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Anyone read Ron Chernow's recent bio of U.S. Grant yet?

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,782 Founders Club

    Are you sure the tug is the right place to post about a history book? Any book? At all?

    Are you sure the tug is the right place to post about a history book? Any book? At all?

    I want us to raise ourselves from being just a bored of vile filth that Derek created.
    Good luck rowboat. You're a man of honor; but alas you are also a dreamer.

    Two of the biggest morons that fag out this bored
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    Dude won the war and the presidency.

    Winners win.

    He had way more depth than Lee and was far better at big picture strategy than him.
    And he was on the right side of history. That always helps.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,337
    edited November 2018

    Are you sure the tug is the right place to post about a history book? Any book? At all?

    Are you sure the tug is the right place to post about a history book? Any book? At all?

    I want us to raise ourselves from being just a bored of vile filth that Derek created.
    Good luck rowboat. You're a man of honor; but alas you are also a dreamer.

    Two of the biggest morons that fag out this bored
    Fuck off idiot. Clearly under your skin; so much struggle with people who don't agree with you. Such fag.

    Strap into your wheelchair before you hurt yourself.

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,782 Founders Club
    Make me Deener
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,337

    Make me Deener

    Fuck off Bear.
  • Doog_de_Jour
    Doog_de_Jour Member Posts: 8,042 Standard Supporter
    I appreciate any and all attempts to mix things up in the Tug. Politics gets tiresome.

    I haven’t read Chernow’s Grant biography yet but I enjoyed both his Washington and Hamilton books.

    Grant has always been one of my favorite figures in history. People love to say that he wasn’t as good of a general as Lee - that he merely won because of superior numbers he tirelessly threw at the Confederates (Mary Todd Lincoln called him a butcher for all the Union casualties he racked up), but I think he did some impressive work in his field victories in the West that this criticism is unfair. As to his Presidency, I think he inherited a bit of shit show and was (much like our dear Chris Petersen) too loyal to the wrong people.

    Anyone who wants a good TLDR review of Chernow’s book and Grant’s life venture here:

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/10/02/pour-one-out-for-ulysses-s-grant

    Oh, and read Grant’s memoirs if you get a chance, even if it’s an annotated copy. He’s actually an excellent writer, concise yet engaging.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,770 Founders Club

    I appreciate any and all attempts to mix things up in the Tug. Politics gets tiresome.

    I haven’t read Chernow’s Grant biography yet but I enjoyed both his Washington and Hamilton books.

    Grant has always been one of my favorite figures in history. People love to say that he wasn’t as good of a general as Lee - that he merely won because of superior numbers he tirelessly threw at the Confederates (Mary Todd Lincoln called him a butcher for all the Union casualties he racked up), but I think he did some impressive work in his field victories in the West that this criticism is unfair. As to his Presidency, I think he inherited a bit of shit show and was (much like our dear Chris Petersen) too loyal to the wrong people.

    Anyone who wants a good TLDR review of Chernow’s book and Grant’s life venture here:

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/10/02/pour-one-out-for-ulysses-s-grant

    Oh, and read Grant’s memoirs if you get a chance, even if it’s an annotated copy. He’s actually an excellent writer, concise yet engaging.

    It brings me much joy that our only real female poaster now the UO Duck Girl is gone is a true ladie and scholar.

    Grant was brilliant in the West- e.g., Vicksburg. In VA he grasped that it would save more lives in the long run to win once and for all. He was good at Maff n stuff and knew that Lee couldn't replace his losses. Sometimes war is a battle of attrition and the sooner you can end it the better.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited November 2018

    Are you sure the tug is the right place to post about a history book? Any book? At all?

    Are you sure the tug is the right place to post about a history book? Any book? At all?

    I want us to raise ourselves from being just a bored of vile filth that Derek created.
    Good luck rowboat. You're a man of honor; but alas you are also a dreamer.

    Two of the biggest morons that fag out this bored
    Fuck off idiot. Clearly under your skin; so much struggle with people who don't agree with you. Such fag.

    Strap into your wheelchair before you hurt yourself.

    You seem extra angry and triggered lately. Everything Ok?