So when did it become forbidden to question the veracity of someone's story?
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Come on, that's more than a hole. When you couple the fact that no one can recall being at the party she describes along with all of here oh so convenient memory loss, regarding any details that would allow anyone to refute her claims you've got a woman who should be mocked for trotting out this worthless charge in the first place.
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I got my ass handed to me when I was in sixth grade right before a baseball practice (coaches hadn't arrived yet). I remember getting there (I walked) and I remember skipping practice to walk home so my mom could take me to the emergency room for the welt on the side of my head. I remember his parents coming over to my house so they could see what their son had done and fork over the money for the emergency room visit. That was 39 years ago. I'm going to venture out there and say it was somewhere close to the trauma Ford says she experienced because this kid who was a nearly a foot taller than me at the time was not stopping.creepycoug said:
There are holes there, but candidly the only thing that I have focused on is the timing. If it didn't matter all these years, leave it alone.SFGbob said:Why is it that we supposedly can't question Ford's story? Everyone keeps talking about how "credible" her story is but when I hear a story where you can't remember the date, or the time or how you got to the party or how you left and where everyone you name as being at the party denies any knowledge of the party the last fucking word I think about is "credible." To me that story sounds like fucking bullshit.
That said, I can imagine someone being off on some details, or at least not wanting to commit to them in a high stakes setting like this, and still remember the evening's main event. I was at plenty of parties where 'stuff' I'll never forget happened but how I got there, who I went and left with, the precise date and time, etc. are gone to history. I'm not trying to defend her but that part of it doesn't strike me as automatically fishy as it seems to with other people. Like, if I got my ass kicked at a party 36 years ago, I'd remember that and I'd remember who did it, and I'd probably remember where it happened and what caused it. The rest? Date, time, how I got there, how I left, etc.? I can see forgetting that shit.
But she's a PhD and hasn't lived her life in dysfunction from all accounts, so I am suspicious about how "traumatic" it was, or at least how traumatic it continued to be for her throughout her life, and of course the timing. So just like you with Treyvon, there is plenty of circumstantial evidence to suggest Kavy was a bit of a self-entitled prick who could become aggressive when sauced (who among us doesn't know a dozen people like that) and could easily be the type of teen-aged boy who might push too far with a co-ed and then wake up the next day and think, "fuck. I hope she doesn't make a big deal out of this."
I just don't care. It would have been chintresting if he'd tried the old American approach of admission, contrition and axing forgiveness. Lord knows the American people tend to forgive those who admit wrong-doing. Hard to say in today's political climate.
As a side note- I also remember getting the phone call seven years later that in his freshmen year of college he swallowed a shotgun. Kid was messed up. -
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Noc what I think.SFGbob said:
I don't give a shit. Her story isn't credible and the fact that some weak kneed Republicans got upset with Trump doesn't make her story credible.2001400ex said:
Republican senators agree with the msm.SFGbob said:The MSM is now in high dudgeon because Trump "mocked" Ford's story. Why shouldn't her story be mocked? It makes no fucking sense and an even better question, why the fuck isn't the MSM interested in mocking her story? If the parties were reversed you'd have the MSM and the pop culture outlets savaging her story.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/10/03/politics/jeff-flake-donald-trump-christine-blasey-ford/index.html -
Similar story - I had a paper route and a big tuff from the hood started shaking me down daily. I remember the look on his face when his dad had to sit in the living room of my dad the Justice of the Peace and beg forgiveness. Then my brother beat the shit out of himgeorgiaduck said:
I got my ass handed to me when I was in sixth grade right before a baseball practice (coaches hadn't arrived yet). I remember getting there (I walked) and I remember skipping practice to walk home so my mom could take me to the emergency room for the welt on the side of my head. I remember his parents coming over to my house so they could see what their son had done and fork over the money for the emergency room visit. That was 39 years ago. I'm going to venture out there and say it was somewhere close to the trauma Ford says she experienced because this kid who was a nearly a foot taller than me at the time was not stopping.creepycoug said:
There are holes there, but candidly the only thing that I have focused on is the timing. If it didn't matter all these years, leave it alone.SFGbob said:Why is it that we supposedly can't question Ford's story? Everyone keeps talking about how "credible" her story is but when I hear a story where you can't remember the date, or the time or how you got to the party or how you left and where everyone you name as being at the party denies any knowledge of the party the last fucking word I think about is "credible." To me that story sounds like fucking bullshit.
That said, I can imagine someone being off on some details, or at least not wanting to commit to them in a high stakes setting like this, and still remember the evening's main event. I was at plenty of parties where 'stuff' I'll never forget happened but how I got there, who I went and left with, the precise date and time, etc. are gone to history. I'm not trying to defend her but that part of it doesn't strike me as automatically fishy as it seems to with other people. Like, if I got my ass kicked at a party 36 years ago, I'd remember that and I'd remember who did it, and I'd probably remember where it happened and what caused it. The rest? Date, time, how I got there, how I left, etc.? I can see forgetting that shit.
But she's a PhD and hasn't lived her life in dysfunction from all accounts, so I am suspicious about how "traumatic" it was, or at least how traumatic it continued to be for her throughout her life, and of course the timing. So just like you with Treyvon, there is plenty of circumstantial evidence to suggest Kavy was a bit of a self-entitled prick who could become aggressive when sauced (who among us doesn't know a dozen people like that) and could easily be the type of teen-aged boy who might push too far with a co-ed and then wake up the next day and think, "fuck. I hope she doesn't make a big deal out of this."
I just don't care. It would have been chintresting if he'd tried the old American approach of admission, contrition and axing forgiveness. Lord knows the American people tend to forgive those who admit wrong-doing. Hard to say in today's political climate.
As a side note- I also remember getting the phone call seven years later that in his freshmen year of college he swallowed a shotgun. Kid was messed up.
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Don't harass people old man and you won't have to worry about harassment charges.RaceBannon said:She's a lying cunt
REAL talk
I just spent 5 years working with a young woman and training her in the ways of project management. She failed and we fired her. First words out of her mouth were harassment
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You can't handle the proof!!!!!!!!!!!!!RaceBannon said:She's a lying cunt
REAL talk
I just spent 5 years working with a young woman and training her in the ways of project management. She failed and we fired her. First words out of her mouth were harassment
I don't believe accusers. Get me some fucking proof
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Fuck so Race and Georgia fuck remember their brother beating the shit out of someone and getting their ass kicked. That settles it, she's a liar.
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Fixed some pertinent details.RaceBannon said:
Similar story - I had a paper route and a big tuff white Hispanic with questionable paperwork from the hood started shaking me down daily. I remember the look on his face when his dad had to sit in the living room of one of my my dads the Justice of the Peace and beg forgiveness. Then my brother beat the shit out of himgeorgiaduck said:
I got my ass handed to me when I was in sixth grade right before a baseball practice (coaches hadn't arrived yet). I remember getting there (I walked) and I remember skipping practice to walk home so my mom could take me to the emergency room for the welt on the side of my head. I remember his parents coming over to my house so they could see what their son had done and fork over the money for the emergency room visit. That was 39 years ago. I'm going to venture out there and say it was somewhere close to the trauma Ford says she experienced because this kid who was a nearly a foot taller than me at the time was not stopping.creepycoug said:
There are holes there, but candidly the only thing that I have focused on is the timing. If it didn't matter all these years, leave it alone.SFGbob said:Why is it that we supposedly can't question Ford's story? Everyone keeps talking about how "credible" her story is but when I hear a story where you can't remember the date, or the time or how you got to the party or how you left and where everyone you name as being at the party denies any knowledge of the party the last fucking word I think about is "credible." To me that story sounds like fucking bullshit.
That said, I can imagine someone being off on some details, or at least not wanting to commit to them in a high stakes setting like this, and still remember the evening's main event. I was at plenty of parties where 'stuff' I'll never forget happened but how I got there, who I went and left with, the precise date and time, etc. are gone to history. I'm not trying to defend her but that part of it doesn't strike me as automatically fishy as it seems to with other people. Like, if I got my ass kicked at a party 36 years ago, I'd remember that and I'd remember who did it, and I'd probably remember where it happened and what caused it. The rest? Date, time, how I got there, how I left, etc.? I can see forgetting that shit.
But she's a PhD and hasn't lived her life in dysfunction from all accounts, so I am suspicious about how "traumatic" it was, or at least how traumatic it continued to be for her throughout her life, and of course the timing. So just like you with Treyvon, there is plenty of circumstantial evidence to suggest Kavy was a bit of a self-entitled prick who could become aggressive when sauced (who among us doesn't know a dozen people like that) and could easily be the type of teen-aged boy who might push too far with a co-ed and then wake up the next day and think, "fuck. I hope she doesn't make a big deal out of this."
I just don't care. It would have been chintresting if he'd tried the old American approach of admission, contrition and axing forgiveness. Lord knows the American people tend to forgive those who admit wrong-doing. Hard to say in today's political climate.
As a side note- I also remember getting the phone call seven years later that in his freshmen year of college he swallowed a shotgun. Kid was messed up.
As if it happened yesterday
Also, my image of you is now shattered. -
Kunt logic, is there anything it can't do?2001400ex said:
Don't harass people old man and you won't have to worry about harassment charges.RaceBannon said:She's a lying cunt
REAL talk
I just spent 5 years working with a young woman and training her in the ways of project management. She failed and we fired her. First words out of her mouth were harassment
I don't believe accusers. Get me some fucking proof -
Stop fucking goats2001400ex said:Fuck so Race and Georgia fuck remember their brother beating the shit out of someone and getting their ass kicked. That settles it, she's a liar.
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Sick burn bro.RaceBannon said:
Stop fucking goats2001400ex said:Fuck so Race and Georgia fuck remember their brother beating the shit out of someone and getting their ass kicked. That settles it, she's a liar.
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Its only your reputation. Who cares?
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He says the goats are of age and its consensual. But then why the tall boots and Velcro gloves.....RaceBannon said:Its only your reputation. Who cares?
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You said Republican and then cite Jeff Flake?2001400ex said:
Republican senators agree with the msm.SFGbob said:The MSM is now in high dudgeon because Trump "mocked" Ford's story. Why shouldn't her story be mocked? It makes no fucking sense and an even better question, why the fuck isn't the MSM interested in mocking her story? If the parties were reversed you'd have the MSM and the pop culture outlets savaging her story.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/10/03/politics/jeff-flake-donald-trump-christine-blasey-ford/index.html
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I don't want to go to the mat on this one, because it's not that important. I'm just departing from the narrative a little and saying that, yeah, it's no prima facie evidence to me that it's all cooked up that she can't remember some collateral things and may have been mistake about others.georgiaduck said:
I got my ass handed to me when I was in sixth grade right before a baseball practice (coaches hadn't arrived yet). I remember getting there (I walked) and I remember skipping practice to walk home so my mom could take me to the emergency room for the welt on the side of my head. I remember his parents coming over to my house so they could see what their son had done and fork over the money for the emergency room visit. That was 39 years ago. I'm going to venture out there and say it was somewhere close to the trauma Ford says she experienced because this kid who was a nearly a foot taller than me at the time was not stopping.creepycoug said:
There are holes there, but candidly the only thing that I have focused on is the timing. If it didn't matter all these years, leave it alone.SFGbob said:Why is it that we supposedly can't question Ford's story? Everyone keeps talking about how "credible" her story is but when I hear a story where you can't remember the date, or the time or how you got to the party or how you left and where everyone you name as being at the party denies any knowledge of the party the last fucking word I think about is "credible." To me that story sounds like fucking bullshit.
That said, I can imagine someone being off on some details, or at least not wanting to commit to them in a high stakes setting like this, and still remember the evening's main event. I was at plenty of parties where 'stuff' I'll never forget happened but how I got there, who I went and left with, the precise date and time, etc. are gone to history. I'm not trying to defend her but that part of it doesn't strike me as automatically fishy as it seems to with other people. Like, if I got my ass kicked at a party 36 years ago, I'd remember that and I'd remember who did it, and I'd probably remember where it happened and what caused it. The rest? Date, time, how I got there, how I left, etc.? I can see forgetting that shit.
But she's a PhD and hasn't lived her life in dysfunction from all accounts, so I am suspicious about how "traumatic" it was, or at least how traumatic it continued to be for her throughout her life, and of course the timing. So just like you with Treyvon, there is plenty of circumstantial evidence to suggest Kavy was a bit of a self-entitled prick who could become aggressive when sauced (who among us doesn't know a dozen people like that) and could easily be the type of teen-aged boy who might push too far with a co-ed and then wake up the next day and think, "fuck. I hope she doesn't make a big deal out of this."
I just don't care. It would have been chintresting if he'd tried the old American approach of admission, contrition and axing forgiveness. Lord knows the American people tend to forgive those who admit wrong-doing. Hard to say in today's political climate.
As a side note- I also remember getting the phone call seven years later that in his freshmen year of college he swallowed a shotgun. Kid was messed up.
Sounds like you didn't get your ass kicked at a raucous party. If you had, would you have necessarily remembered everyone who was there? Would you have remembered the next game you played after that practice? The score?
The things you said you remembered are things I would expect I would remember too.
One of the things that ls classmates who deal with juries tell me, again and again, is that one of their greatest fears is that their fate ever be decided by a jury trial. In those conversations, they never fail to mention how many studies have been commissioned by the bar that show just how shitty people's memories are, and how easily they are influenced and manipulated by suggestion and by time. -
I don't believe her because I know how tuff women are. I know of no women who would be so affected by such a minor incident. I would rate her testimony a WTF if it wasn't for broken infrastructure preventing me from doing so.
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Only losers are still paying attention to this bullshit.
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oh reeeeeeallllyyyyyyyyyyyyy?phineas said:Only losers are still paying attention to this bullshit.
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Velcro gloves are used for sheep. You keep getting more fucktarded.Sledog said:
He says the goats are of age and its consensual. But then why the tall boots and Velcro gloves.....RaceBannon said:Its only your reputation. Who cares?
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He said they worked on goats. I'm no expert but you're speaking from experience.2001400ex said:
Velcro gloves are used for sheep. You keep getting more fucktarded.Sledog said:
He says the goats are of age and its consensual. But then why the tall boots and Velcro gloves.....RaceBannon said:Its only your reputation. Who cares?
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THIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSS!SarkFanSixtyNine said:I don't believe her because I know how tuff women are. I know of no women who would be so affected by such a minor incident. I would rate her testimony a WTF if it wasn't for broken infrastructure preventing me from doing so.
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TUFF!!!!TurdBuffer said:
THIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSS!SarkFanSixtyNine said:I don't believe her because I know how tuff women are. I know of no women who would be so affected by such a minor incident. I would rate her testimony a WTF if it wasn't for broken infrastructure preventing me from doing so.
Girl TUFF!!! -
How much shitty Legal advice has Blasey-Ford been given?creepycoug said:
TUFF!!!!TurdBuffer said:
THIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSS!SarkFanSixtyNine said:I don't believe her because I know how tuff women are. I know of no women who would be so affected by such a minor incident. I would rate her testimony a WTF if it wasn't for broken infrastructure preventing me from doing so.
Girl TUFF!!!
"Say you're afraid of flying." Lie.
"Say you only drank one beer" (Because more than one affects memory in a young girl). Horseshit.
"Say your second front door was a claustrophobia antidote" (When it was to a leased office or AirBNB space). Total Diaper Gravy.
Blasey-Ford's worst adversary is her unbelievable, melodramatic, embellishing, falsely-attributing self. -
I'm less concerned about how shitty her memory was 35 years ago than how shitty her memory is of the events of the last 3 months.
Doesn't know who is paying her attorneys.
Doesn't know who paid for her polygraph.
Can't remember when her polygraph occurred.
Can't remember if her polygraph was recorded.
Can't remember what she was asked for the polygraph.
Can't remember who she provided her therapy notes to.
Can't remember how she contacted the Washington Post.
She'd struggle to remember what she had for breakfast this morning if you asked her. Swaye is more credible than this chick.
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I'm less concerned about her memory. And more concerned about Kavanaugh's lies.DHD said:I'm less concerned about how shitty her memory was 35 years ago than how shitty her memory is of the events of the last 3 months.
Doesn't know who is paying her attorneys.
Doesn't know who paid for her polygraph.
Can't remember when her polygraph occurred.
Can't remember if her polygraph was recorded.
Can't remember what she was asked for the polygraph.
Can't remember who she provided her therapy notes to.
Can't remember how she contacted the Washington Post.
She'd struggle to remember what she had for breakfast this morning if you asked her. Swaye is more credible than this chick.
It's funny watching y'all pressing so hard to bash her while you miss the real issue. -
And what is that?2001400ex said:
I'm less concerned about her memory. And more concerned about Kavanaugh's lies.DHD said:I'm less concerned about how shitty her memory was 35 years ago than how shitty her memory is of the events of the last 3 months.
Doesn't know who is paying her attorneys.
Doesn't know who paid for her polygraph.
Can't remember when her polygraph occurred.
Can't remember if her polygraph was recorded.
Can't remember what she was asked for the polygraph.
Can't remember who she provided her therapy notes to.
Can't remember how she contacted the Washington Post.
She'd struggle to remember what she had for breakfast this morning if you asked her. Swaye is more credible than this chick.
It's funny watching y'all pressing so hard to bash her while you miss the real issue. -
What I just said.... Did you not read it? His lies.....PurpleThrobber said:
And what is that?2001400ex said:
I'm less concerned about her memory. And more concerned about Kavanaugh's lies.DHD said:I'm less concerned about how shitty her memory was 35 years ago than how shitty her memory is of the events of the last 3 months.
Doesn't know who is paying her attorneys.
Doesn't know who paid for her polygraph.
Can't remember when her polygraph occurred.
Can't remember if her polygraph was recorded.
Can't remember what she was asked for the polygraph.
Can't remember who she provided her therapy notes to.
Can't remember how she contacted the Washington Post.
She'd struggle to remember what she had for breakfast this morning if you asked her. Swaye is more credible than this chick.
It's funny watching y'all pressing so hard to bash her while you miss the real issue. -
You mean the shit about "Devil's Triangle" being a drinking game and dancing around the Renate Alumnae stuff?2001400ex said:
What I just said.... Did you not read it? His lies.....PurpleThrobber said:
And what is that?2001400ex said:
I'm less concerned about her memory. And more concerned about Kavanaugh's lies.DHD said:I'm less concerned about how shitty her memory was 35 years ago than how shitty her memory is of the events of the last 3 months.
Doesn't know who is paying her attorneys.
Doesn't know who paid for her polygraph.
Can't remember when her polygraph occurred.
Can't remember if her polygraph was recorded.
Can't remember what she was asked for the polygraph.
Can't remember who she provided her therapy notes to.
Can't remember how she contacted the Washington Post.
She'd struggle to remember what she had for breakfast this morning if you asked her. Swaye is more credible than this chick.
It's funny watching y'all pressing so hard to bash her while you miss the real issue.
Hell, no that doesn't bother me. Are you fucking kidding? That whole line of questioning was fucking stupid.
If you can't see the difference between his responses to juvenile/college behavior and her accusation of perhaps the 2nd most serious crime after murder, there's not fucking much I can do for you.
Again - why the left hates winning. They ride the moral equivalence horse to the extreme.
Kav would have been better taking the stance of 'yeah - I partied like the vast majority of high school and college students' as the esteemed @dflea pointed out. But is that a deal-killer? Hell no.
They'd have been far better to go after his involvement with Kenneth Starr's investigation and picked up some slick Willie support for those who thought that was a witchhunt too.
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We're bashing goat sex here now?Sledog said:
He says the goats are of age and its consensual. But then why the tall boots and Velcro gloves.....RaceBannon said:Its only your reputation. Who cares?
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How can goatfuckers expect justice without one on the Supreme Court?
