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My only complaint with the defense (outside of the absentee pass rush cause recruiting) is the inability to adjust schemes when needed. The scheme works fantastically most of the game - special even. In the situations where you have to get an immediate stop you have to quit bending and sell out for a stop right now. This is in no way the players fault it's 100% on the defensive coaches for not adjusting.
There's no reason why this scheme can't be kept in place but with the ability to adjust when you need to get the ball back with the game on the line. This needs to happen immediately. -
As iDawg and is used to point out, losers always have one area that fails but think the other areas are good so if we get a new OC it will be fine. Then the defense sucksHillsboroDuck said:
If the offense can't score more than 6 points blame it on the defense.RaceBannon said:Cal defense got turnovers that won the game
UW didn't
And doesn't this year
NYBE
This is a 6-3 team that allowed Auburn to run it up their ass to win. Gave up the OT TD to Oregon and allowed 30 points to a team that has barely got a first down since
They let Cal run all over the field playing keep away while the defense sat back and let them
Turnovers lead to points like the winning team did. The losing team is talking about stats
The entire team is fucked up including the defense -
Who?RaceBannon said:
As iDawg and is used to point out, losers always have one area that fails but think the other areas are good so if we get a new OC it will be fine. Then the defense sucksHillsboroDuck said:
If the offense can't score more than 6 points blame it on the defense.RaceBannon said:Cal defense got turnovers that won the game
UW didn't
And doesn't this year
NYBE
This is a 6-3 team that allowed Auburn to run it up their ass to win. Gave up the OT TD to Oregon and allowed 30 points to a team that has barely got a first down since
They let Cal run all over the field playing keep away while the defense sat back and let them
Turnovers lead to points like the winning team did. The losing team is talking about stats
The entire team is fucked up including the defense -
hurtfulHillsboroDuck said:
BearsWiinFS POTDwhuggy said:HillsboroDuck said:
And yet they gave up six points.BeerThirty said:I feel like some members of this D are just going through the motions, thinking about what they are going to buy with that first NFL check
The defense isn't as aggressive as I'd prefer either but they're still damn good.
Defense isn't the issue.
It's a good defense but nothing special. Yeah they don't give up a lot of points but they also don't get off the field quickly to give the offense more opportunities. An god knows this offense needs as many opportunities as possible. Also my measure of an excellent defense is stepping up when the game matters. Couldn't get off the field at the end of the half against USC. Couldn't stop ASU with the game on the line at the end. Couldn't stop Cal to get the ball back. Bend and break reduces points against, what it doesn't do is optimize offensive opportunity. -
It felt wrong typing it but I had to poast it anyway. Good for my brand.BearsWiin said:
hurtfulHillsboroDuck said:
BearsWiinFS POTDwhuggy said:HillsboroDuck said:
And yet they gave up six points.BeerThirty said:I feel like some members of this D are just going through the motions, thinking about what they are going to buy with that first NFL check
The defense isn't as aggressive as I'd prefer either but they're still damn good.
Defense isn't the issue.
It's a good defense but nothing special. Yeah they don't give up a lot of points but they also don't get off the field quickly to give the offense more opportunities. An god knows this offense needs as many opportunities as possible. Also my measure of an excellent defense is stepping up when the game matters. Couldn't get off the field at the end of the half against USC. Couldn't stop ASU with the game on the line at the end. Couldn't stop Cal to get the ball back. Bend and break reduces points against, what it doesn't do is optimize offensive opportunity. -
Race is spot on here
The defense does a lot right ...
But for as much as people shit on Browning for his issues (and fairly so), the defense has shit the bed in key spots more than many would care to admit -
HillsboroDuck said:
My only complaint with the defense (outside of the absentee pass rush cause recruiting) is the inability to adjust schemes when needed. The scheme works fantastically most of the game - special even. In the situations where you have to get an immediate stop you have to quit bending and sell out for a stop right now. This is in no way the players fault it's 100% on the defensive coaches for not adjusting.
There's no reason why this scheme can't be kept in place but with the ability to adjust when you need to get the ball back with the game on the line. This needs to happen immediately.
Uh, quality teams have a connection on both sides of the ball. We have an offense that is weak and needs as many opportunities to score as the defense can give them. And you say the defensive scheme that we run works fantastically well yet is exactly the wrong scheme given the anemic offense. Our defense should be busting balls to get the ball back to the offense yet we are content to play rubberband and limit our already limited offense. Man I don't get your thinking at all on this one. -
The defense's job is to keep points off the bored.whuggy said:HillsboroDuck said:My only complaint with the defense (outside of the absentee pass rush cause recruiting) is the inability to adjust schemes when needed. The scheme works fantastically most of the game - special even. In the situations where you have to get an immediate stop you have to quit bending and sell out for a stop right now. This is in no way the players fault it's 100% on the defensive coaches for not adjusting.
There's no reason why this scheme can't be kept in place but with the ability to adjust when you need to get the ball back with the game on the line. This needs to happen immediately.
Uh, quality teams have a connection on both sides of the ball. We have an offense that is weak and needs as many opportunities to score as the defense can give them. And you say the defensive scheme that we run works fantastically well yet is exactly the wrong scheme given the anemic offense. Our defense should be busting balls to get the ball back to the offense yet we are content to play rubberband and limit our already limited offense. Man I don't get your thinking at all on this one.
The offenses job is to score points.
It's hard. -
And how is that working so far?HillsboroDuck said:
The defense's job is to keep points off the bored.whuggy said:HillsboroDuck said:My only complaint with the defense (outside of the absentee pass rush cause recruiting) is the inability to adjust schemes when needed. The scheme works fantastically most of the game - special even. In the situations where you have to get an immediate stop you have to quit bending and sell out for a stop right now. This is in no way the players fault it's 100% on the defensive coaches for not adjusting.
There's no reason why this scheme can't be kept in place but with the ability to adjust when you need to get the ball back with the game on the line. This needs to happen immediately.
Uh, quality teams have a connection on both sides of the ball. We have an offense that is weak and needs as many opportunities to score as the defense can give them. And you say the defensive scheme that we run works fantastically well yet is exactly the wrong scheme given the anemic offense. Our defense should be busting balls to get the ball back to the offense yet we are content to play rubberband and limit our already limited offense. Man I don't get your thinking at all on this one.
The offenses job is to score points.
It's hard. -
Kawasaki used to make good half time adjustments, problem is jimmy still needs more timeHillsboroDuck said:My only complaint with the defense (outside of the absentee pass rush cause recruiting) is the inability to adjust schemes when needed. The scheme works fantastically most of the game - special even. In the situations where you have to get an immediate stop you have to quit bending and sell out for a stop right now. This is in no way the players fault it's 100% on the defensive coaches for not adjusting.
There's no reason why this scheme can't be kept in place but with the ability to adjust when you need to get the ball back with the game on the line. This needs to happen immediately. -
6 and 3whuggy said:
And how is that working so far?HillsboroDuck said:
The defense's job is to keep points off the bored.whuggy said:HillsboroDuck said:My only complaint with the defense (outside of the absentee pass rush cause recruiting) is the inability to adjust schemes when needed. The scheme works fantastically most of the game - special even. In the situations where you have to get an immediate stop you have to quit bending and sell out for a stop right now. This is in no way the players fault it's 100% on the defensive coaches for not adjusting.
There's no reason why this scheme can't be kept in place but with the ability to adjust when you need to get the ball back with the game on the line. This needs to happen immediately.
Uh, quality teams have a connection on both sides of the ball. We have an offense that is weak and needs as many opportunities to score as the defense can give them. And you say the defensive scheme that we run works fantastically well yet is exactly the wrong scheme given the anemic offense. Our defense should be busting balls to get the ball back to the offense yet we are content to play rubberband and limit our already limited offense. Man I don't get your thinking at all on this one.
The offenses job is to score points.
It's hard. -
Halftime adjustments aren't the problem. Late fourth quarter adjustments are the problem (Cal, ASU last year, arguably overtime at Oregon).WeakarmCobra said:
Kawasaki used to make good half time adjustments, problem is jimmy still needs more timeHillsboroDuck said:My only complaint with the defense (outside of the absentee pass rush cause recruiting) is the inability to adjust schemes when needed. The scheme works fantastically most of the game - special even. In the situations where you have to get an immediate stop you have to quit bending and sell out for a stop right now. This is in no way the players fault it's 100% on the defensive coaches for not adjusting.
There's no reason why this scheme can't be kept in place but with the ability to adjust when you need to get the ball back with the game on the line. This needs to happen immediately. -
The offense is failing.whuggy said:
And how is that working so far?HillsboroDuck said:
The defense's job is to keep points off the bored.whuggy said:HillsboroDuck said:My only complaint with the defense (outside of the absentee pass rush cause recruiting) is the inability to adjust schemes when needed. The scheme works fantastically most of the game - special even. In the situations where you have to get an immediate stop you have to quit bending and sell out for a stop right now. This is in no way the players fault it's 100% on the defensive coaches for not adjusting.
There's no reason why this scheme can't be kept in place but with the ability to adjust when you need to get the ball back with the game on the line. This needs to happen immediately.
Uh, quality teams have a connection on both sides of the ball. We have an offense that is weak and needs as many opportunities to score as the defense can give them. And you say the defensive scheme that we run works fantastically well yet is exactly the wrong scheme given the anemic offense. Our defense should be busting balls to get the ball back to the offense yet we are content to play rubberband and limit our already limited offense. Man I don't get your thinking at all on this one.
The offenses job is to score points.
It's hard. -
Let me put it this way - the 84 defense won a game when the offense had 3 first downs
That's a great defense.
We don't have one. We have a scheme
Intellectual football on both sides of the ball makes for a soft fucking losing shit team -
I'm not calling this the 84 defense.RaceBannon said:Let me put it this way - the 84 defense won a game when the offense had 3 first downs
That's a great defense.
We don't have one. We have a scheme
Intellectual football on both sides of the ball makes for a soft fucking losing shit team
It's plenty good enough to be 8-1, at least though.
The offense is the issue. -
Do you think the game may have changed since 1984?RaceBannon said:Let me put it this way - the 84 defense won a game when the offense had 3 first downs
That's a great defense.
We don't have one. We have a scheme
Intellectual football on both sides of the ball makes for a soft fucking losing shit team -
Yes and no. The team that wins in the trenches won then, and still wins now. You can’t survive having a shitty QB these days though.FremontTroll said:
Do you think the game may have changed since 1984?RaceBannon said:Let me put it this way - the 84 defense won a game when the offense had 3 first downs
That's a great defense.
We don't have one. We have a scheme
Intellectual football on both sides of the ball makes for a soft fucking losing shit team -
Right, and you're not winning any games only getting 3 first down.RoadDawg55 said:
Yes and no. The team that wins in the trenches won then, and still wins now. You can’t survive having a shitty QB these days though.FremontTroll said:
Do you think the game may have changed since 1984?RaceBannon said:Let me put it this way - the 84 defense won a game when the offense had 3 first downs
That's a great defense.
We don't have one. We have a scheme
Intellectual football on both sides of the ball makes for a soft fucking losing shit team
It's a completely different era with the rules, greater understanding and development of the passing game, tempo, spacing, etc.
Nobody's winning that kind of game these days.
Great as it was the 84 defense also gave up more in regulation in a game than the 18 defense has. People forget that. Thankfully the offense showed that game against Cuog. -
Do you have a point?FremontTroll said:
Do you think the game may have changed since 1984?RaceBannon said:Let me put it this way - the 84 defense won a game when the offense had 3 first downs
That's a great defense.
We don't have one. We have a scheme
Intellectual football on both sides of the ball makes for a soft fucking losing shit team -
Good enough for some apparently.RaceBannon said:
6 and 3whuggy said:
And how is that working so far?HillsboroDuck said:
The defense's job is to keep points off the bored.whuggy said:HillsboroDuck said:My only complaint with the defense (outside of the absentee pass rush cause recruiting) is the inability to adjust schemes when needed. The scheme works fantastically most of the game - special even. In the situations where you have to get an immediate stop you have to quit bending and sell out for a stop right now. This is in no way the players fault it's 100% on the defensive coaches for not adjusting.
There's no reason why this scheme can't be kept in place but with the ability to adjust when you need to get the ball back with the game on the line. This needs to happen immediately.
Uh, quality teams have a connection on both sides of the ball. We have an offense that is weak and needs as many opportunities to score as the defense can give them. And you say the defensive scheme that we run works fantastically well yet is exactly the wrong scheme given the anemic offense. Our defense should be busting balls to get the ball back to the offense yet we are content to play rubberband and limit our already limited offense. Man I don't get your thinking at all on this one.
The offenses job is to score points.
It's hard. -
You can't read.whuggy said:
Good enough for some apparently.RaceBannon said:
6 and 3whuggy said:
And how is that working so far?HillsboroDuck said:
The defense's job is to keep points off the bored.whuggy said:HillsboroDuck said:My only complaint with the defense (outside of the absentee pass rush cause recruiting) is the inability to adjust schemes when needed. The scheme works fantastically most of the game - special even. In the situations where you have to get an immediate stop you have to quit bending and sell out for a stop right now. This is in no way the players fault it's 100% on the defensive coaches for not adjusting.
There's no reason why this scheme can't be kept in place but with the ability to adjust when you need to get the ball back with the game on the line. This needs to happen immediately.
Uh, quality teams have a connection on both sides of the ball. We have an offense that is weak and needs as many opportunities to score as the defense can give them. And you say the defensive scheme that we run works fantastically well yet is exactly the wrong scheme given the anemic offense. Our defense should be busting balls to get the ball back to the offense yet we are content to play rubberband and limit our already limited offense. Man I don't get your thinking at all on this one.
The offenses job is to score points.
It's hard. -
Try thinking. It's hard I know.HillsboroDuck said:
You can't read.whuggy said:
Good enough for some apparently.RaceBannon said:
6 and 3whuggy said:
And how is that working so far?HillsboroDuck said:
The defense's job is to keep points off the bored.whuggy said:HillsboroDuck said:My only complaint with the defense (outside of the absentee pass rush cause recruiting) is the inability to adjust schemes when needed. The scheme works fantastically most of the game - special even. In the situations where you have to get an immediate stop you have to quit bending and sell out for a stop right now. This is in no way the players fault it's 100% on the defensive coaches for not adjusting.
There's no reason why this scheme can't be kept in place but with the ability to adjust when you need to get the ball back with the game on the line. This needs to happen immediately.
Uh, quality teams have a connection on both sides of the ball. We have an offense that is weak and needs as many opportunities to score as the defense can give them. And you say the defensive scheme that we run works fantastically well yet is exactly the wrong scheme given the anemic offense. Our defense should be busting balls to get the ball back to the offense yet we are content to play rubberband and limit our already limited offense. Man I don't get your thinking at all on this one.
The offenses job is to score points.
It's hard. -
Fantastic insight. Shit where should I send the $10.99?HillsboroDuck said:
The offense is failing.whuggy said:
And how is that working so far?HillsboroDuck said:
The defense's job is to keep points off the bored.whuggy said:HillsboroDuck said:My only complaint with the defense (outside of the absentee pass rush cause recruiting) is the inability to adjust schemes when needed. The scheme works fantastically most of the game - special even. In the situations where you have to get an immediate stop you have to quit bending and sell out for a stop right now. This is in no way the players fault it's 100% on the defensive coaches for not adjusting.
There's no reason why this scheme can't be kept in place but with the ability to adjust when you need to get the ball back with the game on the line. This needs to happen immediately.
Uh, quality teams have a connection on both sides of the ball. We have an offense that is weak and needs as many opportunities to score as the defense can give them. And you say the defensive scheme that we run works fantastically well yet is exactly the wrong scheme given the anemic offense. Our defense should be busting balls to get the ball back to the offense yet we are content to play rubberband and limit our already limited offense. Man I don't get your thinking at all on this one.
The offenses job is to score points.
It's hard. -
Sometimes the obvious answer is the right answer.whuggy said:
Fantastic insight. Shit where should I send the $10.99?HillsboroDuck said:
The offense is failing.whuggy said:
And how is that working so far?HillsboroDuck said:
The defense's job is to keep points off the bored.whuggy said:HillsboroDuck said:My only complaint with the defense (outside of the absentee pass rush cause recruiting) is the inability to adjust schemes when needed. The scheme works fantastically most of the game - special even. In the situations where you have to get an immediate stop you have to quit bending and sell out for a stop right now. This is in no way the players fault it's 100% on the defensive coaches for not adjusting.
There's no reason why this scheme can't be kept in place but with the ability to adjust when you need to get the ball back with the game on the line. This needs to happen immediately.
Uh, quality teams have a connection on both sides of the ball. We have an offense that is weak and needs as many opportunities to score as the defense can give them. And you say the defensive scheme that we run works fantastically well yet is exactly the wrong scheme given the anemic offense. Our defense should be busting balls to get the ball back to the offense yet we are content to play rubberband and limit our already limited offense. Man I don't get your thinking at all on this one.
The offenses job is to score points.
It's hard.
Usually in fact.
Occam's Razor and shit. -
Deep.HillsboroDuck said:
Sometimes the obvious answer is the right answer.whuggy said:
Fantastic insight. Shit where should I send the $10.99?HillsboroDuck said:
The offense is failing.whuggy said:
And how is that working so far?HillsboroDuck said:
The defense's job is to keep points off the bored.whuggy said:HillsboroDuck said:My only complaint with the defense (outside of the absentee pass rush cause recruiting) is the inability to adjust schemes when needed. The scheme works fantastically most of the game - special even. In the situations where you have to get an immediate stop you have to quit bending and sell out for a stop right now. This is in no way the players fault it's 100% on the defensive coaches for not adjusting.
There's no reason why this scheme can't be kept in place but with the ability to adjust when you need to get the ball back with the game on the line. This needs to happen immediately.
Uh, quality teams have a connection on both sides of the ball. We have an offense that is weak and needs as many opportunities to score as the defense can give them. And you say the defensive scheme that we run works fantastically well yet is exactly the wrong scheme given the anemic offense. Our defense should be busting balls to get the ball back to the offense yet we are content to play rubberband and limit our already limited offense. Man I don't get your thinking at all on this one.
The offenses job is to score points.
It's hard.
Usually in fact.
Occam's Razor and shit. -
RaceBannon said:FremontTroll said:
Do you think the game may have changed since 1984?RaceBannon said:Let me put it this way - the 84 defense won a game when the offense had 3 first downs
That's a great defense.
We don't have one. We have a scheme
Intellectual football on both sides of the ball makes for a soft fucking losing shit team
No shit the game has changed but a dominant d leading to W’s while making up for a shitty O hasn’t. LOB of the past says 👋FremontTroll said:
Do you think the game may have changed since 1984?RaceBannon said:Let me put it this way - the 84 defense won a game when the offense had 3 first downs
That's a great defense.
We don't have one. We have a scheme
Intellectual football on both sides of the ball makes for a soft fucking losing shit team -
So...it's shaved oh god oh god?HillsboroDuck said:
Sometimes the obvious answer is the right answer.whuggy said:
Fantastic insight. Shit where should I send the $10.99?HillsboroDuck said:
The offense is failing.whuggy said:
And how is that working so far?HillsboroDuck said:
The defense's job is to keep points off the bored.whuggy said:HillsboroDuck said:My only complaint with the defense (outside of the absentee pass rush cause recruiting) is the inability to adjust schemes when needed. The scheme works fantastically most of the game - special even. In the situations where you have to get an immediate stop you have to quit bending and sell out for a stop right now. This is in no way the players fault it's 100% on the defensive coaches for not adjusting.
There's no reason why this scheme can't be kept in place but with the ability to adjust when you need to get the ball back with the game on the line. This needs to happen immediately.
Uh, quality teams have a connection on both sides of the ball. We have an offense that is weak and needs as many opportunities to score as the defense can give them. And you say the defensive scheme that we run works fantastically well yet is exactly the wrong scheme given the anemic offense. Our defense should be busting balls to get the ball back to the offense yet we are content to play rubberband and limit our already limited offense. Man I don't get your thinking at all on this one.
The offenses job is to score points.
It's hard.
Usually in fact.
Occam's Razor and shit. -
Shit offense. Shit special teams. Need Kawasaki to run the D instead of Lake. And need a non retard QB.
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If Pete defined OKG according to the attitude and aggressiveness Dave Hoffman embodied, becoming an elite program would be much likelier. James had undersized, try hard white guys, but they were badass. One thing I especially loved about James is that he was color blind.DerekJohnson said:
"Our practices under coach James were so hard that the games felt easy by comparison." - Dave HoffmannTequilla said:
Pressure is real and until you go through those live reps you're going to have to learn to do that ... that's generally true across all aspects of sports.CaptainPJ said:
Tha fuck? Seriously?Tequilla said:not saying that I 100% agree with him as I do agree that pressure is real. That being said, if you know you can do the job and do it repeatedly in practice the odds of doing so when the lights go on increases substantially.
Stick with tldr.
Live fire is a completely different theatre.
Having a tire hanging from the tree in the backyard and a “Specialist” coach Mom and Dad pay for you to fag off with (picture: OR strengmf coach) during High School is great,
Until they aren’t there and your snowflake ass melts.
G’s up ho’s down - same as it ever was
That being said, you don't go to complete shit too often as what I was talking about was much more tied to general mechanics and whatnot.
Henry's miss made a lot of sense to me ... that's pressure coming from speeding up the process and a hook is what happens.
Haener just flat out doesn't see the field that well and forces balls over the middle ... that was something I've seen out of him in practices as well.
