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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,573
    edited November 2018
    Make a better product and people will buy it...
  • RedRocket
    RedRocket Member Posts: 1,527

    Make a better product and people will buy it...

    GM thinks that product is Electric and Autonomous vehicles. I'm sure many on here will support this rationale.

    Unrelated but this company called Rivian unveiled an electric truck that (they claim) will do 0-60 in 3 seconds and tow 11,000 lbs. It's pretty cool but I wouldn't dump 70k to guinea pig it.

    https://electrek.co/2018/11/26/rivian-r1t-all-electric-pickup-specs/
  • Crawfish
    Crawfish Member Posts: 734

    Make a better product and people will buy it...

    Next, you are going to tell me you're ok with laying off coal miners because natural gas is a better product than coal.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    RedRocket said:

    Make a better product and people will buy it...

    GM thinks that product is Electric and Autonomous vehicles. I'm sure many on here will support this rationale.

    Unrelated but this company called Rivian unveiled an electric truck that (they claim) will do 0-60 in 3 seconds and tow 11,000 lbs. It's pretty cool but I wouldn't dump 70k to guinea pig it.

    https://electrek.co/2018/11/26/rivian-r1t-all-electric-pickup-specs/
    $100k for the top model. I personally think this is vaporware. Problem is, a tow vehicle usually needs to go more than 400 miles in a day. And I doubt you can get 400 miles while loaded. Not to mention GVWR issues with battery packs.

    That being said, I'm glad to see companies push the envelope. I just wish they also did this with CNG vehicles.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    edited November 2018



    General Motors announced Monday that it would cease production of the hybrid electric plug-in Volt and its gas-powered sister car the Cruze. The announcement came as part of a larger restructuring by the car company as it seeks to focus production around the bigger vehicles in favor with U.S. consumers.
  • RedRocket
    RedRocket Member Posts: 1,527
    2001400ex said:

    RedRocket said:

    Make a better product and people will buy it...

    GM thinks that product is Electric and Autonomous vehicles. I'm sure many on here will support this rationale.

    Unrelated but this company called Rivian unveiled an electric truck that (they claim) will do 0-60 in 3 seconds and tow 11,000 lbs. It's pretty cool but I wouldn't dump 70k to guinea pig it.

    https://electrek.co/2018/11/26/rivian-r1t-all-electric-pickup-specs/
    $100k for the top model. I personally think this is vaporware. Problem is, a tow vehicle usually needs to go more than 400 miles in a day. And I doubt you can get 400 miles while loaded. Not to mention GVWR issues with battery packs.

    That being said, I'm glad to see companies push the envelope. I just wish they also did this with CNG vehicles.
    All the specs seem inflated but I'm interested to see what happens when it rolls out in 2020. Could be a load of shit but glad to see a company take a stab at an EV that isnt a daily driver type.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    RedRocket said:

    2001400ex said:

    RedRocket said:

    Make a better product and people will buy it...

    GM thinks that product is Electric and Autonomous vehicles. I'm sure many on here will support this rationale.

    Unrelated but this company called Rivian unveiled an electric truck that (they claim) will do 0-60 in 3 seconds and tow 11,000 lbs. It's pretty cool but I wouldn't dump 70k to guinea pig it.

    https://electrek.co/2018/11/26/rivian-r1t-all-electric-pickup-specs/
    $100k for the top model. I personally think this is vaporware. Problem is, a tow vehicle usually needs to go more than 400 miles in a day. And I doubt you can get 400 miles while loaded. Not to mention GVWR issues with battery packs.

    That being said, I'm glad to see companies push the envelope. I just wish they also did this with CNG vehicles.
    All the specs seem inflated but I'm interested to see what happens when it rolls out in 2020. Could be a load of shit but glad to see a company take a stab at an EV that isnt a daily driver type.
    Well eventually we will have batteries that weigh 10% of what they do now. And can run for hours on a 10 minute charge. We need the infrastructure for that day. Tho that technology doesn't appear to be available any time soon.
  • RedRocket
    RedRocket Member Posts: 1,527
    2001400ex said:

    RedRocket said:

    2001400ex said:

    RedRocket said:

    Make a better product and people will buy it...

    GM thinks that product is Electric and Autonomous vehicles. I'm sure many on here will support this rationale.

    Unrelated but this company called Rivian unveiled an electric truck that (they claim) will do 0-60 in 3 seconds and tow 11,000 lbs. It's pretty cool but I wouldn't dump 70k to guinea pig it.

    https://electrek.co/2018/11/26/rivian-r1t-all-electric-pickup-specs/
    $100k for the top model. I personally think this is vaporware. Problem is, a tow vehicle usually needs to go more than 400 miles in a day. And I doubt you can get 400 miles while loaded. Not to mention GVWR issues with battery packs.

    That being said, I'm glad to see companies push the envelope. I just wish they also did this with CNG vehicles.
    All the specs seem inflated but I'm interested to see what happens when it rolls out in 2020. Could be a load of shit but glad to see a company take a stab at an EV that isnt a daily driver type.
    Well eventually we will have batteries that weigh 10% of what they do now. And can run for hours on a 10 minute charge. We need the infrastructure for that day. Tho that technology doesn't appear to be available any time soon.
    It's a long way off before batteries become that efficient. Large scale battery storage would transform the entire energy industry. By the time we get there the grid could be totally different.

    The infrastructure for EV doesn't need to change much to handle most day to day driving. People will just use home chargers. A volt can switch between electric for daily driving and gas for longer trips. The grid, right now, might not be able to handle everyone plugging in at same time but I don't think lack of public charging infrastructure is that limiting.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    Ain’t happening on a volt. They’re now a footnote in history