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we've just rejuvenated Oregon football... again

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  • MikeSeaverMikeSeaver Member Posts: 5,800
    dtd said:

    In a vacuum I don't hate the change, but there is zero creativity. One fly sweep the entire year. One.
    You want more fly sweeps? Is that what you actually wrote?

    Fucking FLY SWEEPS???!!11

  • ntxduckntxduck Member Posts: 5,985

    Um that's exactly what it does dumb fuck. It keeps your defense off the field and, when they have to come on, they're more rested. The ability to run without misdirection and 50 other things going on… Just lining up and running the fucking ball and being able to do it successfully even when the defense knows it's coming, is exactly the basis upon which true winning football is built.

    I also think you are underestimating Oregon's defense. There are definitely some weaknesses: Graham being the most pronounced. But unlike the last few years, they are able to get stops when they need them.
    No. Winning football is built on fly sweeps
  • Mosster47Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    ntxduck said:

    2 plays?
    Hanson doesn't sky a snap and CJ doesn't fumble finishing the game. The Ducks are unbeaten and #5 right now.
  • ntxduckntxduck Member Posts: 5,985
    Mosster47 said:

    Hanson doesn't sky a snap and CJ doesn't fumble finishing the game. The Ducks are unbeaten and #5 right now.
    I know. It's one play though, not two.
  • BeerThirtyBeerThirty Member Posts: 2,465
    PurpleJ said:

    I haven't talked to my sister in months and she texts me out of the blue to taunt me. She's married to a jack duck. Fuck me.

    fuck her
  • dtddtd Member Posts: 5,120 Standard Supporter
    @Mosster47 Ducks now 6th in the conference in yards per rush.
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  • dtddtd Member Posts: 5,120 Standard Supporter

    You want more fly sweeps? Is that what you actually wrote?

    Fucking FLY SWEEPS???!!11

    Yes you fucking dipshit. It's called a constraint play. Look it up. This offense badly needs one. But why run more of the play that went for 16 yards against Stanford, that'd be stupid.
  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 25,079 Founders Club
    Rejuvenate. They were down for maybe two years. And historically, last year's 7-5 is a good year to many Quooks. We should have beaten them. 2 of 15. Pathetic!!!
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,838
    edited October 2018
    dtd said:

    Yes you fucking dipshit. It's called a constraint play. Look it up. This offense badly needs one. But why run more of the play that went for 16 yards against Stanford, that'd be stupid.
    It's almost like you don't know what you're fucking talking about.

    For every time that fly sweeps work for 16 yards, they also work for three or 4 yard losses. It also tells your O line and running backs that you don't believe in them. What Mario is doing is imposing a fundamental belief in his players that they can overpower the guys in front of them. And that psychology is very fucking important.

    I used to be a huge dolphins fans surprise surprise. I remember when they drafted Richmond Webb out of Texas A&M. His nickname at A&M was the hammer, because A&M they almost exclusively ran the ball and he was a very big reason they were successful at it. A downfield mauler.

    Fast forward five years with the dolphins, who turned him into a premier left tackle, and while he was a pro bowler at protecting Marino's blind side, he was shit as a run blocker. The whole fucking line was. Why? Because at that time it always seemed to make sense to put the game in Marino's hands. So after what Marino did between 83 and 90, Miami was a past first run afterthought team.

    But as Marino's physical ability began to deteriorate, the line of coaches who tried to make Miami and winner again appropriately wanted to establish the run, and have Marino be a part of the offense… Not the entire offense.

    Nobody could ever fucking do it. Part of that had to do with Marino's attitude about it; and part of it was that they had a team full of probowl pass protectors who could not transition into doing anything to establish the run game.

    Your O line will be what you coach them to be. I'm not saying that you can't have some razzle-dazzle and some transition shit in your play selection. But that kind of shit is like crack, and it seems like the more you do it the more you're going to do it. What Mario is doing with Oregon right now takes a lot of fucking discipline and a lot of ability to tune out people just like you. It's no fun to hand the ball off to a running back and see him get stopped for no gain or pick up only one to 3 yards. But the more you do it, the more successful you are at it, and those carries start to turn into 4 to 6 yard runs per clip late in the third and fourth quarters.

    Establishing a straight at you running game is still a recipe for winning football. When you have that, you control tempo, you keep your defense off the field and rested, and you take away your opponent's will. There is nothing worse than knowing that you can't stop the other team from gouging you with straight off tackle running place. And what it does to play action pass is nothing short of miraculous.
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123

    Need better players, depth, better coaching, way better qb development, way better special teams.

    Try hard 3 star white boys are okay but you can't heavily rely on them
    No question we need all those things. Just saying, the year 5 bullshit was spouted out to protect coaches like Sark and Ty. They needed more time.
  • bananasnblondesbananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,438
    It could be that this is the spark that "rejuvenates" Oregon, but not likely. To me, this was much more like the Sark wins over SC and Stanford. Oregon won because of UWs fuckups. Cristobal didnt all of a sudden become a non-mediocre coach because of this game.
  • ntxduckntxduck Member Posts: 5,985

    It could be that this is the spark that "rejuvenates" Oregon, but not likely. To me, this was much more like the Sark wins over SC and Stanford. Oregon won because of UWs fuckups. Cristobal didnt all of a sudden become a non-mediocre coach because of this game.

    LOL. jesus fucking christ
  • Mosster47Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246

    It could be that this is the spark that "rejuvenates" Oregon, but not likely. To me, this was much more like the Sark wins over SC and Stanford. Oregon won because of UWs fuckups. Cristobal didnt all of a sudden become a non-mediocre coach because of this game.

    DPOTD.
  • PetermanPeterman Member Posts: 675
    ntxduck said:

    LOL. jesus fucking christ
    So you think an overtime win at home coming off a bye solidifies Cristibal as a great coach?
  • bananasnblondesbananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,438
    Peterman said:

    So you think an overtime win at home coming off a bye solidifies Cristibal as a great coach?
    This. The quooks are ready to give Cristobal a lifetime extension because UW missed a field goal. I say do it.
  • Mosster47Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    Peterman said:

    So you think an overtime win at home coming off a bye solidifies Cristibal as a great coach?
    If you have a great coach his program is rolling by year five. That's four full recruiting classes and one salvaged one. All the upperclass players are fully into the culture, the S&C program, etc.

    That just got pushed around by year one of a guy who is playing with the recruits of a massively loser coach who was a lazy recruiter and two salvaged recruiting classes.

    No one has said Mario is great. We are just damn sure Peterman isnt.
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    Just to be clear, Peterman the poaster is terrible, Peterman the coach is good but seems to get dragged down by his assistants and by being too stubborn.
  • ntxduckntxduck Member Posts: 5,985
    Peterman said:

    So you think an overtime win at home coming off a bye solidifies Cristibal as a great coach?
    Didn't say that, but Sark beat USC with a backup QB who was so bad he transferred to Richmond (where he didn't even start there) after that game. Same with Sark beating Stanford...he beat backup Josh Nunes.

    Saying Oregon won because of UWs fuckups is just hilarious denial. I saw an extremely evenly matched game, between 2 good but not great teams. Almost every fuckup UW fans have been bitching about on here also apply to Oregon (missed FG, poor special teams, poor red zone playcalling...)

    Oregon will lose a couple more games this year, and UW will probably lose once more as well. But if I'm a Washington fan, I'm wondering why Cristobal in year 1 is pretty much dead even with CP in year 5.

  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    I think Peterman could get to the title game if he was at Oregon and had the marketing juggernaut that the Oregon brand is behind him, as long as he had some ace recruiters and quality assistants. UW needs to become edgier to compete with UO going forward, but I'm not sure that's possible. The recruits dig the helmets and uniforms.
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