If you were Bill O'Brien...
I think this is a crappy qb class. Maybe the worst in a decade. I'd take a offensive tackle or Clowney somehow. Does O'Brien want to mortgage his NFL coaching future on a punk like Manziel? I'd take him as the 1st qb, but he just might be the next Marinovich, so that could be risky based on character. Fags like McShay and Kiper like Taj Boyd, Bortles, Bridgewater etc...Are you kidding me? This is the biggest tub of shit for qb's I've ever seen, and the best one, Manziel, is a shrimp and a head case. (Kiper and McGay have to sell subscriptions for ESPN.com so they can't tell the truth. Back to the topic.
If I'm Bill O'brien I take the best lineman available and pass on this joke of a QB class. I'm NOT touching Manziel (his teammates will hate his punk ass) , even though he's tbe best qb in the draft. I'd consider Bridgewater with a high pick, but he has tiny shoulders and might get pounded at the next level, but he's extremely tough. He's the only qb I'd touch with a top 10 pick however. Tough call for Billy Boy.
What do you think More_cock, 12, orange wedge, some of you other football know -it -alls round here?? Let's talk football. What did you guys think of Deshon Hall's performance?
(Just in, Durant 37 and 14 in a losing effort vs Rip City. Both teams are peaking. What a killer rivalry that would be now if we didn't lose our Supes. Imagine a 27-5 sonic team and a 13-3 seahawk team. Without Sark we might just be playing in the rose bowl tomorra. How great would that be?
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I would take Bridgewater. I love Manziel but it's too risky.
Bridgewater is clearly the #1 QB and you cannot win without one -
Not your best effort.
The quarterback class just last year was way worse. EJ Manuel was first off the board and Geno Smith after that. Dreadful.
You always take a quarterback. The NFL is a quarterback league. You can make the playoffs with an Andy Dalton and you can get lucky and win a Super Bowl with Joe Flacco but if you want to be a contender every year you have to have a great quarterback.
Not sure why you think Manziels teammates would hate him. You sound bitter and jealous. Tom Brady is complete prick and just wins and wins.
The Thunder without Russell Westbrook are not peaking and the shitty Blazers just lost two in a row to my Pellies and Races Lebronless Heat. You can PM me with any other questions. I have the NBA dialed in.
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This would have been a good post. I agree with most of your post though. The only QB's I like are Bridgewater and Manziel. If I'm the Texans I am picking one of those two, most likely Bridgewater. You don't pass up a franchise QB because they are hard to find.puppylove_sugarsteel said:Who would you choose at QB with the 1st pick? (If you'd take a QB with a high first rounder)?
I think this is a crappy qb class. Maybe the worst in a decade. I'd take a offensive tackle or Clowney somehow. Does O'Brien want to mortgage his NFL coaching future on a punk like Manziel? I'd take him as the 1st qb, but he just might be the next Marinovich, so that could be risky based on character. Fags like McShay and Kiper like Taj Boyd, Bortles, Bridgewater etc...Are you kidding me? This is the biggest tub of shit for qb's I've ever seen, and the best one, Manziel, is a shrimp and a head case. (Kiper and McGay have to sell subscriptions for ESPN.com so they can't tell the truth. Back to the topic.
If I'm Bill O'brien I take the best lineman available and pass on this joke of a QB class. I'm NOT touching Manziel (his teammates will hate his punk ass) , even though he's tbe best qb in the draft. I'd consider Bridgewater with a high pick, but he has tiny shoulders and might get pounded at the next level, but he's extremely tough. He's the only qb I'd touch with a top 10 pick however. Tough call for Billy Boy.
What do you think More_cock, 12, orange wedge, some of you other football know -it -alls round here?? Let's talk football. What did you guys think of Deshon Hall's performance
(Just in, Durant 37 and 14 in a losing effort vs Rip City. Both teams are peaking. What a killer rivalry that would be now if we didn't lose our Supes. Imagine a 27-5 sonic team and a 13-3 seahawk team. Without Sark we might just be playing in the rose bowl tomorra. How great would that be?
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and u saying this is the worst QB class in maybe a decade is laughable, it's bad but it's not even close to as bad as last years
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I'd take Bridgewater #1 without a problem. Manziel is high risk high reward. Kid could be a superstar or drink himself out of the league. I wouldn't take him in the top 10, but after about #14 I'd be ecstatic to get him.
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Your last paragraph was probably your best post ever.
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You don't draft Manziel to win ... you draft him to sell tickets and hope he wins.dnc said:I'd take Bridgewater #1 without a problem. Manziel is high risk high reward. Kid could be a superstar or drink himself out of the league. I wouldn't take him in the top 10, but after about #14 I'd be ecstatic to get him.
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allpurpleallgold said:
Not your best effort.
The quarterback class just last year was way worse. EJ Manuel was first off the board and Geno Smith after that. Dreadful.
You always take a quarterback. The NFL is a quarterback league. You can make the playoffs with an Andy Dalton and you can get lucky and win a Super Bowl with Joe Flacco but if you want to be a contender every year you have to have a great quarterback.
Not sure why you think Manziels teammates would hate him. You sound bitter and jealous. Tom Brady is complete prick and just wins and wins.
The Thunder without Russell Westbrook are not peaking and the shitty Blazers just lost two in a row to my Pellies and Races Lebronless Heat. You can PM me with any other questions. I have the NBA dialed in.allpurpleallgold said:Not your best effort.
The quarterback class just last year was way worse. EJ Manuel was first off the board and Geno Smith after that. Dreadful.
You always take a quarterback. The NFL is a quarterback league. You can make the playoffs with an Andy Dalton and you can get lucky and win a Super Bowl with Joe Flacco but if you want to be a contender every year you have to have a great quarterback.
Not sure why you think Manziels teammates would hate him. You sound bitter and jealous. Tom Brady is complete prick and just wins and wins.
The Thunder without Russell Westbrook are not peaking and the shitty Blazers just lost two in a row to my Pellies and Races Lebronless Heat. You can PM me with any other questions. I have the NBA dialed in.
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You always take a QB you ignant fuck? Yeah, Rick Mirer and fetters got a good laugh at this. You always take a LT if the qb's suck dumbass -
Drafting anyone to sell tickets is FS. Win and tickets take care of themselves.topdawgnc said:
You don't draft Manziel to win ... you draft him to sell tickets and hope he wins.dnc said:I'd take Bridgewater #1 without a problem. Manziel is high risk high reward. Kid could be a superstar or drink himself out of the league. I wouldn't take him in the top 10, but after about #14 I'd be ecstatic to get him.
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Bridgewater? From a shitty conference, untested and is a top 3 pick? What if Hundley declares, does that change your mind?He_Needs_More_Time said:Your last paragraph was probably your best post ever.
If I'm Texans I take Bridgewater and not think twice. -
PLSS, I'd still take Bridgewater #1.
He's the best QB and best player in the draft.
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Purplegold, I'm still waiting for you to post a topic instead of just responding to mine. I understand the allure but try returning the favor -
two words: Trade Down
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The starting QB's in the Super Bowel last year went to Delaware and Nevada.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Bridgewater? From a shitty conference, untested and is a top 3 pick? What if Hundley declares, does that change your mind?He_Needs_More_Time said:Your last paragraph was probably your best post ever.
If I'm Texans I take Bridgewater and not think twice.
Talent is talent.
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Left tackle is so important that Denver's went down for the season 12 weeks ago.
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both #1 seeds have left tackles who have missed significant time. I'm pretty sure Vollmer also went down for the season, so NE has missed their LT. The significance is starting to go into questionallpurpleallgold said:Left tackle is so important that Denver's went down for the season 12 weeks ago.
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Don't go down this road even if you are obviously trolling PLSS.allpurpleallgold said:Left tackle is so important that Denver's went down for the season 12 weeks ago.
LT is still a very important position and easily the 2nd most important position on offense if not the entire roster.
Big difference in Seattle between having Okung and not having him.
Anyways when dealing with the #1 pick I've always been a believer in best player available. Bridgewater is the best QB available and best player available.
Passing up on a franchise QB can kill you. The Rams for an example have a good roster but don't have a franchise QB, same goes for the Cardinals. If either franchise had a franchise QB they'd probably win the division. -
Someone obviously hasn't watched The Blind Side starring Sandra Bullock.allpurpleallgold said:Left tackle is so important that Denver's went down for the season 12 weeks ago.
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that's one hell of a statement to make, u really think with a QB the rams and cards are better than SF and Seattle? The Rams will be but not yet, and I don't know if the cards would've beenHe_Needs_More_Time said:
Don't go down this road even if you are obviously trolling PLSS.allpurpleallgold said:Left tackle is so important that Denver's went down for the season 12 weeks ago.
LT is still a very important position and easily the 2nd most important position on offense if not the entire roster.
Big difference in Seattle between having Okung and not having him.
Anyways when dealing with the #1 pick I've always been a believer in best player available. Bridgewater is the best QB available and best player available.
Passing up on a franchise QB can kill you. The Rams for an example have a good roster but don't have a franchise QB, same goes for the Cardinals. If either franchise had a franchise QB they'd probably win the division.
Clowney is a 4-3 DE in my opinion so he doesn't fit on their roster. They have 2 good WR's already so no on Watkins, and they have Brown so no on Matthews. Bridgewater will go #1. then the rams will trade down.
I think Bridgewater ends up in Houston
Clowney to whoever the rams trade with
Manziel in CLE
Matthews in ATL
Bortles in JAX
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That big difference amounts to 6-2 in games Okung started and 7-1 in games he didn't play and 24 points per game he started and 28 per game he didn't play. So yeah, huge difference.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Don't go down this road even if you are obviously trolling PLSS.allpurpleallgold said:Left tackle is so important that Denver's went down for the season 12 weeks ago.
LT is still a very important position and easily the 2nd most important position on offense if not the entire roster.
Big difference in Seattle between having Okung and not having him.
Anyways when dealing with the #1 pick I've always been a believer in best player available. Bridgewater is the best QB available and best player available.
Passing up on a franchise QB can kill you. The Rams for an example have a good roster but don't have a franchise QB, same goes for the Cardinals. If either franchise had a franchise QB they'd probably win the division. -
With the quick passing game and spreads the LT is less important these days
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Bet your ass I have. Sandy is in my wheelhouse, cause I'm old and shit.DerekJohnson said:
Someone obviously hasn't watched The Blind Side starring Sandra Bullock.allpurpleallgold said:Left tackle is so important that Denver's went down for the season 12 weeks ago.
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Manziel reminds me of Joe Namath, who was the AFL's wild child when I was a kid. He partied his way to a Hall of Fame career, famously partying every night and screwing gorgeous women at will.
He was the first NFL media mega-star, and I can see bad boy Manziel following in the same role.
But this is a different era, and the controls now in place make a similar path difficult.
Manziel is head above the other QBs in this class and probably for some years. For his skills and his marketability, I would roll the dice on him. He is a heckuva lot of entertainment, on and off the field. -
APAG, you are better than this.
The teams Okung plated against: Carolina, SF X2, Vikings, Saints, Giants, Cardinals and Rams.
Games he missed: Jacksonville, Houston, Indy, Tennessee, Cardinals, Rams, Bucs and Falcons.
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I think LT is an over valued position. The truth is, you need two good tackles, and while I understand protecting the blindside, it's also FS. Pressure on the QB is pressure on the QB. The whole OL needs to all be strong.
The Saints are a disaster at LT and are good, same with the Packers, but they still made the playoffs. The Bengals moved their LT to guard to get their running game going. Joe Thomas and Jake Long have never won anything in their careers despite being two of the best LT's in their career. It's an important position, but if I'm spending huge money, I'm getting a QB, DE/OLB, and shut down CB before a LT.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--left-tackle-in-the-nfl-is-gradually-become-a-less-valued-position.html
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/04/29/examining-pressure-are-left-tackles-overvalued/
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I never knew Sark was posting on this board.RaceBannon said:With the quick passing game and spreads the LT is less important these days
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Dick_B said:
Bet your ass I have. Sandy is in my wheelhouse, cause I'm old and shit.DerekJohnson said:
Someone obviously hasn't watched The Blind Side starring Sandra Bullock.allpurpleallgold said:Left tackle is so important that Denver's went down for the season 12 weeks ago.
Sandra in the Blind Side is boner in the sweatpants material. :x -
Draft Clowney
Take a quarterback or three in the later rounds. -
Bortles is making a strong case.
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So with him they played worse against better competition. Is this your case for second most important position on the team?He_Needs_More_Time said:APAG, you are better than this.
The teams Okung plated against: Carolina, SF X2, Vikings, Saints, Giants, Cardinals and Rams.
Games he missed: Jacksonville, Houston, Indy, Tennessee, Cardinals, Rams, Bucs and Falcons.
4 playoff games in games he played vs 1 playoff game vs teams he sat out.
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