OFFICIAL Trump border wall speech thread
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Here's a flavor or some of the "lies" and "misleading" statements told by Trump according to the NYTimes:insinceredawg said:
Trump's data and facts were either misleading or outright lies. As usual. Guess that makes him a lying Kunt in your eyes right?SFGbob said:
I've never once defend a lie told by Trump. And if you're so bothered by lying why do you do it here all the time? You and I can't control Trump's lies, can you control your own?insinceredawg said:
Do you not see the irony of you calling people out as liars while continuing to defend and suck off Trump, a pathological liar who has told thousands of lies since he took office?SFGbob said:If there's such a crisis at the border like he claims (with no facts or data to back it up)
If your argument is so strong why do you feel the need to lie? Trump cited plenty of data and facts to back up his argument. Now you can disagree with his assessment that it's a crisis but there is no need to lie and claim that he cited no data or fact.
If the shut down gets a barrier built in the long run we'll be better off for it.
Shocking how your failed to address your claim that Trump cited no data or facts and that walls don't work.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/08/us/politics/trump-speech.html
“The federal government remains shut down for one reason and one reason only: because Democrats will not fund border security.”
False.
Democrats have offered $1.3 billion in funding for border security measures like enhanced surveillance and fortified fencing. They do not support Mr. Trump’s border wall.
At a meeting with Ms. Pelosi and Mr. Schumer in December, Mr. Trump took responsibility for the partial government shutdown.
“I will take the mantle. I will be the one to shut it down. I’m not going to blame you for it,” he said.
— Linda Qiu
“Every day, Customs and Border Patrol agents encounter thousands of illegal immigrants trying to enter our country.”
This is misleading.
In November, the agency, which is actually named Customs and Border Protection (and which oversees the Border Patrol), apprehended 51,856 people trying to cross the border illegally. That’s about 1,700 per day.
The agency also deemed another 10,600 “inadmissible,” which refers to people who seek lawful entry into the United States but are barred from doing so. Together, that would be over 2,000, but “inadmissible” is not the same thing as illegal entry.
— Linda Qiu
I'm starting to better understand why you up arrowed Hondo's head up the ass dumbfuckery.
Meanwhile you stated a flat out lie. You weren't just "misleading" you claimed that Trump cited no facts and no data.
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After reading this thread, I suspect it is appropriate to expand the Blu82 list of stipulations. Unfortunately, dumb fucks will be dumb fucks.
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Where's have I ever seen gay Bob defend Trump's lies? Never seen it. Have you insincere? Race have you seen it?SFGbob said:
Here's a flavor or some of the "lies" and "misleading" statements told by Trump according to the NYTimes:insinceredawg said:
Trump's data and facts were either misleading or outright lies. As usual. Guess that makes him a lying Kunt in your eyes right?SFGbob said:
I've never once defend a lie told by Trump. And if you're so bothered by lying why do you do it here all the time? You and I can't control Trump's lies, can you control your own?insinceredawg said:
Do you not see the irony of you calling people out as liars while continuing to defend and suck off Trump, a pathological liar who has told thousands of lies since he took office?SFGbob said:If there's such a crisis at the border like he claims (with no facts or data to back it up)
If your argument is so strong why do you feel the need to lie? Trump cited plenty of data and facts to back up his argument. Now you can disagree with his assessment that it's a crisis but there is no need to lie and claim that he cited no data or fact.
If the shut down gets a barrier built in the long run we'll be better off for it.
Shocking how your failed to address your claim that Trump cited no data or facts and that walls don't work.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/08/us/politics/trump-speech.html
“The federal government remains shut down for one reason and one reason only: because Democrats will not fund border security.”
False.
Democrats have offered $1.3 billion in funding for border security measures like enhanced surveillance and fortified fencing. They do not support Mr. Trump’s border wall.
At a meeting with Ms. Pelosi and Mr. Schumer in December, Mr. Trump took responsibility for the partial government shutdown.
“I will take the mantle. I will be the one to shut it down. I’m not going to blame you for it,” he said.
— Linda Qiu
“Every day, Customs and Border Patrol agents encounter thousands of illegal immigrants trying to enter our country.”
This is misleading.
In November, the agency, which is actually named Customs and Border Protection (and which oversees the Border Patrol), apprehended 51,856 people trying to cross the border illegally. That’s about 1,700 per day.
The agency also deemed another 10,600 “inadmissible,” which refers to people who seek lawful entry into the United States but are barred from doing so. Together, that would be over 2,000, but “inadmissible” is not the same thing as illegal entry.
— Linda Qiu
I'm starting to better understand why you up arrowed Hondo's head up the ass dumbfuckery.
Meanwhile you stated a flat out lie. You weren't just "misleading" you claimed that Trump cited no facts and no data. -
Well we now know that because Trump referred to the "Customs and Border Protection" agency as the "Border Patrol" and because they only encounter 1,700 illegal immigrants a day who are trying to enter the country and Trump said "thousands" that Trump is obviously a liar.Blu82 said:After reading this thread, I suspect it is appropriate to expand the Blu82 list of stipulations. Unfortunately, dumb fucks will be dumb fucks.
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You got me Hondo. Trump said "thousands" and the actually number is only 1700. What a dirty liar that guy is.2001400ex said:
Where's have I ever seen gay Bob defend Trump's lies? Never seen it. Have you insincere? Race have you seen it?SFGbob said:
Here's a flavor or some of the "lies" and "misleading" statements told by Trump according to the NYTimes:insinceredawg said:
Trump's data and facts were either misleading or outright lies. As usual. Guess that makes him a lying Kunt in your eyes right?SFGbob said:
I've never once defend a lie told by Trump. And if you're so bothered by lying why do you do it here all the time? You and I can't control Trump's lies, can you control your own?insinceredawg said:
Do you not see the irony of you calling people out as liars while continuing to defend and suck off Trump, a pathological liar who has told thousands of lies since he took office?SFGbob said:If there's such a crisis at the border like he claims (with no facts or data to back it up)
If your argument is so strong why do you feel the need to lie? Trump cited plenty of data and facts to back up his argument. Now you can disagree with his assessment that it's a crisis but there is no need to lie and claim that he cited no data or fact.
If the shut down gets a barrier built in the long run we'll be better off for it.
Shocking how your failed to address your claim that Trump cited no data or facts and that walls don't work.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/08/us/politics/trump-speech.html
“The federal government remains shut down for one reason and one reason only: because Democrats will not fund border security.”
False.
Democrats have offered $1.3 billion in funding for border security measures like enhanced surveillance and fortified fencing. They do not support Mr. Trump’s border wall.
At a meeting with Ms. Pelosi and Mr. Schumer in December, Mr. Trump took responsibility for the partial government shutdown.
“I will take the mantle. I will be the one to shut it down. I’m not going to blame you for it,” he said.
— Linda Qiu
“Every day, Customs and Border Patrol agents encounter thousands of illegal immigrants trying to enter our country.”
This is misleading.
In November, the agency, which is actually named Customs and Border Protection (and which oversees the Border Patrol), apprehended 51,856 people trying to cross the border illegally. That’s about 1,700 per day.
The agency also deemed another 10,600 “inadmissible,” which refers to people who seek lawful entry into the United States but are barred from doing so. Together, that would be over 2,000, but “inadmissible” is not the same thing as illegal entry.
— Linda Qiu
I'm starting to better understand why you up arrowed Hondo's head up the ass dumbfuckery.
Meanwhile you stated a flat out lie. You weren't just "misleading" you claimed that Trump cited no facts and no data.
Btw, the 1700 number is only because they don't count people who are seeking asylum but are turned away at the border as illegals.
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If I could only find one example of you defending Trump.SFGbob said:
You got me Hondo. Trump said "thousands" and the actually number is only 1700. What a dirty liar that guy is.2001400ex said:
Where's have I ever seen gay Bob defend Trump's lies? Never seen it. Have you insincere? Race have you seen it?SFGbob said:
Here's a flavor or some of the "lies" and "misleading" statements told by Trump according to the NYTimes:insinceredawg said:
Trump's data and facts were either misleading or outright lies. As usual. Guess that makes him a lying Kunt in your eyes right?SFGbob said:
I've never once defend a lie told by Trump. And if you're so bothered by lying why do you do it here all the time? You and I can't control Trump's lies, can you control your own?insinceredawg said:
Do you not see the irony of you calling people out as liars while continuing to defend and suck off Trump, a pathological liar who has told thousands of lies since he took office?SFGbob said:If there's such a crisis at the border like he claims (with no facts or data to back it up)
If your argument is so strong why do you feel the need to lie? Trump cited plenty of data and facts to back up his argument. Now you can disagree with his assessment that it's a crisis but there is no need to lie and claim that he cited no data or fact.
If the shut down gets a barrier built in the long run we'll be better off for it.
Shocking how your failed to address your claim that Trump cited no data or facts and that walls don't work.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/08/us/politics/trump-speech.html
“The federal government remains shut down for one reason and one reason only: because Democrats will not fund border security.”
False.
Democrats have offered $1.3 billion in funding for border security measures like enhanced surveillance and fortified fencing. They do not support Mr. Trump’s border wall.
At a meeting with Ms. Pelosi and Mr. Schumer in December, Mr. Trump took responsibility for the partial government shutdown.
“I will take the mantle. I will be the one to shut it down. I’m not going to blame you for it,” he said.
— Linda Qiu
“Every day, Customs and Border Patrol agents encounter thousands of illegal immigrants trying to enter our country.”
This is misleading.
In November, the agency, which is actually named Customs and Border Protection (and which oversees the Border Patrol), apprehended 51,856 people trying to cross the border illegally. That’s about 1,700 per day.
The agency also deemed another 10,600 “inadmissible,” which refers to people who seek lawful entry into the United States but are barred from doing so. Together, that would be over 2,000, but “inadmissible” is not the same thing as illegal entry.
— Linda Qiu
I'm starting to better understand why you up arrowed Hondo's head up the ass dumbfuckery.
Meanwhile you stated a flat out lie. You weren't just "misleading" you claimed that Trump cited no facts and no data. -
Gay Bob is the most pathetic of all the Trump dicksuckers. Denies he's a blind Trump supporter but at every opportunity he's getting on his knees and taking in 3 full inches of orange cock. Fuck off faggot.2001400ex said:
Where's have I ever seen gay Bob defend Trump's lies? Never seen it. Have you insincere? Race have you seen it?SFGbob said:
Here's a flavor or some of the "lies" and "misleading" statements told by Trump according to the NYTimes:insinceredawg said:
Trump's data and facts were either misleading or outright lies. As usual. Guess that makes him a lying Kunt in your eyes right?SFGbob said:
I've never once defend a lie told by Trump. And if you're so bothered by lying why do you do it here all the time? You and I can't control Trump's lies, can you control your own?insinceredawg said:
Do you not see the irony of you calling people out as liars while continuing to defend and suck off Trump, a pathological liar who has told thousands of lies since he took office?SFGbob said:If there's such a crisis at the border like he claims (with no facts or data to back it up)
If your argument is so strong why do you feel the need to lie? Trump cited plenty of data and facts to back up his argument. Now you can disagree with his assessment that it's a crisis but there is no need to lie and claim that he cited no data or fact.
If the shut down gets a barrier built in the long run we'll be better off for it.
Shocking how your failed to address your claim that Trump cited no data or facts and that walls don't work.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/08/us/politics/trump-speech.html
“The federal government remains shut down for one reason and one reason only: because Democrats will not fund border security.”
False.
Democrats have offered $1.3 billion in funding for border security measures like enhanced surveillance and fortified fencing. They do not support Mr. Trump’s border wall.
At a meeting with Ms. Pelosi and Mr. Schumer in December, Mr. Trump took responsibility for the partial government shutdown.
“I will take the mantle. I will be the one to shut it down. I’m not going to blame you for it,” he said.
— Linda Qiu
“Every day, Customs and Border Patrol agents encounter thousands of illegal immigrants trying to enter our country.”
This is misleading.
In November, the agency, which is actually named Customs and Border Protection (and which oversees the Border Patrol), apprehended 51,856 people trying to cross the border illegally. That’s about 1,700 per day.
The agency also deemed another 10,600 “inadmissible,” which refers to people who seek lawful entry into the United States but are barred from doing so. Together, that would be over 2,000, but “inadmissible” is not the same thing as illegal entry.
— Linda Qiu
I'm starting to better understand why you up arrowed Hondo's head up the ass dumbfuckery.
Meanwhile you stated a flat out lie. You weren't just "misleading" you claimed that Trump cited no facts and no data. -
I just called him a dirty liar Hondo.
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Oh whatever do you mean? I'm outraged that Trump said "thousands" of illegals when the actually number is only 1,700. Good day of work for you Kunt.
Meanwhile I'm trying to wrap my head around how someone who is such a stickler for precise language and 100% factual accuracy could say Trump cited no data or facts and that I'm a Trump dick sucker? I've never even met the man. Surely someone who has such a fetish for complete 100% accuracy wouldn't be making such blatantly false statements would they? -
Just so I’m clear. When the number reaches 2000/day, then the Democrats will be for a wall?
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Since that 1700 number is an average certainly there are some days where that number is in the "thousands" but on average it's only 1,700 if you don't count any of the rejected people who try and enter legally, obviously Trump is a dirty liar.USMChawk said:Just so I’m clear. When the number reaches 2000/day, then the Democrats will be for a wall?
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That 1700/day was just for November. In FY 2018 there were 395,579 apprehensions (1084/day) which was a 21% increase over FY 2017. But, and this is the important part, it’s not 2000/day....
Liberal logic.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/border-apprehensions-have-jumped-in-2018-u-s -
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If you want some fun read that link from the NYTimes where they "fact" check Trump. They cite another one of Trump's statements as "misleading" when he said that Mexico is huge source of our illegal opiates. That statement is a statement of fact. But because a border wall wouldn't do much if anything to deter that, something Trump never claimed, it's "misleading" because most of these opiates come across a legal points of entry.USMChawk said:That 1700/day was just for November. In FY 2018 there were 395,579 apprehensions (1084/day) which was a 21% increase over FY 2017. But, and this is the important part, it’s not 2000/day....
Liberal logic.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/border-apprehensions-have-jumped-in-2018-u-s
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The newyork times did a pretty crappy job of this - two were determined to be false, most needed context - as did the rebuttal. You blindly listen to that crap and are just as bad as anyone who blindly follows the trumpster. You should relax a little but at this point I will be happy to see you go totally unhinged when he gets reelected. HondoFS and you - oh to hell with it.insinceredawg said:
Trump's data and facts were either misleading or outright lies. As usual. Guess that makes him a lying Kunt in your eyes right?SFGbob said:
I've never once defend a lie told by Trump. And if you're so bothered by lying why do you do it here all the time? You and I can't control Trump's lies, can you control your own?insinceredawg said:
Do you not see the irony of you calling people out as liars while continuing to defend and suck off Trump, a pathological liar who has told thousands of lies since he took office?SFGbob said:If there's such a crisis at the border like he claims (with no facts or data to back it up)
If your argument is so strong why do you feel the need to lie? Trump cited plenty of data and facts to back up his argument. Now you can disagree with his assessment that it's a crisis but there is no need to lie and claim that he cited no data or fact.
If the shut down gets a barrier built in the long run we'll be better off for it.
Shocking how your failed to address your claim that Trump cited no data or facts and that walls don't work.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/08/us/politics/trump-speech.html -
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Trump couldn't strike a deal for the wall when the GOP controlled the house. Why the hell does he think he can get it done now? This is all a political ploy to appease his racist base.
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Still needed 60 votes in the Senate. Using your standard you just lied.insinceredawg said:Trump couldn't strike a deal for the wall when the GOP controlled the house. Why the hell does he think he can get it done now? This is all a political ploy to appease his racist base.
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The great deal maker!RaceBannon said: -
Give him the wall and everything he wants. No compromise. -
Again. Why are you lying?SFGbob said:
Still needed 60 votes in the Senate. Using your standard you just lied.insinceredawg said:Trump couldn't strike a deal for the wall when the GOP controlled the house. Why the hell does he think he can get it done now? This is all a political ploy to appease his racist base.
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We see the opposition is purely political damage to the country be dammed
Insincere and hondo have no problem with enabling the rape of 80% of the women
But we're racist. Somehow just don't ask how
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There's only one way to settle this debate we're having. Let's meet here on Aurora in N. Seattle 1130PM tonight.
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Why is trump failing so miserably at this? He’s a remarkably bad negotiator, no one respects him, and he has zero credibility with anyone (except for, well, you know). Maybe someone more competent would do a better job at border security.RaceBannon said:We see the opposition is purely political damage to the country be dammed
Insincere and hondo have no problem with enabling the rape of 80% of the women
But we're racist. Somehow just don't ask how
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As long as its shut down it's not a fail
Suck nancy's dick a little harder -
N.J.: What’s the job?RaceBannon said:We see the opposition is purely political damage to the country be dammed
Insincere and hondo have no problem with enabling the rape of 80% of the women
But we're racist. Somehow just don't ask how
Funny it wasn't racist when the Democrats voted for a wall
McConnell: The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.
I feel this is groundhog day. -
Are you angry? I don’t want the federal government to open. I support closing the entire useless shit show once and for all. I get the impression trump and his cultists do want the government to open. Why else all this frustration and lashing out?RaceBannon said:As long as its shut down it's not a fail
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Because Obama damaged the country2001400ex said:
N.J.: What’s the job?RaceBannon said:We see the opposition is purely political damage to the country be dammed
Insincere and hondo have no problem with enabling the rape of 80% of the women
But we're racist. Somehow just don't ask how
Funny it wasn't racist when the Democrats voted for a wall
McConnell: The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.
I feel this is groundhog day.
His policies sucked
Democrats wanted a wall.
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Wrong. Why are you such a lying Kunt, Race? Even Trump clearly distinguishes his wall plan from the Dems' border fence which is much smaller in scale and inexpensive in comparison.RaceBannon said:
Because Obama damaged the country2001400ex said:
N.J.: What’s the job?RaceBannon said:We see the opposition is purely political damage to the country be dammed
Insincere and hondo have no problem with enabling the rape of 80% of the women
But we're racist. Somehow just don't ask how
Funny it wasn't racist when the Democrats voted for a wall
McConnell: The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.
I feel this is groundhog day.
His policies sucked
Democrats wanted a wall.
You simple minded little fuck
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2019/jan/09/donald-trump/trump-democrats-reverse-border-wall-position/
Trump said Schumer has "has repeatedly supported a physical barrier in the past along with many other Democrats. They changed their mind only after I was elected president."
Schumer, along with tens of other Democrats including former President Barack Obama, voted for the Secure Fence Act of 2006, which authorized building a fence along about 700 miles of the border between the United States and Mexico. That’s the majority of the barrier in place today along the southern border.
However, the fence was mocked as a "nothing wall" by Trump in the past and was far less ambitious, both politically and physically, than the wall Trump wants to build now.
Finally, Trump says the Democrats no longer support their previous position simply because he wants it. But Democrats have actually proposed current funding for the fencing that was approved in 2006.
We rate this statement Mostly False.
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