It's a little more on him than 'he's playing the hand he was dealt', but a lot of those losses are on browshoes. Pete doesn't take the snaps.
I don't think Pete's a choker.
Big games, close games, no matter Pete loses more than he wins. He's been a loser at UW when it counts the most. Not a signature win in almost 5 years (except maybe Stanfurd 2016). Seems like a choker to me. But think what you will creepy. We can't help you.
I always do. Thanks. Didn't say his play calling hasn't cost the DAWGS! a few close games. But his QB shitting himself is part of the number.
He's also had really three chances for a 'signature win' by my count. The first one was forgivable; everybody loses to Alabama. The Auburn loss is a stinger, I agree.
Penn State is a hard one to score. PSU looked like the better team, but Pete made adjustments to keep it close.
His QB. His system. His recruiting. He's the CEO of the program. He's been repeatedly out coached in the bowl games and the loses this season. He has made his own bed, and we have to sleep in it until he changes or leaves.
Petersen leaving UW would be a dark day for that program. Who else is coming?
First adult in the position in eons.
What happens if he runs the table and wins the Rose Bowl? All is forgiven?
I just don't see choker tag on Peterman.
The fallacy of this logic is it is exactly the same that was used to keep nonperforming coaches in their jobs, to the point no one wanted the job when Sarkisian came. Whether Pete runs the table and wins the Rose Bowl, which I believe is highly unlikely, my opinion of him would not change. In fact, I would be more frustrated at his squandering this season's opportunities.
I agree he is the first adult in a long while. My main assertion is he needs to change his approach if he is going to make this program elite. He has had a taste (CPF in 2016) of what is required at that level, but so far I'm not seeing sufficient evidence he will make the transition anytime soon. The Cal loss was a microcosm of what's still wrong with this program.
I can respect that, but I warn you that you will be in a small and lonely group in that case.
It's year 5, but then again, it's year 5. He inherited a bit of a train wreck, and had you? in the playoffs in fairly short order. There is no doubt Washington is in the best shape it's been in since James retired.
I'd deliberate for a very long time before coming to the conclusion that firing Petersen made any sense. But that's me.
Except for emotional comments during particularly frustrating moments in games (and shortly after), I don’t advocate firing Petersen. However, my optimism towards him has waned, mostly due to his game time conduct and decisions. This, coupled with passionless and emotionally indifferent expression from the players, gives me pause about whether he will take the program beyond middling 9-4 and 10-3 type years. Not that I want it, nor am I so predicting, but I won’t be surprised if this 2018 team flatlines and loses the last three games. More than the offense being broken, and more than can be excused due to injuries, the team feels to me like it’s at a crossroads.
-GPA - Minimal arrests/issues -winning overall record - beats Cuog -bowl game every year -highest APR in the conference -AD Leadership mentor -revenues have never been higher
-GPA - Minimal arrests/issues -winning overall record - beats Cuog -bowl game every year -highest APR in the conference -AD Leadership mentor -revenues have never been higher
-GPA - Minimal arrests/issues -winning overall record - beats Cuog -bowl game every year -highest APR in the conference -AD Leadership mentor -revenues have never been higher
Alex, I will take ‘Things that only matter to AD’s’ for $200.
The real story is even worse than the stat because he gets “wins” for games like ASU and UCLA this year, where we let a team back in it instead of blowing them out. The bigger issue I have is that Pete’s teams can’t be expected to come back from even a mild 4th quarter deficit and win. We’re 0-3 in those opportunities this year, and besides Utah last year (which was a shit team we played at home), Pete hasn’t notched a single 4th quarter comeback since football was invented in 2016. Creep is right in that a lot, if not most of that is due to having a QB who doesn’t perform well under pressure and is not an effective big play or fast paced player. Either way, Pete’s record in moments that matter fucking sucks.
I believe @Dennis_DeYoung gets credit for calling Browning a front runner.
Worth noting Pete rarely loses games by more than one score. Unless he's going undefeated every year, they are only going to come from one-score games.
Here is Saban's record in one-score games since 2014. Obviously better than Pete's, but still far lower than Saban's overall winning percentage. Point being, good teams only lose by one score.
Worth noting Pete rarely loses games by more than one score. Unless he's going undefeated every year, they are only going to come from one-score games.
Here is Saban's record in one-score games since 2014. Obviously better than Pete's, but still far lower than Saban's overall winning percentage. Point being, good teams only lose by one score.
2014: 3-2 2015: 1-1 2016: 1-1 2017: 3-0 2018: 0-0
8-4
To add to your point Saban has gone undefeated once. One time. Uno. And only one time was the one loss in the title game. Its hard. Losing to Auburn was not unexpected even though they cratered. Any Husky coach who loses to Oregon will get a load of shit. Its Cal that has everyone verklemt. Win the League and this old Husky will forgive all. Stack up league titles like cord wood, recruit like a motherfucker and win the national games. The formula.
Worth noting Pete rarely loses games by more than one score. Unless he's going undefeated every year, they are only going to come from one-score games.
Here is Saban's record in one-score games since 2014. Obviously better than Pete's, but still far lower than Saban's overall winning percentage. Point being, good teams only lose by one score.
2014: 3-2 2015: 1-1 2016: 1-1 2017: 3-0 2018: 0-0
8-4
To add to your point Saban has gone undefeated once. One time. Uno. And only one time was the one loss in the title game. Its hard. Losing to Auburn was not unexpected even though they cratered. Any Husky coach who loses to Oregon will get a load of shit. Its Cal that has everyone verklemt. Win the League and this old Husky will forgive all. Stack up league titles like cord wood, recruit like a motherfucker and win the national games. The formula.
Still the GOAT. I'm glad Race will outlive me because I would be really sad if he died.
Worth noting Pete rarely loses games by more than one score. Unless he's going undefeated every year, they are only going to come from one-score games.
Here is Saban's record in one-score games since 2014. Obviously better than Pete's, but still far lower than Saban's overall winning percentage. Point being, good teams only lose by one score.
2014: 3-2 2015: 1-1 2016: 1-1 2017: 3-0 2018: 0-0
8-4
To add to your point Saban has gone undefeated once. One time. Uno. And only one time was the one loss in the title game. Its hard. Losing to Auburn was not unexpected even though they cratered. Any Husky coach who loses to Oregon will get a load of shit. Its Cal that has everyone verklemt. Win the League and this old Husky will forgive all. Stack up league titles like cord wood, recruit like a motherfucker and win the national games. The formula.
Still the GOAT. I'm glad Race will outlive me because I would be really sad if he died.
It's a little more on him than 'he's playing the hand he was dealt', but a lot of those losses are on browshoes. Pete doesn't take the snaps.
I don't think Pete's a choker.
Big games, close games, no matter Pete loses more than he wins. He's been a loser at UW when it counts the most. Not a signature win in almost 5 years (except maybe Stanfurd 2016). Seems like a choker to me. But think what you will creepy. We can't help you.
I always do. Thanks. Didn't say his play calling hasn't cost the DAWGS! a few close games. But his QB shitting himself is part of the number.
He's also had really three chances for a 'signature win' by my count. The first one was forgivable; everybody loses to Alabama. The Auburn loss is a stinger, I agree.
Penn State is a hard one to score. PSU looked like the better team, but Pete made adjustments to keep it close.
His QB. His system. His recruiting. He's the CEO of the program. He's been repeatedly out coached in the bowl games and the loses this season. He has made his own bed, and we have to sleep in it until he changes or leaves.
Petersen leaving UW would be a dark day for that program. Who else is coming?
First adult in the position in eons.
What happens if he runs the table and wins the Rose Bowl? All is forgiven?
It's a little more on him than 'he's playing the hand he was dealt', but a lot of those losses are on browshoes. Pete doesn't take the snaps.
I don't think Pete's a choker.
Big games, close games, no matter Pete loses more than he wins. He's been a loser at UW when it counts the most. Not a signature win in almost 5 years (except maybe Stanfurd 2016). Seems like a choker to me. But think what you will creepy. We can't help you.
I always do. Thanks. Didn't say his play calling hasn't cost the DAWGS! a few close games. But his QB shitting himself is part of the number.
He's also had really three chances for a 'signature win' by my count. The first one was forgivable; everybody loses to Alabama. The Auburn loss is a stinger, I agree.
Penn State is a hard one to score. PSU looked like the better team, but Pete made adjustments to keep it close.
His QB. His system. His recruiting. He's the CEO of the program. He's been repeatedly out coached in the bowl games and the loses this season. He has made his own bed, and we have to sleep in it until he changes or leaves.
Petersen leaving UW would be a dark day for that program. Who else is coming?
First adult in the position in eons.
What happens if he runs the table and wins the Rose Bowl? All is forgiven?
Worth noting Pete rarely loses games by more than one score. Unless he's going undefeated every year, they are only going to come from one-score games.
Here is Saban's record in one-score games since 2014. Obviously better than Pete's, but still far lower than Saban's overall winning percentage. Point being, good teams only lose by one score.
2014: 3-2 2015: 1-1 2016: 1-1 2017: 3-0 2018: 0-0
8-4
Good point. Another point to make is that these are very small sample sizes and we shouldn't be that amazed when a coin comes up heads 9 out of 10 flips.
Just a couple examples-
Mark D'Antonio- started career 6-12 in one score games then went 6-1 in 2015 to get to the CFP with a pretty overrated team. Those wins included Michigan botching a punt snap with 10 seconds left and Vernon Adams missing a wide open Byron Marshall in the final minute.
Gus Malzahn- started his head coaching career 12-1 in one score games.
It's a little more on him than 'he's playing the hand he was dealt', but a lot of those losses are on browshoes. Pete doesn't take the snaps.
I don't think Pete's a choker.
Big games, close games, no matter Pete loses more than he wins. He's been a loser at UW when it counts the most. Not a signature win in almost 5 years (except maybe Stanfurd 2016). Seems like a choker to me. But think what you will creepy. We can't help you.
I always do. Thanks. Didn't say his play calling hasn't cost the DAWGS! a few close games. But his QB shitting himself is part of the number.
He's also had really three chances for a 'signature win' by my count. The first one was forgivable; everybody loses to Alabama. The Auburn loss is a stinger, I agree.
Penn State is a hard one to score. PSU looked like the better team, but Pete made adjustments to keep it close.
His QB. His system. His recruiting. He's the CEO of the program. He's been repeatedly out coached in the bowl games and the loses this season. He has made his own bed, and we have to sleep in it until he changes or leaves.
Petersen leaving UW would be a dark day for that program. Who else is coming?
First adult in the position in eons.
What happens if he runs the table and wins the Rose Bowl? All is forgiven?
I just don't see choker tag on Peterman.
The fallacy of this logic is it is exactly the same that was used to keep nonperforming coaches in their jobs, to the point no one wanted the job when Sarkisian came. Whether Pete runs the table and wins the Rose Bowl, which I believe is highly unlikely, my opinion of him would not change. In fact, I would be more frustrated at his squandering this season's opportunities.
I agree he is the first adult in a long while. My main assertion is he needs to change his approach if he is going to make this program elite. He has had a taste (CPF in 2016) of what is required at that level, but so far I'm not seeing sufficient evidence he will make the transition anytime soon. The Cal loss was a microcosm of what's still wrong with this program.
I can respect that, but I warn you that you will be in a small and lonely group in that case.
It's year 5, but then again, it's year 5. He inherited a bit of a train wreck, and had you? in the playoffs in fairly short order. There is no doubt Washington is in the best shape it's been in since James retired.
I'd deliberate for a very long time before coming to the conclusion that firing Petersen made any sense. But that's me.
Except for emotional comments during particularly frustrating moments in games (and shortly after), I don’t advocate firing Petersen. However, my optimism towards him has waned, mostly due to his game time conduct and decisions. This, coupled with passionless and emotionally indifferent expression from the players, gives me pause about whether he will take the program beyond middling 9-4 and 10-3 type years. Not that I want it, nor am I so predicting, but I won’t be surprised if this 2018 team flatlines and loses the last three games. More than the offense being broken, and more than can be excused due to injuries, the team feels to me like it’s at a crossroads.
This is pretty stupid since he made the playoffs in year 3.
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- Minimal arrests/issues
-winning overall record
- beats Cuog
-bowl game every year
-highest APR in the conference
-AD Leadership mentor
-revenues have never been higher
2014: 6-3
2015: 6-3
2016: 10-2
2017: 9-0
2018: 4-0
23-2 since we've had a pulse.
Here is Saban's record in one-score games since 2014. Obviously better than Pete's, but still far lower than Saban's overall winning percentage. Point being, good teams only lose by one score.
2014: 3-2
2015: 1-1
2016: 1-1
2017: 3-0
2018: 0-0
8-4
UW is going to steamroll people the next 2 years.
As opposed to the Romar D-fence.
Just a couple examples-
Mark D'Antonio- started career 6-12 in one score games then went 6-1 in 2015 to get to the CFP with a pretty overrated team. Those wins included Michigan botching a punt snap with 10 seconds left and Vernon Adams missing a wide open Byron Marshall in the final minute.
Gus Malzahn- started his head coaching career 12-1 in one score games.
His last 13? 3-10.