ok message received don't call indecisive guy indecisive.
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This is a terrible take for several reasons. In addition to what @LaMichael_Corleone said:1to392831weretaken said:I'm running low on WTFs, so hard hat on, going in:
This whole AIDS outbreak hasn't been a big deal for me, as I haven't really cared one way or another since official measurements were published. When he first committed, I was like, "Well, I don't see it in the film, but at 6'4" and 220 pounds, I understand the freak potential."
Now that it turns out he's pretty much average size for a safety, I just don't get it. Had to go back to the film, and I still don't get it. It's been a while since watching Taylor Rapp's film, but I remember him basically ending two players' lives in like the first three clips. It's a defensive player's highlight reel: you want to see people getting blown the fuck up. Turner gives me the impression of a player who just really doesn't want any part of it. Big kid for a high school safety, but big kid who'd rather be playing 7-on-7 with one of those wrestling helmets on. He makes tackles, but they're all of the "wrap the legs and roll" variety, even against much smaller backs and receivers. There's nothing wrong with fundamentals, and he's usually making these tackles in the open field, which is a big plus to see, but I wonder if he isn't going to move up to D-1, get the shit beaten out of him, and lose interest.
I got through five of his senior season game highlights looking for one--just one--hard, physical hit. Gave up at five games. At 6'4" and born-again-Death-Row-hard, I can see this. At 6'2", 195? Give me Ainius Smith, who at least has elite speed and, well, go to :40 in his hudl.
Summary: We're like 130 pages of AIDS into a guy who intercepts a pass and then pitches it to a teammate before getting tackled.
1) You seem really surprised that Asa is about 1.5 inches shorter, and 15 pounds lighter than his listed measurables. That shit is par for the course in recruiting, I’m surprised you’re surprised. You should never have evaluated him at his listed measurables.
2) You’re comparing him to Rapp, who is arguably our greatest safety ever. Not to mention Rapp played in a 2A league in Whatcom fucking County - he was playing against kids who were too slow for the cross country team. No shit he doesn’t look as dominant in his HS film as Rapp, he has actual competition and will likely never be the player Rapp is.
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Page 1 of this thread is a good read. Everyone complaining that we were offering a white DB
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Was looking back through thread... Seems pretty clear this is Biggins' source. So I'm feeling alright about Turner.GaryFromTeenMom said:Biggins posted about his visit over on the ND site and said the following:
--Said it's down to ND & Washington. USC is in it but he doesn't think they are in it that much.
--It is TIGHT between ND/UW
--Said he talked to Asa's coach today who said Kelly made the best impression on Asa & his family. Said Kelly spent the most time with them.
--Mom wants him closer. Said if ND was in California then it'd be a no brainier.
--Biggins closes and says he thinks Washington led before the ND visit and mentioned if UW hit it out of the park this weekend, then it would be over. Biggins says that he doesn't get the feeling that happened and Asa wasn't "blown away on the trip".
The ND Goofs believe that the bag from Jimmy Lake wasn't large enough to seal it.
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@Swaye close this thread
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My first post in this thread, on page 2.Swaye said:Dennis_DeYoung said:Why aren't we
trying to signdeporting white people? -
TYFYS cunt, first instance of one of the best nicknames ever.CuntWaffle said:
Spam Chancellordnc said:
Ham Chancellor?Dennis_DeYoung said:
He’s half-Hawaiian. Let’s not besmirch him by calling him white.NorwegianHusky said:
Fuck that. I want white Kam Chancellor. You don't put a guy who can catch at edge rusher.1to392831weretaken said:Also, if this guy's really 6'4", there's no way he doesn't end up as an OLB a la Feeney. He's skinny now, but he's going to end up over 230, and watching his offensive highlights, he's deceptively strong and seems to relish doing the dirty work close to the line of scrimmage. This is Travis Feeney 2.0.
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1.) Not surprised at all. But it still puts things into perspective. At his originally listed measurables, the "project" made sense. With actual measurables, this is just an average sized strong safety who lacks aggression.GreenRiverGatorz said:
This is a terrible take for several reasons. In addition to what @LaMichael_Corleone said:1to392831weretaken said:I'm running low on WTFs, so hard hat on, going in:
This whole AIDS outbreak hasn't been a big deal for me, as I haven't really cared one way or another since official measurements were published. When he first committed, I was like, "Well, I don't see it in the film, but at 6'4" and 220 pounds, I understand the freak potential."
Now that it turns out he's pretty much average size for a safety, I just don't get it. Had to go back to the film, and I still don't get it. It's been a while since watching Taylor Rapp's film, but I remember him basically ending two players' lives in like the first three clips. It's a defensive player's highlight reel: you want to see people getting blown the fuck up. Turner gives me the impression of a player who just really doesn't want any part of it. Big kid for a high school safety, but big kid who'd rather be playing 7-on-7 with one of those wrestling helmets on. He makes tackles, but they're all of the "wrap the legs and roll" variety, even against much smaller backs and receivers. There's nothing wrong with fundamentals, and he's usually making these tackles in the open field, which is a big plus to see, but I wonder if he isn't going to move up to D-1, get the shit beaten out of him, and lose interest.
I got through five of his senior season game highlights looking for one--just one--hard, physical hit. Gave up at five games. At 6'4" and born-again-Death-Row-hard, I can see this. At 6'2", 195? Give me Ainius Smith, who at least has elite speed and, well, go to :40 in his hudl.
Summary: We're like 130 pages of AIDS into a guy who intercepts a pass and then pitches it to a teammate before getting tackled.
1) You seem really surprised that Asa is about 1.5 inches shorter, and 15 pounds lighter than his listed measurables. That shit is par for the course in recruiting, I’m surprised you’re surprised. You should never have evaluated him at his listed measurables.
2) You’re comparing him to Rapp, who is arguably our greatest safety ever. Not to mention Rapp played in a 2A league in Whatcom fucking County - he was playing against kids who were too slow for the cross country team. No shit he doesn’t look as dominant in his HS film as Rapp, he has actual competition and will likely never be the player Rapp is.
2.) Forget Rapp. Insert the name of ANY national level DB recruit in the country. Every single highlight reel I've watched from a UW-offered defensive back has at least one (usually many) clips of the guy blowing up a receiver or running back--all the way from Bellingham 2A to Trinity League. I brought up Ainius Smith for a reason: Smaller, 3-star corner/safety who murders a guy in just his second defensive highlight. It was terrible fundamentals (would have been targeting in college), but it displayed the kind of hunger for contact required to succeed on the defensive side of the ball in college. Hell, in Josh Calvert's film, he lays dudes out while playing quarterback. That I can't find such a play for Turner is troubling. Football--unless you're in the Big-12--is a physical game. 4-star college defenders should be animals against any kind of high school competition. What's he going to do when Eno Benjamin is barrelling down at him? That's all I'm getting at.
Lastly, 116 pages of AIDS is an awful lot of hype for a player that needs to be justified by "projection, projection, projection." If we have to triple project to imagine this guy being good, we should have just used the scholarship on a project that really wants to be here like McMillan or someone. All of the angst has been really disproportional. For 116 pages, I want to bring up the kid's film and feel like I'm watching a Godzilla movie. -
His ability to blow people up is projection. He can already tackle and his ball skills are elite. Today.1to392831weretaken said:
1.) Not surprised at all. But it still puts things into perspective. At his originally listed measurables, the "project" made sense. With actual measurables, this is just an average sized strong safety who lacks aggression.GreenRiverGatorz said:
This is a terrible take for several reasons. In addition to what @LaMichael_Corleone said:1to392831weretaken said:I'm running low on WTFs, so hard hat on, going in:
This whole AIDS outbreak hasn't been a big deal for me, as I haven't really cared one way or another since official measurements were published. When he first committed, I was like, "Well, I don't see it in the film, but at 6'4" and 220 pounds, I understand the freak potential."
Now that it turns out he's pretty much average size for a safety, I just don't get it. Had to go back to the film, and I still don't get it. It's been a while since watching Taylor Rapp's film, but I remember him basically ending two players' lives in like the first three clips. It's a defensive player's highlight reel: you want to see people getting blown the fuck up. Turner gives me the impression of a player who just really doesn't want any part of it. Big kid for a high school safety, but big kid who'd rather be playing 7-on-7 with one of those wrestling helmets on. He makes tackles, but they're all of the "wrap the legs and roll" variety, even against much smaller backs and receivers. There's nothing wrong with fundamentals, and he's usually making these tackles in the open field, which is a big plus to see, but I wonder if he isn't going to move up to D-1, get the shit beaten out of him, and lose interest.
I got through five of his senior season game highlights looking for one--just one--hard, physical hit. Gave up at five games. At 6'4" and born-again-Death-Row-hard, I can see this. At 6'2", 195? Give me Ainius Smith, who at least has elite speed and, well, go to :40 in his hudl.
Summary: We're like 130 pages of AIDS into a guy who intercepts a pass and then pitches it to a teammate before getting tackled.
1) You seem really surprised that Asa is about 1.5 inches shorter, and 15 pounds lighter than his listed measurables. That shit is par for the course in recruiting, I’m surprised you’re surprised. You should never have evaluated him at his listed measurables.
2) You’re comparing him to Rapp, who is arguably our greatest safety ever. Not to mention Rapp played in a 2A league in Whatcom fucking County - he was playing against kids who were too slow for the cross country team. No shit he doesn’t look as dominant in his HS film as Rapp, he has actual competition and will likely never be the player Rapp is.
2.) Forget Rapp. Insert the name of ANY national level DB recruit in the country. Every single highlight reel I've watched from a UW-offered defensive back has at least one (usually many) clips of the guy blowing up a receiver or running back--all the way from Bellingham 2A to Trinity League. I brought up Ainius Smith for a reason: Smaller, 3-star corner/safety who murders a guy in just his second defensive highlight. It was terrible fundamentals (would have been targeting in college), but it displayed the kind of hunger for contact required to succeed on the defensive side of the ball in college. Hell, in Josh Calvert's film, he lays dudes out while playing quarterback. That I can't find such a play for Turner is troubling. Football--unless you're in the Big-12--is a physical game. 4-star college defenders should be animals against any kind of high school competition. What's he going to do when Eno Benjamin is barrelling down at him? That's all I'm getting at.
Lastly, 116 pages of AIDS is an awful lot of hype for a player that needs to be justified by "projection, projection, projection." If we have to triple project to imagine this guy being good, we should have just used the scholarship on a project that really wants to be here like McMillan or someone. All of the angst has been really disproportional. For 116 pages, I want to bring up the kid's film and feel like I'm watching a Godzilla movie.
He's not just about projection, just on the one thing you seem to care about.
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Anyone hating on an 18 year old for wafflin is a doog bitch. This kid is gonna slay.
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This kid is 6'2 200 with a huge wingspan and a 40" vertical. He's not some "average sized" safety even if he's a bit lighter than we thought.1to392831weretaken said:
1.) Not surprised at all. But it still puts things into perspective. At his originally listed measurables, the "project" made sense. With actual measurables, this is just an average sized strong safety who lacks aggression.GreenRiverGatorz said:
This is a terrible take for several reasons. In addition to what @LaMichael_Corleone said:1to392831weretaken said:I'm running low on WTFs, so hard hat on, going in:
This whole AIDS outbreak hasn't been a big deal for me, as I haven't really cared one way or another since official measurements were published. When he first committed, I was like, "Well, I don't see it in the film, but at 6'4" and 220 pounds, I understand the freak potential."
Now that it turns out he's pretty much average size for a safety, I just don't get it. Had to go back to the film, and I still don't get it. It's been a while since watching Taylor Rapp's film, but I remember him basically ending two players' lives in like the first three clips. It's a defensive player's highlight reel: you want to see people getting blown the fuck up. Turner gives me the impression of a player who just really doesn't want any part of it. Big kid for a high school safety, but big kid who'd rather be playing 7-on-7 with one of those wrestling helmets on. He makes tackles, but they're all of the "wrap the legs and roll" variety, even against much smaller backs and receivers. There's nothing wrong with fundamentals, and he's usually making these tackles in the open field, which is a big plus to see, but I wonder if he isn't going to move up to D-1, get the shit beaten out of him, and lose interest.
I got through five of his senior season game highlights looking for one--just one--hard, physical hit. Gave up at five games. At 6'4" and born-again-Death-Row-hard, I can see this. At 6'2", 195? Give me Ainius Smith, who at least has elite speed and, well, go to :40 in his hudl.
Summary: We're like 130 pages of AIDS into a guy who intercepts a pass and then pitches it to a teammate before getting tackled.
1) You seem really surprised that Asa is about 1.5 inches shorter, and 15 pounds lighter than his listed measurables. That shit is par for the course in recruiting, I’m surprised you’re surprised. You should never have evaluated him at his listed measurables.
2) You’re comparing him to Rapp, who is arguably our greatest safety ever. Not to mention Rapp played in a 2A league in Whatcom fucking County - he was playing against kids who were too slow for the cross country team. No shit he doesn’t look as dominant in his HS film as Rapp, he has actual competition and will likely never be the player Rapp is.
2.) Forget Rapp. Insert the name of ANY national level DB recruit in the country. Every single highlight reel I've watched from a UW-offered defensive back has at least one (usually many) clips of the guy blowing up a receiver or running back--all the way from Bellingham 2A to Trinity League. I brought up Ainius Smith for a reason: Smaller, 3-star corner/safety who murders a guy in just his second defensive highlight. It was terrible fundamentals (would have been targeting in college), but it displayed the kind of hunger for contact required to succeed on the defensive side of the ball in college. Hell, in Josh Calvert's film, he lays dudes out while playing quarterback. That I can't find such a play for Turner is troubling. Football--unless you're in the Big-12--is a physical game. 4-star college defenders should be animals against any kind of high school competition. What's he going to do when Eno Benjamin is barrelling down at him? That's all I'm getting at.
Lastly, 116 pages of AIDS is an awful lot of hype for a player that needs to be justified by "projection, projection, projection." If we have to triple project to imagine this guy being good, we should have just used the scholarship on a project that really wants to be here like McMillan or someone. All of the angst has been really disproportional. For 116 pages, I want to bring up the kid's film and feel like I'm watching a Godzilla movie. -
Notre Dame insider Kevin Sinclair with a crystal ball flip to UW. Pretty much just waiting on Loy's salty ass to flip his.
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You’re welcome. Now where’s my cut?1?!CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
TYFYS cunt, first instance of one of the best nicknames ever.CuntWaffle said:
Spam Chancellordnc said:
Ham Chancellor?Dennis_DeYoung said:
He’s half-Hawaiian. Let’s not besmirch him by calling him white.NorwegianHusky said:
Fuck that. I want white Kam Chancellor. You don't put a guy who can catch at edge rusher.1to392831weretaken said:Also, if this guy's really 6'4", there's no way he doesn't end up as an OLB a la Feeney. He's skinny now, but he's going to end up over 230, and watching his offensive highlights, he's deceptively strong and seems to relish doing the dirty work close to the line of scrimmage. This is Travis Feeney 2.0.
