Donald Trump opinion piece in USA today
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Lol really? Obamacare was harmful to seniors. Ok pookie. Point me to the links that support that claim.SFGbob said:Another of Trump's supposed "lies" according to Hondo was his claim that Obamacare harms seniors.
Simple Google search would have shown that's a statement of fact. -
If you cherry pick some data points, yes premiums are going down. If you look at reality and the market overall. You are wrong. Premiums are not going down.HoustonHusky said:
What lies?2001400ex said:
I see you can't respond about the lies either.HoustonHusky said:HondoFS having another FINE day in this thread...

Or, in honor of Kavanaugh's high-school friend, should we rename him HondoFFFFFFS?
In your own stupid link over half the states reporting have premiums going down, the most in at least 4 years. You are either a horrible liar or a really dumb fucker for not realizing that:
https://www.kff.org/private-insurance/issue-brief/tracking-2019-premium-changes-on-aca-exchanges/?utm_campaign=KFF-2018-The-Latest&utm_source=hs_email&utm_medium=email&utm_content=63624838&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-_hm8G25mdRMc4hpcoOXypLwh8stFTi2nSMxl8mUts9ME_4sz-cwz8S41chmLiHpn9cSjMFO5by2TDgCqQ0LUF5y6n-Rw&_hsmi=63624838
Also realize that the ones that haven't reported yet are probably because the insurance companies arent requesting increases, so don't be shocked if that % of states with premiums decreasing goes even higher.
What's the other HondoFFFFFFS farce that you think is a "lie"? Democrats loved Chavez and Venezuela? Why would anyone think that...
https://dailycaller.com/2016/06/26/meet-hugo-chavezs-pals-in-congress-and-hollywood/




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https://google.com/search?q=Obama+care+harms+seniors&rlz=1C1GGRV_enUS817US818&oq=Obama+care+harms+seniors&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i64.9760j1j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-82001400ex said:
Lol really? Obamacare was harmful to seniors. Ok pookie. Point me to the links that support that claim.SFGbob said:Another of Trump's supposed "lies" according to Hondo was his claim that Obamacare harms seniors.
Simple Google search would have shown that's a statement of fact. -
This is the very first link.SFGbob said:
https://google.com/search?q=Obama+care+harms+seniors&rlz=1C1GGRV_enUS817US818&oq=Obama+care+harms+seniors&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i64.9760j1j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-82001400ex said:
Lol really? Obamacare was harmful to seniors. Ok pookie. Point me to the links that support that claim.SFGbob said:Another of Trump's supposed "lies" according to Hondo was his claim that Obamacare harms seniors.
Simple Google search would have shown that's a statement of fact.
MEDICARE
The cuts to Medicare—about $700 billion between 2013 and 2022—are actually decreases in the spending rate for this program. According to the Congressional Budget Office, the cuts will be felt in hospital services, Medicare Advantage plans, skilled nursing services, home health services and others.
Retirees with traditional Medicare Parts A and B should feel little change in their coverage. For example, there was a small increase in the premiums from 2012 to 2013; these increases will remain constant until 2017. -
The second link:
Obamacare mandates $716 billion in Medicare payment reductions from 2013 to 2022.[1] However, contrary to the way they are often portrayed, these cuts are not aimed at specific instances of waste, fraud, and abuse. Instead, they are across-the-board changes in Medicare payment formulas for a variety of Medicare providers, including hospitals, nursing homes, home health agencies, and hospice agencies.
Point still stands. A simply Google search, unless you're Hondo the fucking moron, will reveal how Obamacare harms seniors. -
Yes those are cuts to Medicare rates to the provider. Now make the connection to how that harms seniors.SFGbob said:The second link:
Obamacare mandates $716 billion in Medicare payment reductions from 2013 to 2022.[1] However, contrary to the way they are often portrayed, these cuts are not aimed at specific instances of waste, fraud, and abuse. Instead, they are across-the-board changes in Medicare payment formulas for a variety of Medicare providers, including hospitals, nursing homes, home health agencies, and hospice agencies.
Point still stands. A simply Google search, unless you're Hondo the fucking moron, will reveal how Obamacare harms seniors. -
Google it Kunt.2001400ex said:
Yes those are cuts to Medicare rates to the provider. Now make the connection to how that harms seniors.SFGbob said:The second link:
Obamacare mandates $716 billion in Medicare payment reductions from 2013 to 2022.[1] However, contrary to the way they are often portrayed, these cuts are not aimed at specific instances of waste, fraud, and abuse. Instead, they are across-the-board changes in Medicare payment formulas for a variety of Medicare providers, including hospitals, nursing homes, home health agencies, and hospice agencies.
Point still stands. A simply Google search, unless you're Hondo the fucking moron, will reveal how Obamacare harms seniors. -
Didn't think you had an answer. It's almost like you care how Obamacare actually followed conservative philosophy. It's the same model you project that you want due entitlement reform. You know where you cut money but still have the same or better outcomes.SFGbob said:
Google it Kunt.2001400ex said:
Yes those are cuts to Medicare rates to the provider. Now make the connection to how that harms seniors.SFGbob said:The second link:
Obamacare mandates $716 billion in Medicare payment reductions from 2013 to 2022.[1] However, contrary to the way they are often portrayed, these cuts are not aimed at specific instances of waste, fraud, and abuse. Instead, they are across-the-board changes in Medicare payment formulas for a variety of Medicare providers, including hospitals, nursing homes, home health agencies, and hospice agencies.
Point still stands. A simply Google search, unless you're Hondo the fucking moron, will reveal how Obamacare harms seniors. -
Your own fucking link calls you a liar. Lying HondoFFFFFFs...2001400ex said:
If you cherry pick some data points, yes premiums are going down. If you look at reality and the market overall. You are wrong. Premiums are not going down.HoustonHusky said:
What lies?2001400ex said:
I see you can't respond about the lies either.HoustonHusky said:HondoFS having another FINE day in this thread...

Or, in honor of Kavanaugh's high-school friend, should we rename him HondoFFFFFFS?
In your own stupid link over half the states reporting have premiums going down, the most in at least 4 years. You are either a horrible liar or a really dumb fucker for not realizing that:
https://www.kff.org/private-insurance/issue-brief/tracking-2019-premium-changes-on-aca-exchanges/?utm_campaign=KFF-2018-The-Latest&utm_source=hs_email&utm_medium=email&utm_content=63624838&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-_hm8G25mdRMc4hpcoOXypLwh8stFTi2nSMxl8mUts9ME_4sz-cwz8S41chmLiHpn9cSjMFO5by2TDgCqQ0LUF5y6n-Rw&_hsmi=63624838
Also realize that the ones that haven't reported yet are probably because the insurance companies arent requesting increases, so don't be shocked if that % of states with premiums decreasing goes even higher.
What's the other HondoFFFFFFS farce that you think is a "lie"? Democrats loved Chavez and Venezuela? Why would anyone think that...
https://dailycaller.com/2016/06/26/meet-hugo-chavezs-pals-in-congress-and-hollywood/




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If you cherry pick data. I agree.HoustonHusky said:
Your own fucking link calls you a liar. Lying HondoFFFFFFs...2001400ex said:
If you cherry pick some data points, yes premiums are going down. If you look at reality and the market overall. You are wrong. Premiums are not going down.HoustonHusky said:
What lies?2001400ex said:
I see you can't respond about the lies either.HoustonHusky said:HondoFS having another FINE day in this thread...

Or, in honor of Kavanaugh's high-school friend, should we rename him HondoFFFFFFS?
In your own stupid link over half the states reporting have premiums going down, the most in at least 4 years. You are either a horrible liar or a really dumb fucker for not realizing that:
https://www.kff.org/private-insurance/issue-brief/tracking-2019-premium-changes-on-aca-exchanges/?utm_campaign=KFF-2018-The-Latest&utm_source=hs_email&utm_medium=email&utm_content=63624838&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-_hm8G25mdRMc4hpcoOXypLwh8stFTi2nSMxl8mUts9ME_4sz-cwz8S41chmLiHpn9cSjMFO5by2TDgCqQ0LUF5y6n-Rw&_hsmi=63624838
Also realize that the ones that haven't reported yet are probably because the insurance companies arent requesting increases, so don't be shocked if that % of states with premiums decreasing goes even higher.
What's the other HondoFFFFFFS farce that you think is a "lie"? Democrats loved Chavez and Venezuela? Why would anyone think that...
https://dailycaller.com/2016/06/26/meet-hugo-chavezs-pals-in-congress-and-hollywood/




HondoFFFFFFS...


