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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Conservatives were for Obamacare before they were against Obamacare POTD.

    BTW....noc about Harry Reid or what he said in 1993 or his reversal of opinion in 1999.
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    2001400ex said:

    Conservatives were for Obamacare before they were against Obamacare POTD.

    BTW....noc about Harry Reid or what he said in 1993 or his reversal of opinion in 1999.

    So was Reid a racist from 93 until the AFL-CIO told him not to be a racist anymore, or did opposing birth citizenship become racist after 99?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    edited October 2018

    2001400ex said:

    Conservatives were for Obamacare before they were against Obamacare POTD.

    BTW....noc about Harry Reid or what he said in 1993 or his reversal of opinion in 1999.

    So was Reid a racist from 93 until the AFL-CIO told him not to be a racist anymore, or did opposing birth citizenship become racist after 99?
    Were you against pulling out the racist card before you were for pulling out the racist card today?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,099 Founders Club
    Bill Clinton got elected in large part due to his opposition to illegal immigration

    Like Trump

    I knew hondo would rush in to run cover and I knew he would suck at it

    If Reid isn't a racist then neither is Trump. Better let CNN and MSNBC know hondo
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam

    2001400ex said:

    Conservatives were for Obamacare before they were against Obamacare POTD.

    BTW....noc about Harry Reid or what he said in 1993 or his reversal of opinion in 1999.

    So was Reid a racist from 93 until the AFL-CIO told him not to be a racist anymore, or did opposing birth citizenship become racist after 99?
    Of course.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Bill Clinton got elected in large part due to a shitty recession and Ross Perot.

    Crisped.
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    dflea said:

    2001400ex said:

    Conservatives were for Obamacare before they were against Obamacare POTD.

    BTW....noc about Harry Reid or what he said in 1993 or his reversal of opinion in 1999.

    So was Reid a racist from 93 until the AFL-CIO told him not to be a racist anymore, or did opposing birth citizenship become racist after 99?
    Of course.
    Which part?
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam

    dflea said:

    2001400ex said:

    Conservatives were for Obamacare before they were against Obamacare POTD.

    BTW....noc about Harry Reid or what he said in 1993 or his reversal of opinion in 1999.

    So was Reid a racist from 93 until the AFL-CIO told him not to be a racist anymore, or did opposing birth citizenship become racist after 99?
    Of course.
    Which part?
    Exactly.
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    2001400ex said:

    Conservatives were for Obamacare before they were against Obamacare POTD.

    BTW....noc about Harry Reid or what he said in 1993 or his reversal of opinion in 1999.

    So was Reid a racist from 93 until the AFL-CIO told him not to be a racist anymore, or did opposing birth citizenship become racist after 99?
    ANSWER THE QUESTION @2001400ex
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    Conservatives were for Obamacare before they were against Obamacare POTD.

    BTW....noc about Harry Reid or what he said in 1993 or his reversal of opinion in 1999.

    So was Reid a racist from 93 until the AFL-CIO told him not to be a racist anymore, or did opposing birth citizenship become racist after 99?
    ANSWER THE QUESTION @2001400ex
    Ask me a question that isn't stupid.
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Conservatives were for Obamacare before they were against Obamacare POTD.

    BTW....noc about Harry Reid or what he said in 1993 or his reversal of opinion in 1999.

    So was Reid a racist from 93 until the AFL-CIO told him not to be a racist anymore, or did opposing birth citizenship become racist after 99?
    ANSWER THE QUESTION @2001400ex
    Ask me a question that isn't stupid.
    If it's so stupid it should be really easy to answer.

    But you're a pussy, as always.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Conservatives were for Obamacare before they were against Obamacare POTD.

    BTW....noc about Harry Reid or what he said in 1993 or his reversal of opinion in 1999.

    So was Reid a racist from 93 until the AFL-CIO told him not to be a racist anymore, or did opposing birth citizenship become racist after 99?
    ANSWER THE QUESTION @2001400ex
    Ask me a question that isn't stupid.
    If it's so stupid it should be really easy to answer.

    But you're a pussy, as always.
    Harry Reid is a giant pussy and a politician. Who wavers in the wind wherever the money is.

    BTW I never called Trump a racist for his anchor baby policies. So I have zero idea why you are asking me that question.
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Conservatives were for Obamacare before they were against Obamacare POTD.

    BTW....noc about Harry Reid or what he said in 1993 or his reversal of opinion in 1999.

    So was Reid a racist from 93 until the AFL-CIO told him not to be a racist anymore, or did opposing birth citizenship become racist after 99?
    ANSWER THE QUESTION @2001400ex
    Ask me a question that isn't stupid.
    If it's so stupid it should be really easy to answer.

    But you're a pussy, as always.
    Harry Reid is a giant pussy and a politician. Who wavers in the wind wherever the money is.

    BTW I never called Trump a racist for his anchor baby policies. So I have zero idea why you are asking me that question.
    So you're saying this policy isn't racist?
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,849 Standard Supporter
    Can't have people coming to our nation just to drop babies.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited October 2018
    2001400ex said:

    Conservatives were for Obamacare before they were against Obamacare POTD.

    BTW....noc about Harry Reid or what he said in 1993 or his reversal of opinion in 1999.

    Hondo with another lie. The Heritage Foundation put out an article supporting insurance exchanges. That was it. Most conservatives didn't even support that and it went nowhere. Hondo is steeped in leftwing talking points.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Conservatives were for Obamacare before they were against Obamacare POTD.

    BTW....noc about Harry Reid or what he said in 1993 or his reversal of opinion in 1999.

    So was Reid a racist from 93 until the AFL-CIO told him not to be a racist anymore, or did opposing birth citizenship become racist after 99?
    ANSWER THE QUESTION @2001400ex
    Ask me a question that isn't stupid.
    What a fucking Kunt.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Conservatives were for Obamacare before they were against Obamacare POTD.

    BTW....noc about Harry Reid or what he said in 1993 or his reversal of opinion in 1999.

    So was Reid a racist from 93 until the AFL-CIO told him not to be a racist anymore, or did opposing birth citizenship become racist after 99?
    ANSWER THE QUESTION @2001400ex
    Ask me a question that isn't stupid.
    If it's so stupid it should be really easy to answer.

    But you're a pussy, as always.
    Harry Reid is a giant pussy and a politician. Who wavers in the wind wherever the money is.

    BTW I never called Trump a racist for his anchor baby policies. So I have zero idea why you are asking me that question.
    So you're saying this policy isn't racist?
    Trump spreading lies and fear about immigrants is racist shit. The policy in and of itself doesn't comply with the 14th amendment and subsequent supreme count cases.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,099 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Conservatives were for Obamacare before they were against Obamacare POTD.

    BTW....noc about Harry Reid or what he said in 1993 or his reversal of opinion in 1999.

    So was Reid a racist from 93 until the AFL-CIO told him not to be a racist anymore, or did opposing birth citizenship become racist after 99?
    ANSWER THE QUESTION @2001400ex
    Ask me a question that isn't stupid.
    If it's so stupid it should be really easy to answer.

    But you're a pussy, as always.
    Harry Reid is a giant pussy and a politician. Who wavers in the wind wherever the money is.

    BTW I never called Trump a racist for his anchor baby policies. So I have zero idea why you are asking me that question.
    So you're saying this policy isn't racist?
    Trump spreading lies and fear about immigrants is racist shit. The policy in and of itself doesn't comply with the 14th amendment and subsequent supreme count cases.
    Wrong on all counts
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Conservatives were for Obamacare before they were against Obamacare POTD.

    BTW....noc about Harry Reid or what he said in 1993 or his reversal of opinion in 1999.

    So was Reid a racist from 93 until the AFL-CIO told him not to be a racist anymore, or did opposing birth citizenship become racist after 99?
    ANSWER THE QUESTION @2001400ex
    Ask me a question that isn't stupid.
    If it's so stupid it should be really easy to answer.

    But you're a pussy, as always.
    Harry Reid is a giant pussy and a politician. Who wavers in the wind wherever the money is.

    BTW I never called Trump a racist for his anchor baby policies. So I have zero idea why you are asking me that question.
    So you're saying this policy isn't racist?
    Trump spreading lies and fear about immigrants is racist shit. The policy in and of itself doesn't comply with the 14th amendment and subsequent supreme count cases.
    That's actually open for interpretation and I for one am happy that Trump is pushing the issue. The 14th wasn't designed to extend citizenship on children born to people in this country illegally.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Conservatives were for Obamacare before they were against Obamacare POTD.

    BTW....noc about Harry Reid or what he said in 1993 or his reversal of opinion in 1999.

    So was Reid a racist from 93 until the AFL-CIO told him not to be a racist anymore, or did opposing birth citizenship become racist after 99?
    ANSWER THE QUESTION @2001400ex
    Ask me a question that isn't stupid.
    If it's so stupid it should be really easy to answer.

    But you're a pussy, as always.
    Harry Reid is a giant pussy and a politician. Who wavers in the wind wherever the money is.

    BTW I never called Trump a racist for his anchor baby policies. So I have zero idea why you are asking me that question.
    So you're saying this policy isn't racist?
    Trump spreading lies and fear about immigrants is racist shit. The policy in and of itself doesn't comply with the 14th amendment and subsequent supreme count cases.
    Wrong on all counts
    Oh really. Care to explain how? Go point by point. Links would be great.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,099 Founders Club
    Why? You'll move the goal posts and tell more lies

    Your an ignorant piece of shit and happy to be so.

    Do your own research and stop replying on talking points
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Conservatives were for Obamacare before they were against Obamacare POTD.

    BTW....noc about Harry Reid or what he said in 1993 or his reversal of opinion in 1999.

    So was Reid a racist from 93 until the AFL-CIO told him not to be a racist anymore, or did opposing birth citizenship become racist after 99?
    ANSWER THE QUESTION @2001400ex
    Ask me a question that isn't stupid.
    If it's so stupid it should be really easy to answer.

    But you're a pussy, as always.
    Harry Reid is a giant pussy and a politician. Who wavers in the wind wherever the money is.

    BTW I never called Trump a racist for his anchor baby policies. So I have zero idea why you are asking me that question.
    So you're saying this policy isn't racist?
    Trump spreading lies and fear about immigrants is racist shit. The policy in and of itself doesn't comply with the 14th amendment and subsequent supreme count cases.
    I think it complies with the 14th amendment fine, I agree it doesn't comply with precedent.

    My biggest issue with it is he wants to do it by executive order. The executive branch has gotten way too much power over the past few administrations. I'm not for accelerating that in any way shape or form. So I oppose this policy on procedural grounds. But I'd support it if it went through Congress.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,117 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Conservatives were for Obamacare before they were against Obamacare POTD.

    BTW....noc about Harry Reid or what he said in 1993 or his reversal of opinion in 1999.

    So was Reid a racist from 93 until the AFL-CIO told him not to be a racist anymore, or did opposing birth citizenship become racist after 99?
    ANSWER THE QUESTION @2001400ex
    Ask me a question that isn't stupid.
    If it's so stupid it should be really easy to answer.

    But you're a pussy, as always.
    Harry Reid is a giant pussy and a politician. Who wavers in the wind wherever the money is.

    BTW I never called Trump a racist for his anchor baby policies. So I have zero idea why you are asking me that question.
    So you're saying this policy isn't racist?
    Trump spreading lies and fear about immigrants is racist shit. The policy in and of itself doesn't comply with the 14th amendment and subsequent supreme count cases.
    That's actually open for interpretation and I for one am happy that Trump is pushing the issue. The 14th wasn't designed to extend citizenship on children born to people in this country illegally.
    This is a negotiating tactic. Trump asks for the moon and then settles back to what he wanted in the first place - which is to have the immigration laws currently on the books enforced.

    It's really not that difficult to understand but the Dems want to wet their pants over it and they'll get played again and Trump will declaring more winning.

  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    edited October 2018
    I know you were all waiting for this:

    I oppose this, because this should not be decided by executive order. If Congress wants to take it up (lolz), great. But something significant as citizenship qualification should not be dependent upon the whims of a sitting president.

    edit: what @HillsboroDuck said
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Conservatives were for Obamacare before they were against Obamacare POTD.

    BTW....noc about Harry Reid or what he said in 1993 or his reversal of opinion in 1999.

    So was Reid a racist from 93 until the AFL-CIO told him not to be a racist anymore, or did opposing birth citizenship become racist after 99?
    ANSWER THE QUESTION @2001400ex
    Ask me a question that isn't stupid.
    If it's so stupid it should be really easy to answer.

    But you're a pussy, as always.
    Harry Reid is a giant pussy and a politician. Who wavers in the wind wherever the money is.

    BTW I never called Trump a racist for his anchor baby policies. So I have zero idea why you are asking me that question.
    So you're saying this policy isn't racist?
    Trump spreading lies and fear about immigrants is racist shit. The policy in and of itself doesn't comply with the 14th amendment and subsequent supreme count cases.
    I think it complies with the 14th amendment fine, I agree it doesn't comply with precedent.

    My biggest issue with it is he wants to do it by executive order. The executive branch has gotten way too much power over the past few administrations. I'm not for accelerating that in any way shape or form. So I oppose this policy on procedural grounds. But I'd support it if it went through Congress.
    The argument is that it wasn't until the 1960s that this birth right citizenship became accepted Federal policy and that the change came not by legislation or established law but as a function and policy of the Federal bureaucracy. The President is in charge of the Federal bureaucracy, if it could be established by the the FB then it can be changed by executive order.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    I know you were all waiting for this:

    I oppose this, because this should not be decided by executive order. If Congress wants to take it up (lolz), great. But something significant as citizenship qualification should not be dependent upon the whims of a sitting president.

    edit: what @HillsboroDuck said

    But it was established by the whims of the Federal bureaucracy
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Conservatives were for Obamacare before they were against Obamacare POTD.

    BTW....noc about Harry Reid or what he said in 1993 or his reversal of opinion in 1999.

    So was Reid a racist from 93 until the AFL-CIO told him not to be a racist anymore, or did opposing birth citizenship become racist after 99?
    ANSWER THE QUESTION @2001400ex
    Ask me a question that isn't stupid.
    If it's so stupid it should be really easy to answer.

    But you're a pussy, as always.
    Harry Reid is a giant pussy and a politician. Who wavers in the wind wherever the money is.

    BTW I never called Trump a racist for his anchor baby policies. So I have zero idea why you are asking me that question.
    So you're saying this policy isn't racist?
    Trump spreading lies and fear about immigrants is racist shit. The policy in and of itself doesn't comply with the 14th amendment and subsequent supreme count cases.
    I think it complies with the 14th amendment fine, I agree it doesn't comply with precedent.

    My biggest issue with it is he wants to do it by executive order. The executive branch has gotten way too much power over the past few administrations. I'm not for accelerating that in any way shape or form. So I oppose this policy on procedural grounds. But I'd support it if it went through Congress.
    The argument is that it wasn't until the 1960s that this birth right citizenship became accepted Federal policy and that the change came not by legislation or established law but as a function and policy of the Federal bureaucracy. The President is in charge of the Federal bureaucracy, if it could be established by the the FB then it can be changed by executive order.
    Anytime someone opens their statement with "the argument is that" they are parroting something they don't really believe it themselves. If you believed it you'd just leave those first four words out.

    We get it, you want this to go through so you'll find an argument for it. Deep down you know this is the wrong way to do it.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Conservatives were for Obamacare before they were against Obamacare POTD.

    BTW....noc about Harry Reid or what he said in 1993 or his reversal of opinion in 1999.

    So was Reid a racist from 93 until the AFL-CIO told him not to be a racist anymore, or did opposing birth citizenship become racist after 99?
    ANSWER THE QUESTION @2001400ex
    Ask me a question that isn't stupid.
    If it's so stupid it should be really easy to answer.

    But you're a pussy, as always.
    Harry Reid is a giant pussy and a politician. Who wavers in the wind wherever the money is.

    BTW I never called Trump a racist for his anchor baby policies. So I have zero idea why you are asking me that question.
    So you're saying this policy isn't racist?
    Trump spreading lies and fear about immigrants is racist shit. The policy in and of itself doesn't comply with the 14th amendment and subsequent supreme count cases.
    I think it complies with the 14th amendment fine, I agree it doesn't comply with precedent.

    My biggest issue with it is he wants to do it by executive order. The executive branch has gotten way too much power over the past few administrations. I'm not for accelerating that in any way shape or form. So I oppose this policy on procedural grounds. But I'd support it if it went through Congress.
    Supreme Court decisions establish precedent and are interpretations of the Constitution. You can't silo the 14th amendment without looking at supreme Court cases.

    That being said. There is not clear precedent on two illegal immigrant parents having a baby on US soil. The precedent was Chinese parents here legally. So this will have to go to the supreme Court and most legal experts think it won't pass the supreme Court. Some think it will. Either way that is years down the road.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Conservatives were for Obamacare before they were against Obamacare POTD.

    BTW....noc about Harry Reid or what he said in 1993 or his reversal of opinion in 1999.

    So was Reid a racist from 93 until the AFL-CIO told him not to be a racist anymore, or did opposing birth citizenship become racist after 99?
    ANSWER THE QUESTION @2001400ex
    Ask me a question that isn't stupid.
    If it's so stupid it should be really easy to answer.

    But you're a pussy, as always.
    Harry Reid is a giant pussy and a politician. Who wavers in the wind wherever the money is.

    BTW I never called Trump a racist for his anchor baby policies. So I have zero idea why you are asking me that question.
    So you're saying this policy isn't racist?
    Trump spreading lies and fear about immigrants is racist shit. The policy in and of itself doesn't comply with the 14th amendment and subsequent supreme count cases.
    I think it complies with the 14th amendment fine, I agree it doesn't comply with precedent.

    My biggest issue with it is he wants to do it by executive order. The executive branch has gotten way too much power over the past few administrations. I'm not for accelerating that in any way shape or form. So I oppose this policy on procedural grounds. But I'd support it if it went through Congress.
    The argument is that it wasn't until the 1960s that this birth right citizenship became accepted Federal policy and that the change came not by legislation or established law but as a function and policy of the Federal bureaucracy. The President is in charge of the Federal bureaucracy, if it could be established by the the FB then it can be changed by executive order.
    Anytime someone opens their statement with "the argument is that" they are parroting something they don't really believe it themselves. If you believed it you'd just leave those first four words out.

    We get it, you want this to go through so you'll find an argument for it. Deep down you know this is the wrong way to do it.
    Actually, I do believe that argument. I didn't come up with it, I'm just restating what I first heard others establish. I'm trying not to take attribution for an argument I didn't come up with.