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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,814
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    edited December 2018

    Sledog said:

    So, btw, we've had commie dumb fucks around forever. It's not a new problem. The point of a classically liberal education is to produce people who can think critically and on their own. It's not generate a bunch of bots who you find acceptable.


    Of course not its to make bots who are dumb enough to think socialism can work

    Socialism and communism should get the same treatment that Nazism gets in academia

    Never a fucking again

    No. As I said, there have always been people who think it will work, and there are now. During the years you're getting an education you are ideally forced to look at other points of view and understand them before rejecting them. There's not only no harm in that; it's in fact a good thing.

    It should all be taught and discussed. Nothing should go in the closet. That a half-dozen bananas who want to bury Shakespeare because he was white does not mean that our colleges are indoctrination camps. If they were, they've been so since the 1960s, and if so, we'd have been overrun by now. To be clear, I would vehemently oppose anyone arguing for the censorship of the study of the Nazi movement. It is part of any poli sci or history or philosophy class discussing the concept of fascism. They are studying today as much as they ever have. Believe it and don't believe this hysterical bullshit.

    Too much chicken little.
    The fact is that college professor's promote socialism and communism (same thing anyway) as viable and desirable. "The right purple just haven't tried it" line. What's odd is commies murder the educated first. Being stupid enough to sign your own death warrant is special!
    Brilliant as usual.

    What shade of purple are these professors saying haven't tried communism?

    It's a phone get over it. If your not smart enough to figure out the word should have been there it was "fuck off"!
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,814
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    SFGbob said:

    That a half-dozen bananas who want to bury Shakespeare because he was white does not mean that our colleges are indoctrination camps.

    Yeah, that's all it is. Just a "half dozen."


    Study: Top universities dropping Shakespeare requirement
    William Shakespeare's works are no longer required reading for English majors at most top universities, according to a study
    The Chicago Sun-Times
    April 23, 2015 by Sandra Guy
    “Ignorance is the curse of God; knowledge is the wing wherewith we fly to heaven,” William Shakespeare wrote in “Henry VI, Part II.”

    Educators would likely agree. But for English majors at top schools including Northwestern University and the University of Chicago, a working knowledge of Shakespeare is no longer required, according to a study published Wednesday.

    Indeed, only four of 52 universities and liberal-arts colleges ranked highest by U.S. News & World Report required their English majors to take a class delving into Shakespeare’s comedies, tragedies and historical works, according to the study by the American Council of Trustees and Alumni.



    1. Many top-tier universities have open curriculum. We can debate whether that's a good thing or not, but it was not invented as a means to bury white historical figures. The general view out there is that for very elite schools that only admit the best of the best of the best, the kids are typically intellectually curious and motivated enough to structure a solid education with fewer specific requirements than what has historically been the case. There is still some structure, but there aren't as many or any lists of specific classes one needs to take. It's not a designed assault on white authors. There is similarly no requirement to take, for example, an African American Lit. course. Or a course on history of south america. This might not be a good idea a schools with less talented and less motivated students. As a parent of a graduate of one of those schools, I can tell you it wasn't a problem. She took advantage of what was there, and then some. And the University of Chicago is, trust me, a very open place where all kinds of views are expressed and there are no safe spaces. None. Chicago in particular is not a great place for sensitive people. Nor is Dartmouth. Nor is Wesleyan. Nor is Harvard. Nor is Washington & Lee. There are other places that are similar. Schools are not as uniformly liberal as hysterical people suppose.

    2. Why are you worried about Shakespeare? There are things that were studied at Oxford at the turn of the century that weren't required reading when I was at the U either, and that was a long time ago. So what? Things change. Nobody made me read Invisible Man. Nobody made my kid read it either. Shakespeare is there and taught at all those schools for those who want to take it. If you posit that kids should have to take Shakespeare, then we should talk about the other writers they should have to study as well.

    3. I think/thought what we were discussing was the PC pressure by some to reject Shakespeare because he was dead, male and white. There are PC people out there. I don't deny it. But our colleges are not indoctrination camps for commies. I've been an adjunct at UW, Seattle U & SPU. I've almost completed educated three smart kids who attend or have attended schools that one would guess are not right wing heavy ... that is, I didn't write checks to Liberty University or Hillsdale College.
    Obama admin quoting Mao and hanging Che posters and flags is always special too.
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    edited December 2018
    It's not just a "half dozen" nuts who want to bury Shakespeare. Lot of words just in order to avoid admitting that you were talking out your ass Coug.
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,746
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    edited December 2018
    SFGbob said:

    It's not just "half dozen" nuts who want to bury Shakespeare. Lot of words just in order to avoid admitting that you were talking out your ass Coug.

    Should have known better than to take your post seriously and attempt a serious response. I see you still struggle with the difference between hyperbole and exaggeration.

    It's right about now that you'd be losing your shit for someone not responding to each and every word of your "arguments". Good work. Good effort.

    If you want to think that our nation's universities are indoctrination camps churning out socialist bots, then please, have at it. I'm not really worried it, and I'm not really worried about you being worried about it.
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,746
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    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    So, btw, we've had commie dumb fucks around forever. It's not a new problem. The point of a classically liberal education is to produce people who can think critically and on their own. It's not generate a bunch of bots who you find acceptable.


    Of course not its to make bots who are dumb enough to think socialism can work

    Socialism and communism should get the same treatment that Nazism gets in academia

    Never a fucking again

    No. As I said, there have always been people who think it will work, and there are now. During the years you're getting an education you are ideally forced to look at other points of view and understand them before rejecting them. There's not only no harm in that; it's in fact a good thing.

    It should all be taught and discussed. Nothing should go in the closet. That a half-dozen bananas who want to bury Shakespeare because he was white does not mean that our colleges are indoctrination camps. If they were, they've been so since the 1960s, and if so, we'd have been overrun by now. To be clear, I would vehemently oppose anyone arguing for the censorship of the study of the Nazi movement. It is part of any poli sci or history or philosophy class discussing the concept of fascism. They are studying today as much as they ever have. Believe it and don't believe this hysterical bullshit.

    Too much chicken little.
    The fact is that college professor's promote socialism and communism (same thing anyway) as viable and desirable. "The right purple just haven't tried it" line. What's odd is commies murder the educated first. Being stupid enough to sign your own death warrant is special!
    Brilliant as usual.

    What shade of purple are these professors saying haven't tried communism?

    It's a phone get over it. If your not smart enough to figure out the word should have been there it was "fuck off"!
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    SFGbob said:

    It's not just "half dozen" nuts who want to bury Shakespeare. Lot of words just in order to avoid admitting that you were talking out your ass Coug.

    Should have known better than to take your post seriously and attempt a serious response. I see you still struggle with the difference between hyperbole and exaggeration.

    It's right about now that you'd be losing your shit for someone not responding to each and every word of your "arguments". Good work. Good effort.

    If you want to think that our nation's universities are indoctrination camps churning out socialist bots, then please, have at it. I'm not really worried it, and I'm not really worried about you being worried about it.
    I should have known you'd lack the integrity to admit you were talking out your ass. The entire purpose of your post was to deflect from the fact that the Liberal Arts are under attack by the left and that the movement to cut back on the teaching of "dead white males" and Western Civilization isn't a significant movement on the left. You even posted some "pox on both their houses" bullshit attempting to blame Conservatives for attacking the Liberal Arts.

    If calling you wordy fucking hack is "losing my shit" so be it. Now go fly speck some more spelling Kunt.
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,746
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    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    It's not just "half dozen" nuts who want to bury Shakespeare. Lot of words just in order to avoid admitting that you were talking out your ass Coug.

    Should have known better than to take your post seriously and attempt a serious response. I see you still struggle with the difference between hyperbole and exaggeration.

    It's right about now that you'd be losing your shit for someone not responding to each and every word of your "arguments". Good work. Good effort.

    If you want to think that our nation's universities are indoctrination camps churning out socialist bots, then please, have at it. I'm not really worried it, and I'm not really worried about you being worried about it.
    I should have known you'd lack the integrity to admit you were talking out your ass. The entire purpose of your post was to deflect from the fact that the Liberal Arts are under attack by the left and that the movement to cut back on the teaching of "dead white males" and Western Civilization isn't a significant movement on the left. You even posted some "pox on both their houses" bullshit attempting to blame Conservatives for attacking the Liberal Arts.

    If calling you wordy fucking hack is "losing my shit" so be it. Now go fly speck some more spelling Kunt.
    Fuck off and go bother your wife you weird fuck.
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,746
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    edited December 2018
    So, you don't want econ majors reading Marx and Engels? Is that it?

    You don't see a distinction between a theory on historical materialism and the history of totalitarian bananas committing atrocities? Between some abstract idea of how human beings will organize themselves and their physical needs and a guy who wanted to build an empire based on pretty wild notions on Aryan superiority?

    They're not the same thing. Real Nazism is what we can study in history. There's no other version.

    Debating Marx/Engels in a theoretical context is a much different thing that saying what Stalin did was ok.
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    Chop-chop Kunt. I'm sure somewhere today I misspelled a word. Btw, care to provide an example of where Conservatives are demanding that colleges and universities stop teaching the works of dead white males?

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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,406
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    So, you don't want econ majors reading Marx and Engels? Is that it?

    You don't see a distinction between a theory on historical materialism and the history of totalitarian bananas committing atrocities? Between some abstract idea of how human beings will organize themselves and their physical needs and a guy who wanted to build an empire based on pretty wild notions on Aryan superiority?

    They're not the same thing. Real Nazism is what we can study in history. There's no other version.

    Debating Marx/Engels in a theoretical context is a much different thing that saying what Stalin did was ok.

    Bullshit
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,746
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    So, you don't want econ majors reading Marx and Engels? Is that it?

    You don't see a distinction between a theory on historical materialism and the history of totalitarian bananas committing atrocities? Between some abstract idea of how human beings will organize themselves and their physical needs and a guy who wanted to build an empire based on pretty wild notions on Aryan superiority?

    They're not the same thing. Real Nazism is what we can study in history. There's no other version.

    Debating Marx/Engels in a theoretical context is a much different thing that saying what Stalin did was ok.

    Bullshit
    so the answer to the first question was yes?

    interesting take.
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,746
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    SFGbob said:


    Chop-chop Kunt. I'm sure somewhere today I misspelled a word. Btw, care to provide an example of where Conservatives are demanding that colleges and universities stop teaching the works of dead white males?

    fuck off.
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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 13,931
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    Coug loves himself some communism. You think the coug thinks we should have some professors promoting theoretical Nazism? The hypocrisy runs deep in leftards.
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,746
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    Coug loves himself some communism. You think the coug thinks we should have some professors promoting theoretical Nazism? The hypocrisy runs deep in leftards.

    Coming form an Oregon bitch who said I need reading comprehension help.

    I was pretty clear about this point you fucking illiterate moron.

    Why don't you go fuck off and bother bobsled's wife.
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    Coug loves himself some communism. You think the coug thinks we should have some professors promoting theoretical Nazism? The hypocrisy runs deep in leftards.

    Coming form an Oregon bitch who said I need reading comprehension help.

    I was pretty clear about this point you fucking illiterate moron.

    Why don't you go fuck off and bother bobsled's wife.
    My, my such an emotional little Kunt.

    I guess this means Coug never will be backing up his mouth regarding his claim about conservatives attacking liberal art education
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,406
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    Coug loves himself some communism. You think the coug thinks we should have some professors promoting theoretical Nazism? The hypocrisy runs deep in leftards.

    Hitler rebuilt Germany. Just don't kill Jews

    That's the comp.

    Maybe creep can show us where communism and Socialism didn't murder and enslave millions and we can teach that

    Maybe his homeland of Cuba

    In theory you know

    Ain't a dimes worth of difference

    Capitalism works the best for the most. Teach that
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,746
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    SFGbob said:

    Coug loves himself some communism. You think the coug thinks we should have some professors promoting theoretical Nazism? The hypocrisy runs deep in leftards.

    Coming form an Oregon bitch who said I need reading comprehension help.

    I was pretty clear about this point you fucking illiterate moron.

    Why don't you go fuck off and bother bobsled's wife.
    My, my such an emotional little Kunt.

    I guess this means Coug never will be backing up his mouth regarding his claim about conservatives attacking liberal art education
    fuck off.
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,746
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    Coug loves himself some communism. You think the coug thinks we should have some professors promoting theoretical Nazism? The hypocrisy runs deep in leftards.

    Hitler rebuilt Germany. Just don't kill Jews

    That's the comp.

    Maybe creep can show us where communism and Socialism didn't murder and enslave millions and we can teach that

    Maybe his homeland of Cuba

    In theory you know

    Ain't a dimes worth of difference

    Capitalism works the best for the most. Teach that
    Okie dokie Race. Got it.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,406
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,746
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    Melt




    Down

    Not really. At all. Just a discussion.
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